Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[skitter30]

i think its fair for u to have a read on me and skitter because we had the same position. R u not partially basing ur read on skitter in how she reads and formulates one on u? Do u think skitter is just sheeping my opinions here or something?

no?
same position != same reads

ss's ate is making me rethink him but i dont' know if i actually tr him or if i'm susceptible to ate

[lilith2013]

wow and a pagetop too

TLDR: i think i know how to read SS the best out of this pl and i think he’s town; the mechanical stuff being “wrong” is never scum indicative for him; also where are his scumbuddies pushing a counterwagon?

the mechanical stuff isn't what i'm reading him on

fair, i think at least 2 of the people on his wagon were though

he feels here like how he was engaging in city

the reason why i asked you if you’d read zoey’s is because i feel like the way he’s engaging is actually more similar to zoey’s than to city

i know i'm town and i was vocally pushing him for like 3-4 irl days with literally no traction other than fire and i feel like if he were town that would have gotten more traction give how hard i was pushing it?

wasn’t that at the same time that a juicy gobbles wagon was happening? and you thought scum were all over that wagon, right? i guess it’s a bit weird but also maybe fire is scum and the other scum were on the gobbles wagon

[skitter30]

ok nm i still townread lilith and it makes me wonder if i ought to be townreading ss
my townread on fire is kinda evaporating

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 1.39

Something_Smart [5]

: Firebringer [1124], skitter30 [1664], gobbledygook [1704], Bingle [1927], Menalque [2000]

— [L-2]

gobbledygook [5]

: Datisi [651], Pink Ball [1115], Something_Smart [1676], MariaR [1855], lilith2013 [2218]

— [L-2]

lilith2013 [1]:

Blake Belladonna [1345]

MariaR [1]:

Almost50 [2174]

Not Voting [1]:

PenguinPower [1840]

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2020-06-19 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

skitter30 regular v/la Fridays and Saturdays

[PenguinPower]

That turkey has gone super quiet huh

For a medical reason...

[lilith2013]

ok nm i still townread lilith and it makes me wonder if i ought to be townreading ss
my townread on fire is kinda evaporating

errrrr was this before or after seeing my post

[Blake Belladonna]

*waits for Blake to get to the last post in that series

Of you scumreading me?

That isn't really news.

Is it not? I feel like me thinking that you’re actually quite likely to be scum is news vs just me not thinking you’ve done anything particularly town indicative

Don’t you want to know why?

I'm not really worried about it, no.

Err

Why?

Because I don't get the impression that you're going to deathtunnel over it, and I also believe you're aware that lynching me on day one is not a good idea regardless of my alignment.

There's really no utility in attempting to dissuade you from scumreading me at this time and so I don't feel very compelled to take those steps.

[Menalque]

That turkey has gone super quiet huh

For a medical reason...

Oh right, yes, I forgot momentarily

[skitter30]

I also think (pb/fb) is likely to have a scum in it, and then somewhere in (skitt/Blake/Maria/dats/lil) is the other.

is this universe if ss is scum?

This is either way, I haven’t thought too much about what happens if SS flips town because honestly I feel like I’m stuck in a vortex of double guessing and if we don’t lynch SS idk where I wanna shift to

ngl i can read this as being a slip that there's only 2 scum
i'm not saying it is but this is the first thing that came to mind when i read this

[Menalque]

*waits for Blake to get to the last post in that series

Of you scumreading me?

That isn't really news.

Is it not? I feel like me thinking that you’re actually quite likely to be scum is news vs just me not thinking you’ve done anything particularly town indicative

Don’t you want to know why?

I'm not really worried about it, no.

Err

Why?

Because I don't get the impression that you're going to deathtunnel over it, and I also believe you're aware that lynching me on day one is not a good idea regardless of my alignment.

There's really no utility in attempting to dissuade you from scumreading me at this time and so I don't feel very compelled to take those steps.

Annoyingly accurate in terms of what I’m not going to do even if not necessarily insightful into what I’m reading as scummy in your play. Although I’ll acknowledge that you didn’t try on the latter point.

My concern is that I feel like you’re managing the game to an outsize extent and that very much fits with what I remember of you saying about how you play as scum from... I wanna say post-apocalypse upick? Idk. But yeah I kinda have an unpleasant feeling that all of (turkey, lilith, S_S) may be town and we’re being setup to be in too awful a position to change up by the time we realise that. But equally yes, lynching you on D1 is very stupid and so I’m kinda conflicted here. I don’t really feel strongly enough about it to want to actually push you especially as I’d then feel doubly stupid if we lost despite following your D1 reads.

