Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[Datisi]

during the night i reskimmed day 2 and i was like "hmm FB looks kinda bad here ngl"

i am proud of myself even though i realistically did nothing

[Datisi]

Why is PP not in your pool monkey?

you not vibin PP anymore?

[Datisi]

I mean I see no reason to overthink it but I would slightly prefer S_S first

was he not a part of the townblocc yesterday?

[Datisi]

bingle, who do you do want to lynch?

[Datisi]

pardon?

[Datisi]

i heard wjat you said

[Datisi]

there's an implied "please elaborate" there if you didn't catch that

[Datisi]

yeah i parked on gobbles because i thought he was scum? i was sheeping my townread onto maria?

[Datisi]

how much stock are you putting into VCA versus all the reasons you were calling me town yesterday?

[Datisi]

I think the more likely explanation for the vengeful claim is lilith just did it, but if there is more to it imo it was either to try and make it seem like (S_S, bingle) couldn’t be the partner because “tHeY’d NeVeR lEt LiliTh cLaIm vEngEfUl” or

it would be from Blake, in order for her to do the “oh shit don’t venge me!” move

you mea locking herself into a PR claim and then immediately bussing the third buddy?

[Datisi]

i'm still sitting back trying to think of ideas

i've been sus of PP since Day 1 so i kinda see that. your logic Makes Sense i guess just as much as everyone else's Makes Sense - the problem is that people are reaching different conclusions and calling for different heads.

why are the reasons you're seeing for other people town stronger than those you're seeing for me? yesterday you were p sure and were willing to "vouch" for me to people who had me as null

also i found a post in FB's iso that technically if you squint incriminates you in the most insane tinfoily stupid reason possible and while i know it's literally the dumbest case anyone has ever come up with, it is 4 am and i have slept so little in the past few days and i can't get that thought out of my head lmao

[Datisi]

Mena, Datisi is a threat to our scum win.
Please help me kill her. With votes.

this one. guess why.

pedit oops

[Datisi]

i've been sus of PP since Day 1 so i kinda see that

idk it was gut and it continues to be gut

[Datisi]

i know

pedit: it is not because he scumclaimed w you actually

[Datisi]

Mena, Datisi is a threat to our scum win.
Please help me kill her. With votes.

this one. guess why.

pedit oops

Is it actually lol

okay so uhhh
please note i understand how highkey insane this theory is

this is the first time anyone in the game used third-person pronous to refer to me. fb used she. why? we don't talk outside of games, and the only time we played together was on the flying scumsman where everyone was consistently calling me he.

so again why? my thought was that in pregame, when he was talking with his scumbuddies, they referred to me as she and it stuck with him for the beginning of the game. lilith was calling me he, so it isn't her.

who's the only person on this playerlist that consistently calls me she?

[Datisi]

i warned you

[Datisi]

please note i am not actually pushing you on that basis,

just crying to myself in paranoia

also you're the only one playing the wifom game, i'm over here like "oooh fb said she i solve game yes"

[Datisi]

i actually had a PR read on mena and i think this swings him back into TRs for me oops

[Datisi]

I bet you didn’t get my crumb thought datisi

2593?
ftr this isn't the only thing, i thought you felt kinda similar to the mason game but this jumped out at me lol

My crumb game is like next level

this is my line

[Datisi]

I mean I’ll take hardpushing 1 scum, a misplaced tunnel on Maria, PoEing another scum and I’m pretty sure catching the last one (but if not then at least clearing one of the most scumread slots)... if that’s bad play I should play badly more often, it’s better than most of my good play

who did you clear?

[Datisi]

Last one should actually be S_S/bingle as there’s a slim possibility I have a false negative on him

this ain't a clear

[Datisi]

ok cool, off to bed with me, i will crumb hunt tomorrow. and maybe reread for the probably last scum too idk.

[Datisi]

@datisi you should vote the penguin if you’re still there and haven’t gone just yet

i am still here but considering my current levels of Thought i kinda don't want to be voting anything until i get a bit of time to reflect

also fuck me sun is up why am i here

[Datisi]

can we not

[Datisi]

solid fucking pagetop

[Datisi]

i didn't suggest you did or did not start it, i get sad when i see harsh words thrown around here and i'd appreciate if you don't fume ot further

[Datisi]

so before i was in the poe but now you're once again not interested... i don't get it but ok

[Datisi]

me saying "i had a bad gutfeeling about this person" =/= "i am convinced enough to vote them immediately especially when my head could also be on the line"

[Datisi]

my first thought when she flipped was that she was hardbussed because obviously she was getting lynched after claiming vengeful, but seeing fb is scum it's probably that she didn't ask...

