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Post Post #7988 (isolation #0) » Sun May 03, 2020 9:40 am

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If you ask, WotC will mail a bunch of starter decks to a unit of soldiers, free if charge. I'm not sure if you need to be stationed abroad to qualify, or whether you are stationed abroad, but it's something you could look into if that ever lines up. It's a special support the troops thing they do. (The complexity of those decks are generally beginner level)
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Post Post #7998 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:42 am

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My LGS has reopened, but, uh, I think it'd be reckless of me to go.
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Post Post #8006 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:36 am

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I like the colors in Maritime Guard.
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Post Post #8051 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:08 am

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In post 8049, Thestatusquo wrote:
I think we have some crossover here, so I just wanted to throw this out here in case anyone is interested.
That looks pretty cool
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Post Post #8056 (isolation #4) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:06 am

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I am a "take the Burst Lightning" person on a very very deep level
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Post Post #8061 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:40 am

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I should probably be going to a magic focused forum to ask but

Is the new RW cathartic reunion gonna justify a color change for modern dredge? Probably right?
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Post Post #8064 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:08 am

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We don't loot no more we RUMMAGE
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Post Post #8065 (isolation #7) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:09 am

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Unless you try a burning inquiry list but don't try a burning inquiry list
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Post Post #8067 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:23 am

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When I do hallowed one dredge as a thought experiment in my mind the deck isn't as good as dredge
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Post Post #8069 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:47 am

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I think it could become the thing to do with the right printings
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Post Post #8071 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:19 am

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It's similar to ponder and preordain being banned in higher power formats and allowed in lower power formats. Hand fixer effects are stronger in more powerful formats.

Shriekhorn+faithless looting+5 lands was an easy keep even though it doesn't actually enable anything on its own because half the power was being an amazing hand fixer card, whether you were playing a graveyard deck or not.

I kind of wish they would ban payoffs instead of hand fixers because I think hand fixers are fun (when they cost mana I don't know that we need Once Upon a Time to be a thing)
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Post Post #8073 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:45 am

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Idk anything about historic but I believe you.
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Post Post #8075 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:54 am

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When I think about tapping a land to put a +1/+1 counter and being allowed to do it most turns that seems exciting, but when I think about playing a wastes that says "your instants and sorceries have kicker(1): put a +1/+1 counter on target creature" then my mind instead says that's not good enough. The shimmering grotto mama filter is not much better than nothing, lands that require you to go down aana to get the correct color generally haven't performed well.

I don't expect it to be playable but I might be wrong.
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Post Post #8076 (isolation #13) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:57 am

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It's a shame they couldn't make it "activate this ability only outside of combat when the stack is empty" so that it could be used with instants better. But there's the cardinal rule against acknowledging the stack exists on a card.
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Post Post #8077 (isolation #14) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:01 am

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I kiA deck manlands with cheap activations makes it a lot more attractive since it erodes the tension between having creatures and having instants and sorceries both to make the card good. And some manlands are kind of unfair if you augment them and they keep ducking sorcery speed removal.
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Post Post #8079 (isolation #15) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:01 am

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It's way too low power for anything but standard so I'm hoping standard has one I don't know of or one gets printed into the format.

If you just removed your opponent's biggest creature in an aggressive deck how likely are you to need the +1/+1 to be favorable against blocks D:
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Post Post #8081 (isolation #16) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:10 am

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Dropping a mana for the shimmering grotto ability isn't very aggressive. This might actually be at its best in monocolor aggro so that you don't have to use the second ability at all.
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Post Post #8083 (isolation #17) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:36 am

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Yes, a colorless land can be fine in 2 color aggro as well. The fewer the colors the better is the point.

I actually expect monocolor decker to play slightly more instants and sorceries absent incentives is what I was thinking about, like the red stuff. I didn't think about it hard enough because when monoblie plays counter spells those don't work so it's more specifically just mono red. Maybe monoblack with more available instants and sorceries than usual.

