micro 951 mystery box of silver gnine: well we're done here.

[hari]

the knife thing sounds like an asspull

so the most sense i can make of the knife thing is that it is related to this (which was referenced by your opening post though later explained by you as having to do with a doctor, i believe):

no one will have a degree in psychology, though this does not stop them from practicing it.

since a psychologist in mafia terms is an investigative role that determines a players ability to kill,

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Psychologist

and the knife could possibly not grant the ability to kill but still return false positives? or possibly it is said to grant the ability to kill but someone practicing psychology investigating them would find that they actually could not?

the knife is a weird claim for bugspray to have wholly invented, but i don't know if it's town indicative.

[hari]

the no degree bit is making me think that if there is someone with a psychologist-esque ability that they can't trust their results and the purpose of the knife could also be a way for them to learn this, in which case it makes sense that the gifting of something like that would be public during the day.

[Fishy Logic]

now that you say it like that, it reminded me that schadd_ sometimes has rules like these in his games:

nobody will be a psychologist, a ninja, or a traitor. (cops are possible)

it doesn't really do anything to change my mind, however. it being completely made up or only half made up is irrelevant to me. from my point of view, i really do not think they're town.

-D

[hari]

from my point of view, i really do not think they're town.

if the knife exists and actually grants the ability to kill, it seems it would likely be a mafia claim that was also restricted to only being given to town or something like that, which is potentially an alternative explanation for the failure of the gift beyond 'i didn't say end of day' since that bit really stands out to me.

[bugspray]

would like to have content from hellbooks and hari on this blessed day 1

[bugspray]

What why didn't I get pedited hello Hari

[votato]

would like to have content from hellbooks and hari on this blessed day 1

in this game you must know that its day 2.

hot take: scum team is fish and bugspray, this is a strange gambit to deepwolf, and the "knife" is either a scum ability or just their factional kill.

[hellbooks]

would like to have content from hellbooks and hari on this blessed day 1

YA? what's up?

[votato]

would like to have content from hellbooks and hari on this blessed day 1

YA? what's up?

any reads? thoughts? some content at least?

[hellbooks]

Btw, I read day 1 and was strongly townreading you and scumleaning Fishy.

i am like townreading both

I'm commuter with a knife and i apparently used incorrect phrasing when trying to give it to fishy logic so that's why you didn't get to stab anyone

yeah it's either a terrible lie or a terrible truth i'm inclined towards the former

Also, looks like Scum!Vota knew that Bugs wasnt making it out of the day alive already and is bussing, so we appreciate that!

real talk: kinda into this theory

UGH you should read my personal pt after this game and see that im 100% telling the truth about this knife thing and i basically only used it wrong. just be ready to be mad when you're stuck in lylo tomorrow

hate this kinda thing but unfortunately it kinda works on me that being said you did like, make two major mistakes

hell books was not posting like at all so might have just been lurking scum

i literally was and also you kind of cut it short there

I actually read bugspray's tone as town here. But the hammer and claim is leaving me at a loss.

i guess i'm about here

[hellbooks]

the knife thing sounds like an asspull

so the most sense i can make of the knife thing is that it is related to this (which was referenced by your opening post though later explained by you as having to do with a doctor, i believe):

no one will have a degree in psychology, though this does not stop them from practicing it.

since a psychologist in mafia terms is an investigative role that determines a players ability to kill,

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Psychologist

and the knife could possibly not grant the ability to kill but still return false positives? or possibly it is said to grant the ability to kill but someone practicing psychology investigating them would find that they actually could not?

the knife is a weird claim for bugspray to have wholly invented, but i don't know if it's town indicative.

i dont think that setup clues will be in the ruleset.
definitely would like something beyond setup spec from you

[hellbooks]

if bugspray ends up being town i'd be primarily sus of skitz and votato

[votato]

if bugspray ends up being town i'd be primarily sus of skitz and votato

and since the two of us are super townie, bugs has to be scum. hellbooks is totally a viable partner.

[votato]

that was an incredibly bland catchup

[hellbooks]

Spoiler: response option 1

i'm an incredibly bland person

Spoiler: response option 2

how this for bland ALL OF THOSE POSTS ARE FUCKING GARBAGE AND YOU'RE CONFIRMED SCUM!!!

gladiate: votato

dayvig: votato

dayvig: bugspray

[Olórin]

How many times can you commute, bugspray?

What's the actual name of your role?

[Olórin]

I'm liking votato for scum here. I associate this aggressive in your face kind of play with scum!votato.

would like to have content from hellbooks and hari on this blessed day 1

YA? what's up?

any reads? thoughts? some content at least?

that was an incredibly bland catchup

[votato]

Yeah but how many times have you actually seen town!votato? I think i know who you are and i think im generally scum in our past games in the one game i can think of where i was town i was very aggressive. You were scum though, so maybe you didn't pick up on it

[Olórin]

Perhaps.

However, my identity is a well guarded secret and I sincerely doubt anyone here knows who this wizard is.

[votato]

does this wizard sometimes ride around on a broom?

[bugspray]

How many times can you commute, bugspray?

What's the actual name of your role?

as many times as i want so its gonna be every time to dodge that nk and also not get stabbed

[bugspray]

oh and my role is literally commuter with a knife

[Olórin]

does this wizard sometimes ride around on a broom?

[Olórin]

Am I crazy for believing bugspray here? Maybe I've gone senile over my years but I'm buying what they're saying and their tone reads as sincere.

I don't like skitter's leave of absence from this specific game and am not a fan of this post:

I'm not super thrilled with how the day ended and tbh it kinda jarred me out of the gamestate and i feel ~unmoored~ rn

Off the cuff things i wanna say:
- dat's long post responding to every post on p1 felt townie, but his other posts i dont townread and i actively scumread formerfish, in particular his spat with nahdia
- @dats you have experience with bugspray, you said? What do you think of the hammer/knife thing?
- i still townread votato, and dislike fish's push on him
- i cant tell if bugspray is scum or trolling

vla for a bit, i'm not feeling super great :/

The first line doesn't do it for me. It feels like a good excuse to semi-lurk out the game and I think I've seen something similar from skitter!scum before. The City Never Sleeps game after acryon was lynched. Correct me if I'm wrong, skitter.

Also, why can bugspray only be scum or trolling? Why can't the claim be legitimate?

[Olórin]

from my point of view, i really do not think they're town.

if the knife exists and actually grants the ability to kill, it seems it would likely be a mafia claim that was also restricted to only being given to town or something like that, which is potentially an alternative explanation for the failure of the gift beyond 'i didn't say end of day' since that bit really stands out to me.

How would that work? If this is true, wouldn't it be compulsive to hand out the knife, since otherwise mafia should just not hand it out?

The interesting thing about this knife, is that if real, can very easily put town into mylo on day 2. It's also extremely swingy and overall anti-town, since giving it to mafia guarentees they're shooting town. While, if you give it to town, they

might

shoot scum instead of town. It's actually kinda just bad and you shouldn't be handing it out. Which makes me think it's less likely to exist because that would be poor balance/design. Unless I'm missing something and town do want it handed out and used for some reason? Oh, I suppose you could all agree on the target in the day beforehand, so if you do hand it to mafia, shooting someone who isn't the agreed target would be a scumclaim. But even then, all you're doing is using the knife kill as one of your lynches, since you go to even numbers. So I don't get it.

If there's another role out there which makes this knife claim make sense, it might actually be worth claiming to validate bugspray's claim. Because currently, I read their tone as town, but the claim just doesn't make any sense.