[skitter30]

Nah I had a long day I'm probably doing it tomorrow, but if you're scumreading me I don't see the point

i feel like you made up a reason to scumread me and when i called you out on it you're hiding behind 'i'll get around to look at her games' to avoid having to substantiate it

You're right! Guilty as charged!

ok and i think that making up a reason to scumread me is scummy ....

[Menalque]

I also think (pb/fb) is likely to have a scum in it, and then somewhere in (skitt/Blake/Maria/dats/lil) is the other.

is this universe if ss is scum?

This is either way, I haven’t thought too much about what happens if SS flips town because honestly I feel like I’m stuck in a vortex of double guessing and if we don’t lynch SS idk where I wanna shift to

ngl i can read this as being a slip that there's only 2 scum
i'm not saying it is but this is the first thing that came to mind when i read this

That’s cool, skitt
Who wanted to lynch skitter again? I’m warming to it

[Menalque]

Like how does that make any sense skitter

[skitter30]

That turkey has gone super quiet huh

he thought he might have had covid but it's apparently ashtma and either way it sounds like he has other priorities atm

[skitter30]

ok nm i still townread lilith and it makes me wonder if i ought to be townreading ss
my townread on fire is kinda evaporating

errrrr was this before or after seeing my post

this was from reading things several pages ago

[Menalque]

That turkey has gone super quiet huh

he thought he might have had covid but it's apparently ashtma and either way it sounds like he has other priorities atm

It has already been covered that i briefly forgot

[Blake Belladonna]

*waits for Blake to get to the last post in that series

Of you scumreading me?

That isn't really news.

Is it not? I feel like me thinking that you’re actually quite likely to be scum is news vs just me not thinking you’ve done anything particularly town indicative

Don’t you want to know why?

I'm not really worried about it, no.

Err

Why?

Because I don't get the impression that you're going to deathtunnel over it, and I also believe you're aware that lynching me on day one is not a good idea regardless of my alignment.

There's really no utility in attempting to dissuade you from scumreading me at this time and so I don't feel very compelled to take those steps.

Annoyingly accurate in terms of what I’m not going to do even if not necessarily insightful into what I’m reading as scummy in your play. Although I’ll acknowledge that you didn’t try on the latter point.

My concern is that I feel like you’re managing the game to an outsize extent and that very much fits with what I remember of you saying about how you play as scum from... I wanna say post-apocalypse upick? Idk. But yeah I kinda have an unpleasant feeling that all of (turkey, lilith, S_S) may be town and we’re being setup to be in too awful a position to change up by the time we realise that. But equally yes, lynching you on D1 is very stupid and so I’m kinda conflicted here. I don’t really feel strongly enough about it to want to actually push you especially as I’d then feel doubly stupid if we lost despite following your D1 reads.

There's little I'd be able to do to dissuade you of this regardless. There's no surefire way to show this as true or false without more long term trajectories.

[skitter30]

Like how does that make any sense skitter

idk that's the first thing that came to my head given how you worded it
i don't know how that of all things makes you think that i'm scummy

what od you think of pink ball making up reasons to scumread me

[Almost50]

Now about this TR you have on me. I claimed Scum. The same thing I did in that game where you SR me the minute I subbed in. WHAT DIFFERENCE did you see here that wasn't there is my question.

i'm not sure what game that was but you feel like town!you here

Jazz Mafia

[skitter30]

oh that one!
idk can i just chalk it up 'magical ability to read you'?
cuz i legit have no way to articulate it, sometimes i can just tell

VOTE: mariar

[Blake Belladonna]

How can there be a slip that there's only two scum in an open game where there's a guaranteed three scum?

[Menalque]

Like how does that make any sense skitter

idk that's the first thing that came to my head given how you worded it
i don't know how that of all things makes you think that i'm scummy

what od you think of pink ball making up reasons to scumread me

If already said that ponk bill is in my “quite likely to be scum” area

How do you see that and think it’s a slip I just don’t see it

Like even if I were scum then I’d be slipping that there’s 3 by knowing that there’s (1) me (2) the scum in (fb/pb) and (3) the scum in the girls

[Blake Belladonna]

No wait, I misread the setup. Ignore 2270.

[skitter30]

there aren't tho, there's like 2 (or 3?) setups that have 2 groupscum + sk

[Menalque]

Also I think it’s kinda disingenuous to imply that that’s the only reason I have to scumread you when I’ve literally been talking about being unsure on you the white day phase thus far and have explained this too