You don't have to play boulder rush at sorcery speed! The play pattern can be attack with two goblin tokens, wait to see which one gets blocked, boulder rush the blocked one to make a trade (assuming trading is preferred on the board) go to second main phase, put a plus one counter on the other goblin.

If you have just one goblin tokens against a 4/4 you do have to pump and pump and make your opponent say "oh well ok I won't block then" but you haven't tied down the boulder rush at all, that's only the land getting tied down.
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Post Post #8086 (isolation #18) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:49 am

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If your opponent has lots of removal you'll wish you had the faceless haven since it increases the number of questions your opponent has to answer. Manlands have always been a huge deal for that reason
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Post Post #8088 (isolation #19) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:01 am

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Paying one mana for one power doesn't really help you win by turn six either.
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Post Post #8089 (isolation #20) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:05 am

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I guess it can a smidge if you would have left the mana unspent.

I just doubt the double or nothing is worth it overall I guess
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Post Post #8091 (isolation #21) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:11 am

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Nah. Midrange decks that accidentally draw the removal half of their deck are control decks.
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Post Post #8093 (isolation #22) » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:52 am

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I guess it's hard to draw only the "removal" part of your deck when bonecrisher giant is a silly ubiquitous magic card
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Post Post #8101 (isolation #23) » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:47 pm

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is there a way to go infinite with twincasting a twincast in standard right now? cause there'd be a lot of 3rd cards for it now.
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Post Post #8103 (isolation #24) » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:58 pm

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Post Post #8111 (isolation #25) » Tue May 04, 2021 10:08 am

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lol
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Post Post #8115 (isolation #26) » Thu May 13, 2021 7:37 am

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No more pro player stipends or salaries. No more pro play. Period
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Post Post #8118 (isolation #27) » Thu May 13, 2021 10:05 am

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I don't follow you on Twitter but hear me out I don't follow anyone on Twitter
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Post Post #8132 (isolation #28) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:06 am

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If it's for a casual experience I think I would want to have the winning line described but not get a spoiler on what all cards are in so that I get to be like "man that creature is annoying me oh cool this deck has chainers edicts in it"
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Post Post #8138 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:32 pm

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I think it's cool how older magic cards reference cards that happen much, much later. Time spiral has to be the coolest block.
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Post Post #8151 (isolation #30) » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:00 am

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i'm gonna attempt a prediction

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Destroy target creature or planeswalker without nightbound. It is now night"
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Post Post #8152 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:01 am

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rare
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Post Post #8161 (isolation #32) » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:52 am

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maybe 1B sorcery I'm not necessarily good at this
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Post Post #8165 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:56 pm

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In post 8162, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 8161, Isis wrote:maybe 1B sorcery I'm not necessarily good at this
I'm not sure if it's a matter of good or bad, lol?

We're just navel gazing about what might exist and what we think fair prices for cards are. I'm not sure anyone can be "good" at this, or if it matters. I think the card design is cool, at least, so I'm kind of approaching it from a "if I was designing this card, what would I want to do to balance it?"
I can be objectively wrong in predicting the WotC design team's future behavior, but you're right that it is way too silly a skill to be caring about.
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Post Post #8173 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:44 am

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The secret is to play esper
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Post Post #8174 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:40 am

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Mfw the set has no duals at un/common :(
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Post Post #8176 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:04 pm

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I've been daydreaming about an anti-Rest in Peace card that dredge can run that is better than fragmentize (new dredge does mana for fragmentize better than nature's claim now imo)

The new curse of silence is such an answer to prayer. It's so perfect. Current modern dredge doesn't have enough turn one plays after the faithless looting ban. It's easy to get overwhelming advantage before land 4. And even when they pay four for rest in peace, you get to dredge 5 one last time!!!
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Post Post #8180 (isolation #37) » Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:20 am

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I went 3-1 with black white in innistrad sealed... I think draft will be better.