[Datisi]

huh, i thought you called me he in the brass n shrapnel game, but i may be misremembering

i can include you in my highkey insane solve if you want.

[Datisi]

i've been sus of PP since Day 1 so i kinda see that. your logic Makes Sense i guess just as much as everyone else's Makes Sense - the problem is that people are reaching different conclusions and calling for different heads.

I don't actually get what it is, but something's wrong about you capitalizing "Make Sense" twice there.

intonation/air quotes. i understand that while nobody seems to be making extremely wrong claims/logic, conclusions are different, so obviously can't all be right.

[Datisi]

I already explained the JOAT must've used the RB shot on N1 already.

is this just because skitt's shot went through last night?

[Datisi]

i'm not sold on lynching PP (nor anyone else at the moment) so i don't see how my vote there would be useful

[Datisi]

Given the missing kill N1, it seems more likely to me that if it’s been used, scum would have used ninja that night. And then with a missing kill that scum wouldn’t be sure of the reason for, they’d probably use the strongman on skitt in the case of a Doctor, right?

that makes sense. i think either the roleblock or strongman would've gotten used night 2 (and skitt's kill fired, so.)

[Datisi]

i'm not sold on lynching PP (nor anyone else at the moment) so i don't see how my vote there would be useful

There are 4 names, choose one

(A50, maria, PP, S_S)

i'd really appreciate if you didn't try to rush me

[Datisi]

i'm not mindlessly gonna push a pp lynch when i know i'm next on the chopping block

[Datisi]

holy fuck

if there was -one person- that madr perfect sense as scum i'd already be voting them

pedit: yeah exactly.

[Datisi]

but is somewhat cleared by being the wagon that sprung up against lilith after S_S’s wagon dispersed.

how is this clearing if the people counterwagoning were {a50, me, you, skitt, bingle} and we know none of those can be s/s with maria?

[Datisi]

if there was -one person- that madr perfect sense as scum i'd already be voting them

LITERALLY THERE IS AND YET I’M HAVING TO PUSH A BOULDER UP A HILL TO GET HIM LYNCHED FOR SOME REASON

i want to review the game and maybe do some meta before committing to anything, because once again, chances are if PP flips green today, i flip green tomorrow, then good fucking luck in lylo. you yelling at me won't change my mind or make me move faster.

[Datisi]

wasn't survivalism a part of your case against her yesterday?

[Datisi]

to be honest i don't even know what 3811 means

[Datisi]

i'm not saying it's a good look for him. but you quoting those posts and adding snarky remarks that have no value is not helping.

[Datisi]

holy shit.

VOTE: pp

are you gonna stop spamming the thread now with useless posts?

[Datisi]

hmm, i was gonna ask you if you thought the lilith/pp fight at sod1 could be s/s (i assume you'd say yes, so to elaborate) but scrolling though mod's iso i see lilith was voting fb for a bit at eod1 so it's not a good argument regardless

do you have any VCA Thoguhts now that we have flips? mainly on/off wagon on day 1?

[Datisi]

yeah, tht's why i'm asking, i think he's the only person that can be scum that's off wagon day1, but i can't do VCA for shit which is why i'm asking how likely is 2on/1off

[Datisi]

it's called a "soft"clear for a reason.

[Datisi]

it is.

a very shitty one, considering the last scum is a JOAT who would be somewhat likely to do a Ninja kill on Night 1.

but it's somewhat of a clear.

[Datisi]

Well, we know datisi didn’t make the kill on N1 in the case that I’m the JK which seems unlikely given she’d have to be the JOAT or in the case that I’m the tracker we know she made the kill with ninja N1.

if you jailkept me on night 1, lynch me immediately because i'm gonna be a huge question mark until it's resolved.

pedit: lmao thank you

[Datisi]

Ok...but that's not a clear. A shitty clear is not a clear.

We're going to talk in circles about this if it continues.

do you think i'm scum or is this just a semantics discussion?

[Datisi]

I don't know. It's not a semantics discussion though...I don't think you should be removed from the pool because of a N1 tracker result.

nobody is arguing i'm completely removed from the pool because of a no move on n1.

[Datisi]

He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because

ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.

@mena

[Datisi]

S_S what do you think about who’s scum? Not just mechanics but who do you think is scum by play at this point?

