Mini 2133: XP Mafia II (Game Over)

[Alisae]

the idea is so absurd but deciding to powerlynch the protective is just so baaaaad

[Alisae]

Ya know what
call me crazy
VOTE: ame
but I'm feeling this atm

[Alisae]

TSE is last scum guys. Ginnie claimed 4 XP prior to replace out and TSE only has 2 for apparently no reason.

i have 2 xp

i keep forgetting to train

started with 1

got the one from the dead dude

forgot to gift im sorry

I wonder if we should massclaim

The only claims I am curious about are Ginnie's and Hectics. I don't think it's necessary for you, PB, or Pine to do so unless you feel it is important.

Actually it is important that Ginnie claim before the end of Day. Ginne could you full claim in your next post?

vt 4xp upgrade

[Alisae]

Ya know what
call me crazy
VOTE: ame
but I'm feeling this atm

Explain

I don't want to believe that PB decided the best play to make at D2 EoD is to not lynch me.
I do not believe in a PB that accurately understands how I play the game as both alignments and is scum.

I think Farkset TMI'd Pine as town and ABR feels townie

{Spring, NK15} contains at least 1 town. NK15 tried to phrase Spring/Raven v Farkset as SvS.
NK I don't think as scum would suggest something so absurd as say Spring v Farkset is SvS.
Raven seems town imo. Like I am reading their posts this day phase and I think they're fine.

TSE doesn't make sense to me as scum. What he is saying lines up with what Ginngie previously said and its consistent and I think its fine.

who does that leave?

[Alisae]

oh and also Titus kinda just seems town imo

[Alisae]

The thing that irks me the most is I wanted a massclaim to try to get Ame, a player who mechanically understood the game, to use the mechanics of the game to snowball a win.
Instead they lynch Creature, a player who wouldn't fakeclaim this super op bullshit role, and is this super amazing op bullshit role

[Alisae]

Ali, TSE didn't train last night.

and he got 1 xp somehow

[Alisae]

weird ok

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

i don't particularly mind killing off TSE tbh.
its either that or just completely ignoring him.
It's not like he'll contribute anything positive or +townevs to the game

[Alisae]

Raya gave him the XP

would it make sense for raya to do that?

[Alisae]

Titus what happened to your slot on night 1?

[Alisae]

@Alisae,

If NK is staring down the neck of PoE, doesn't it make sense to argue Raven is scum if he knows ABR will follow?

he doesn't tho.
that SvS theory was crafted on D1

[Alisae]

btw we're 100% questing tonight.
I need to prove I'm not lieing somehow

[Alisae]

yeah im down to end the game with lynchign TSE kekw

[Alisae]

if its not TSE tho I'm going to be a bit more wary of Ame here because they lynched Creature and thats bad.

[Alisae]

PB/TSE reasoning is awfully scarce

if they were scum they would probably leave me as lynchable

[Alisae]

The thing that irks me the most is I wanted a massclaim to try to get Ame, a player who mechanically understood the game, to use the mechanics of the game to snowball a win.
Instead they lynch Creature, a player who wouldn't fakeclaim this super op bullshit role, and is this super amazing op bullshit role

I think this is unfair because you weren't here to help me. I didn't know that about creature, and I'm not a mechanical solve type player. On my home forum, we ignore claims that aren't mechanically clear when it comes to lynching. Additionally, ABR's role could have made us all BPs or Body Guards, which seems like a lot of protection.

What do you think of PB agreeing with and joining the creature lynch?

ok i can give u the benefit of the doubt here.
I think it would happen as any alignment.

BPs or Body Guards, which seems like a lot of protection.

Plus make him a doctor.

also wtf is this game

[Alisae]

if I was here from D1 and properly understood mechanics I could probably mech solve this but I don't properly understand mechanics so..

[Alisae]

Creature (3): Ame, ABR, Raya
ABR (3): TSE, Titus, NK15
Raya (1): Alisae
NK15 (1): PB

Not voting (2): Creature, Raven

Takes 6 to lynch. 1 hours and 45 minutes

VOTE: ABR

I'll change to creature if needed but I'd rather do this

I didn't agree with Creature's lynch. We had less than 2 hours and it was the only viable lynch at that point because we didn't have enough people to vote ABR at that moment

you did say that it could be in line with his scum meta but honestly that could come from any alignment in that situation, sorta like how I just hammered ame and called her reads kinda scummy in that normal she decided to replace in

[Alisae]

I agreed that it was Creature's scum meta which is doing nothing, but he probably siteflaked and fucked that meta

that was a long time ago and he changed since then. I believe he actually plays scumgames now

[Alisae]

Like Creature has an SK win now and won a scummy for best SK performance

[Alisae]

Titus what happened to your slot on night 1?

Got sabotaged.

was worth a shot I suppose

[Alisae]

@Alisae,

If NK is staring down the neck of PoE, doesn't it make sense to argue Raven is scum if he knows ABR will follow?

he doesn't tho.
that SvS theory was crafted on D1

Oh, so a theory that denies obvtown being obvtown is good because?

its too nonsensical to come from scum at that time.