Bunch of people in the store talked about flesh and blood having more organized play support than mtg now which made me hrm.
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Post Post #8192 (isolation #38) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:37 pm

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It is, I don't see how that's in tension with her post
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Post Post #8194 (isolation #39) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:38 pm

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They're really deep colors, you're probably supposed to move in even if they're visibly moderately cut
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Post Post #8195 (isolation #40) » Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:39 pm

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Yeah Tru tru
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Post Post #8199 (isolation #41) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:27 am

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Post Post #8200 (isolation #42) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:27 am

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Infinity would you draft that card in limited
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Post Post #8202 (isolation #43) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:04 am

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I think that is very wrong
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Post Post #8204 (isolation #44) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:04 am

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Yes. You get both things. It will always cascade into the spell Strategic Planning, which was considered powerful enough of a 2 mana card selection spell that it was colorshift printed into a modern horizons limited format.
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Post Post #8206 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:48 am

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I agree and I would draft it even in sets with no graveyard synergies. I think a set having graveyard synergies only moves it from "should never be wheeling" to "jawdropping".

I think a similar card perhaps with the flavor text "The stitcher died years ago, but her dutiful assistant still keeps the laboratory well stocked." would help out the struggling midnight hunt blue black zombies archetype a lot
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Post Post #8208 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:03 am

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I was wary of Poe's law but not wary enough
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Post Post #8212 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:54 am

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Proud of you !
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Post Post #8228 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:48 am

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The trick is to not switch magic decks
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Post Post #8230 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:58 am

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Owning the whole legacy format 0.0
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Post Post #8239 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:51 am

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I think it's not good when borrowing is the best way to play a "collectible card game"
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Post Post #8241 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:13 am

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I like some of the other business models but mtg is a natural Monopoly
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Post Post #8247 (isolation #52) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:29 pm

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I wish
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Post Post #8249 (isolation #53) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:19 pm

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there's other decks that demonstrate it better than this one but it's pretty funny that jtms was ever banned from a format he's not good enough for.

The deck looks fun. Playing 1+1 Chalice seems like a stressful amount of access to that effect to play but is pretty easy to imagine being correct
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Post Post #8252 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:20 pm

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I'd probably want to play 0+2
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Post Post #8254 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:28 am

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I'd probably play an incorrect number of copies to avoid stress
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Post Post #8255 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:30 am

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As a selfinterested dredge player I recommend you run 4+0 though.
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Post Post #8264 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:49 am

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Idk why an obvious joke post made you feel like dunking on me for trying to play magic on a budget
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Post Post #8275 (isolation #58) » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:03 am

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Time raveler has the card advantage/tempo of oblivion ring or vindicate albeit in bounce style, but randomly also Kitesail Freebooters all your opponent's countermagic too.
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Post Post #8280 (isolation #59) » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:27 pm

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yeah i immediately saw the irony in Ythan saying that and also knew well enough that Ythan wasn't trying to be ironic and just was reading the oracle text for the card and hasn't played in a while.
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Post Post #8283 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:59 pm

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my first experience playing multiplayer (not counting high school) involved people explaining to me that we were playing a 5 player mode where each person tries to kill 2 players who are like their bounty targets, and the first play to complete that task is the sole winner, and I cast a red sweeper that killed 1 of my creatures, none of my bounty player's creatures, and 5 creatures of a player who was on the verge of eliminating both of his bounty targets, and he was furious at me for playing the game wrong.

my second experience playing multiplayer I doom bladed some legendary creature that would obviously snowball, and that player had 1 white mana up, and casted silence and insisted it countered the doom blade, caring more about a consensus of two players who had played it that way before more than my dry encyclopedic explanation of the definition of casting a spell.
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Post Post #8285 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:36 pm

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you're so rude
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Post Post #8287 (isolation #62) » Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:45 am

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I def do not have time for arena :/
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Post Post #8291 (isolation #63) » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:47 am

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Shiki you play dominion?
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Post Post #8293 (isolation #64) » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:27 pm

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Life seems like part of some combo that doesn't exist. Life + "each player sacrifices all no creature permanents" or mass polymorph priced at a nonmeme cmc
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Post Post #8303 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:26 pm

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play LoR Iguess
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Post Post #8305 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:43 pm

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I think it's a pretty cringey design. Kind of an Ajani Vengeant rehash. The two loyalty counters aren't a meaningful incentive because doing a curve with a 5 defending a planeswalker is going to be way better than a curve with a 4 defending a planeswalker. It seems like a failure to address what the issue with Phyrexian mana is.

