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[popopopopopopo]

im opposed to prs outing themselves on day 1 in general. miller is an exception obviously

[popopopopopopo]

EV

elaborate

[popopopopopopo]

i meant to quote the whole post there.

[osuka]

If I'm in a neighbourhood, doesn't it mean I'm lying and may be mafia? I would assume people would want to know that.

You may be mafia regardless of what you’re claiming, to be perfectly clear

[LicketyQuickety]

I kinda don't want to make this whole day about a single claim, so going to...

UNVOTE: Truth
VOTE: Guilty Lion

Unless he can impress me with some decent content, I'd like my vote here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s been 8 hours and you’re voting GL based on inactivity?

[NorwegianboyEE]

More than 2 masons in a mini setup sounds implausible. A hood would be more likely for that.

[LicketyQuickety]

More than 2 masons in a mini setup sounds implausible. A hood would be more likely for that.

Truth has all but admitted it's a hood. It's a hood until proven otherwise.

[Nauci]

Good evening folks,

Interesting. I would like everyone to know I am a Miller Mason. I have buddies but I won't be revealing who they are at this time. For now, I will act as their representative.

What is that even supposed to mean, act as their representative?

59 does not come from any town with an iq that has anywhere near 3 digits

Truth's immediate claim is kinda ballsy unless it's true. I feel 59 was just pushing back, why is it such a bad idea?

Changing gears, 44 isn't the greatest comeback with the whole fake millers are all mafia argument (if I'm understanding that right). That would be such a huge downfall for the scum if they identified together and then one gets lynched and we find out who they are. Of course we would take the rest down. That just sounds like a terrible strategy I would never think the scum would use unless they were complete morons. So VOTE: LicketyQuickety because scum aren't stupid and we have to hunt smart.

Lick, what would your strategy be as scum? Fly under the radar? Big and bold to seem fearless of dying? Something else?

Did you mean to say "fake masons" instead of "fake millers" in this post?

[Nauci]

Glitch, I don't understand why in that post you voted for Quick. Maybe I'm misreading the post, but can you elaborate on your case for that vote?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Spoiler:

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I may or may not be in a neighbourhood. I am open to someone claiming neighbours with me which I will play along with. Of course, it might also be my real neighbour if I am in a neighbourhood. This would be the Wifom element at play, and should make it difficult for mafia to decide whether I am a Mason or a neighbour.

Why did you claim Miller Mason? Why didn't you just claim the Miller aspect of your role?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I have Quick as town and lean town on Nauci

[Nauci]

I may or may not be in a neighbourhood. I am open to someone claiming neighbours with me which I will play along with. Of course, it might also be my real neighbour if I am in a neighbourhood. This would be the Wifom element at play, and should make it difficult for mafia to decide whether I am a Mason or a neighbour.

Why did you claim Miller Mason? Why didn't you just claim the Miller aspect of your role?

I would also like to know this

[Nauci]

Spoiler:

You can be town for this post

My biases run deep

[Cat Scratch Fever]

still, i dont think outing the hood, masons or not, is a good idea.

mason miller makes very little sense as a role no?

if a cop checks, masons can just come in and say he claimed miller to us in our masonry, then what...

Do you think Truth is telling the truth about his role?

[NorwegianboyEE]

lean town on Nauci

You're just biased towards their avatar aren't you.

[Deimos27]

Official Vote Count 1.03

John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) was a British philosopher who advocated utilitarianism and liberalism.
He is also known for his early feminist work "The Subjection of Women", written jointly with his wife Harriet Taylor Mill.

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Lynching

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

LicketyQuickety

(3): Nauci, Truth, Glitch

popopopopopopo

(2): osuka, mavsfan41

NorwegianboyEE

(1): GuiltyLion

osuka

(1): popopopopopopo

GuiltyLion

(1): LicketyQuickety

Not Voting

(5): Candy Shop, Cat Scratch Fever, Rozyroz, Looker, NorwegianboyEE

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-07-01 18:16:10).

Mod notes:

• Keep animated GIFs behind spoilers, please.
  
• Candy Shop has received their role PM. Rozyroz still has another (expired on 2020-06-19 09:28:39) to pick up theirs before I start looking for a replacement.

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[NorwegianboyEE]

I've played in other non-specific forums but not on mafiascum. It's my first game here. Isn't it better EV to NL with no info?

Oh hey, it's standard noob question #1.
No, it's not better to no lynch in basically every single circumstance except for some very few unlikely situations.

[Looker]

Popopo. You will be my voting slave

Spoiler:

More than 2 masons in a mini setup sounds implausible. A hood would be more likely for that.

Truth has all but admitted it's a hood. It's a hood until proven otherwise.

Do you feel we have a legitimate claim 7 pages in?

Do you think Truth is telling the truth about his role?

Why are you trying to avoid RVS?

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VOTE: LicketyQuickety Consider it a reward for your...effort

[NorwegianboyEE]

Based on initial impressions i do not feel any want of lynching either one of Quick/Truth today. Would like to put some pressure on the cats right now.
VOTE: Nauci
@Popopo, If you'd be so kind.

[Looker]

Might be a while before I'm back

[mavsfan41]

So I haven’t fully finished the read but wanted to comment about LicketyQuickety going after the miller/mason claim. In 84, you mention the two possibilities for going after Truth’s claim. I would argue it’s #1 and he’s new vs #2. Post 52 should tell you that. Truth saying he has his mason buddies coming forward to verify his claim, that would look horrible coming from scum. If scum!Truth is fake claiming miller/mason then his buddies would be scum. To 1) be scum and suggest his partners will verify his claim is one helluva gambit if ANYONE of them were to be lynched, you could easily link them together 2) to not know how that would sound saying he has buddies coming forward with players being skeptical of his claim and not being aware of the optics of this. This tells me that he hasn’t even considered how scummy it would be to say “hey guys. I have a private chat and will show guilty to a cop’s investigation, but don’t worry cause I’ve got people in that private chat to verify I’m town.” That sounds scummy af and Truth seems to just not have even considered the optics. Basically his 52 reads to me like someone being like I’m confirmed town cause my buddies will back me up without even considering scum could make the same exact claim with scum buddies backing that fake claim up. As of right now, I hafta accept his claim here (at least for now).

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm 90% sure Truth's claim will resolve by itself at some point later in the game. But assuming nothing proves their claim for like 2/3 day cycles we should probably take a serious look at whether or not it's a scum gambit. But today i'm confident believing there myself too. I don't think Quick is necessarily scum for his push, but it is quite mindbogglingly stupid to push so hard for a lynch on someone that will most likely be mechanically cleared further down the line.

[Truth]

I may or may not be in a neighbourhood. I am open to someone claiming neighbours with me which I will play along with. Of course, it might also be my real neighbour if I am in a neighbourhood. This would be the Wifom element at play, and should make it difficult for mafia to decide whether I am a Mason or a neighbour.

Why did you claim Miller Mason? Why didn't you just claim the Miller aspect of your role?

I would also like to know this

I thought it would be a good idea if one of the Masons claimed so that doctors could be used on me. In hindsight I should have checked with my buddies first.