[Alisae]

ig i don't particularly have a reason to say its not NK15 if TSE somehow flips town

[Alisae]

he got 1 xp and didn't train

[Alisae]

Hey is training not passive

for real tho is training passive

Is training passive or do I have to message the mod to train

which I think would be lame due to the fact that I'm not told I have to PM the mod to train.

If it is passive, then I earned one less xp because I should have 3 since that one dude died and I didn't do anything last night

i have 2 xp

i keep forgetting to train

started with 1

got the one from the dead dude

forgot to gift im sorry

[Alisae]

can someome confirm if PB was instrumental to lynching knightmare as he claims?

you can read all about it here

[Alisae]

from there to eod

[Alisae]

End of the phase is not instant are you illiterate?

[Alisae]

You just tell the mod u dont wanna upgrade
Its that easy

[Alisae]

Scum can’t NK their buddies

is this a rule

[Alisae]

Scum can’t NK their buddies

is this a rule

I’ve never seen a game where this has happened but I want the mod to confirm it just in case. Wouldn’t that make the game bastard?

its how i got my don corleone win in 2017 and ABR did it in that same year. He shot Kuribo and we won the game

[Alisae]

if we are questing I do have a question
do I need to worry about scum getting more XP? The answer of this helps me dictate my actions so i would like multiple people to answer this

[Alisae]

did i unvote ame
i need to make sure
UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

why the fuck r u humoring my idea when u were pushing me for lieing bro

[Alisae]

i don't even know what creature meta looks like nowadays, I actually haven't had enough games to play with him since his meta has changed
i just know he wouldn't fakeclaim God

[Alisae]

why the fuck r u humoring my idea when u were pushing me for lieing bro

There is only one remaining scum.

ur pushes are ass and ur not scumhunting bro

[Alisae]

Look, upgrade can be done at any time during the day. You are informed about the result at the end of the day. This means that upgrade is instant, you just have no idea what you are until the phase ends.
Me having 0 xp due to this simply means if you want to get rid of me lynch someone else who is suspect and let them vengekill me.

Stop making excuses and just cancel it

[Alisae]

Stop making excuses and just cancel it

I cannot cancel it.

You are lieing

[Alisae]

Stop making excuses and just cancel it

I cannot cancel it.

You are lieing

I haven`t tried it, and I

won`t

. It would be pro-scum to cancel upgrade.

Not if we lynch u

[Alisae]

That literally just reads as I don’t want to
Even if I make something up along the lines of “you’re lieing” like I did (because knowing SS I think you would be able to cancel it), for whatever reason, you just don’t want to, and I am trying to expose that.

[Alisae]

Btw
VOTE: no
Now that I think about it this is better.
today we lynch and if there’s a kill its 1v5
Then another lynch and another kill is 1v3
Then we capture and its 1v2 with the captured person being confirmed town if there’s a kill.

[Alisae]

So what are we doing?

[Alisae]

Ok so what about lynching TSE

[Alisae]

Man idunno
Nor do i really care tbh

[Alisae]

Also I’m not particularly interested in soft clearing people

[Alisae]

And by people I mean Raven

[Alisae]

Is this something that Titus came up with?
If so its not like I’ll protest against it, we’ll probably win the game lmao
VOTE: nk15

[Alisae]

Titus carry me xD

[Alisae]

Also I’m not particularly interested in soft clearing people

And by people I mean Raven

Why Raven in particular? Isn't soft clearing good for town?

i tr raven so I think it’s unnecessary

[Alisae]

Also we’re questing tonight btw
Just making that clear

[Alisae]

I don’t see how I nightkill with 0 XP tbh

[Alisae]

I trained and now i have 1 but still

[Alisae]

I upgraded and put bg in play

good job

[Alisae]

I was targeted for the kill last night. Both TSE and and ABR were home (Pink Barded me). So it's down to Ali and Pink.

its impossible for me to have killed anyone on N3 because I upgraded and had 0 XP and atm I have 2 xp and can use a LR to prove it.
Go on a fucking quest for once so I can actually prove myself

[Alisae]

I forgot a to train again FML

how do you forget to train when you're being held accountable for it

[Alisae]

I'm obligated to agree with ABR here tbh.
I just don't see PB as scum right now

[Alisae]

Nah, you aren't tracked clear and you didn't speculate ninja until I started to suspect you. So how are you clear?

i didn't have experience to perform a kill on n3
i don't know how this is impossible to understand?

[Alisae]

oh its pb
VOTE: pb

[Alisae]

oh teh game is over

[Alisae]

pb defending me on d2 was bad

[Alisae]

like i townread you for it
but i don't think it was the play to make idunno

[Alisae]

pb defending me on d2 was bad

I mean I thought your lynch was going to go through

oh
lmao