Combining the unleash mechanic with Phyrexian mana with unleash is what I'd do if I was designing a set and I was told I needed to bring back Phyrexian mana even though it was a problematic banfest. This is the -opposite- of that.
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Post Post #8309 (isolation #67) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:27 am

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Cavern of souls is much stronger
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Post Post #8310 (isolation #68) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:28 am

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Maybe you play both but ancient ziggurat is already a card too.

Activated abilities are surprisingly rare
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Post Post #8312 (isolation #69) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:04 pm

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I like james
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Post Post #8318 (isolation #70) » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:26 am

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The shrines are designed for limited. People win from mill from permanents that mill 2 cards per turn all the time when there are forty cards in the starting deck. You could raise some questions about whether incidental mill is fun in limited, but I'd be shocked if the blue shrine isn't draftable.
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Post Post #8355 (isolation #71) » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:40 am

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I didn't know scg runs any limited wow
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Post Post #8357 (isolation #72) » Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:54 pm

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should i get into flesh and blood
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Post Post #8359 (isolation #73) » Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:45 am

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I misread unhappy as "happy"

I hate ragavan and my main fnm draw was modern so I'm on a break from the game
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Post Post #8364 (isolation #74) » Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:06 am

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I may very well just not like the idea of constructed modern enough as a baseline. It feels like it doesn't present me challenging decisions often enough.
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Post Post #8373 (isolation #75) » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:54 pm

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Someone is gushing over the doubletraumatize in their sealed pool.
I think that card is really bad

It's like a 6 mana Planeswalker that sacs a creature to cast and needs to +1 loyalty: do nothing 5 times in a row to ult: win the game
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Post Post #8375 (isolation #76) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:01 am

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Its hard to make a perfect analogy, the Planeswalker is weaker and there's a band of cases where you can't block enough to prevent a few damage to the Planeswalker but you can block enough to protect your starting life total when you cast the mill bomb
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Post Post #8377 (isolation #77) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:23 pm

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this is an imaginary planeswalker with no minuses but maybe we can give it a "-1: Shuffle your graveyard" for asserting dominance
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Post Post #8378 (isolation #78) » Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:26 pm

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This past first prerelease was my first experience with how rules text volume creep has affected the game.

All sorts of games were going to time but the time it takes to read one of these new cards cause it's been cast, in a prerelease context, shit was just silly.

It's a little bit exacerbated by capenna being a tricolor set with ton of fixing so players are often 4 color and playing all their rares. I don't like gold sets tbh.
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Post Post #8395 (isolation #79) » Mon Aug 29, 2022 4:56 am

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It looks really fun.

There's a very new LGS in my sector of greater Seattle doing a weekly draft fnm so I think I'll go there a bunch to play the set. Also grindworthy for arena. I didn't love snc. Hbg is more goofy fun but it's hard to want to grind the hearthstone set, I played snc more
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Post Post #8401 (isolation #80) » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:58 pm

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I don't think the wall deck is the best example of the format allowing you to devalue tempo since it plays a 1 mana creature that blocks 2s and a two mana creature that trades with 3s.

I do think it's a slower format with people sometimes trying to be slightly bigger than eachother though.

There's a weird giant growth burn deck i've seen screenshots of that plays all 1 drops and green combat tricks and just tries to convert combat tricks to lava spikes, that looks pretty fast but i've never seen it in queue.
Against white based aggro i get overwhelmed a lot but if I draft and play slightly differently i'm getting the hang of winning against it with a slower strategy.
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