I mean, it doesn't really matter at this point? I still think A50 is town, so that just leaves Datisi, Maria, and PP, none of which I have strong feelings on, but from my POV if we kill all three it's most likely a win.

except it does matter? even if we collectively agree a50 is town, it's still a pool of 4, where we have 3 lynches. saying "fmpov kill all 3" is not exactly helpful?

[Datisi]

not PR.

[Datisi]

@mod VLA for a day or two

got some bullshit going on, i'll try to be around when possible but no promises.

[Datisi]

I already explained the JOAT must've used the RB shot on N1 already.

is this just because skitt's shot went through last night?

@a50

[Datisi]

i just wanna point out you cannot argue that (1) JOAT used their roleblock on night 1 and (2) datisi is the JOAT who didn't move on night 1 simultaneously.

[Datisi]

mind elaborating, blake?

[Datisi]

Yes.

Just looking at the VCs, you stand out big time.

...mind elaborating a bit further? and telling me how much stock you're putting in vca?

[Datisi]

and you went from calling me town to thinking i'm the last scum by looking at colored votecounts because...?

pedit: this was @blake but bingle's last post is making me question if there is a point to arguing

[Datisi]

will you tell me what that absent thing is?

also when i flip green will you stop being so confident in your "ability" to recognize me when i'm town?

[Datisi]

pedit: this was @blake but bingle's last post is making me question if there is a point to arguing

I don't think there is, tbh.

Like, you're not obvious scum but we're at that point in the game where you just being a possibility for scum is a strong enough reason to lynch you and you ARE a possibility for scum.

assuming i flip town, how likely do you think town still is to win?

[Datisi]

thanks.

[Datisi]

blake, can you humor me and tell me what's The Thing that's apparently missing?

pedit: it's not.

[Datisi]

blake, can you humor me and tell me what's The Thing that's apparently missing?

pedit: it's not.

The way you're responding to pressure is vastly different.

very insightful.

[Datisi]

please tell me you also have an imaginary town!datisi reaction in mind that i was supposed to perform after what happened during the last few pages.

[Datisi]

please tell me you also have an imaginary town!datisi reaction in mind that i was supposed to perform after what happened during the last few pages.

Me or blake?

you.

[Datisi]

i don't appreciate being called scum for ??? reasons and then that person priding themselves for their apparent ability to read me.

like, if i was scum here, this post would literally read just "for the love of fuck kill me already so this torment is over". i don't expect you to believe me because of course you'd say that etc etc.

but if someone is apparently so damn certain i'm about to flip red, and i know i'm not going to, i want them to lay the reasoning out.

[Datisi]

But like

Why tho

Why does it matter that much so long as scum is somewhere in the (datisi, maria, PP) group

it matters to me? for learning how i can play better (because guess what, i don't like being lynchbait and it seems like that's what i'm becoming lately) and also to not have people falsely pride themselves about being able to easily recognize town!me when that's clearly not the case?

also, there's a somewhat chance last scum isn't in there but i don't wanna open that can of worms

[Datisi]

i like playing with you too.

also i'm not scum.

[Datisi]

may i?

[Datisi]

VOTE: datisi

still town. try not to fuck this up. please.

pedit: pp/maria as first guesses, ss/a50 second. idk.

[Datisi]

sweet pagetop.

[Datisi]

fuck it's already 5am, and now i'm gonna be awake for longer reading the dead thread... rip my sleep.

[Datisi]

have fun.

[Datisi]

i don't troll in twilight.

[Datisi]

If you aren’t scum that was a dumb move.

i mean, everyone was calling for my head and nobody even cared to engage me. there's only one way this day ends.

[Datisi]

i was thinking of claiming scum in twilight to be fair...

[Datisi]

If you aren’t scum that was a dumb move.

i mean, everyone was calling for my head and nobody even cared to engage me. there's only one way this day ends.

self-vote is a bit faster to type than "yo pp can you hammer pls"
It’s almost if forcing people to vote what they say is a good idea.

[Datisi]

i fucked that quote up. i need sleep.

[Datisi]

considering i just got lynched for apparently being obvscum... not really.

[Datisi]

that was @Mena.

[Datisi]

Datisi knows.

<3
i was just about to fall asleep when the hammer dropped, i saw your reaction, turned my phone off and went to sleep thinking "oh cool town won"

also sorry for tunnelling you all game

@mod

, thank you for modding!

gg town, thank you for the carry

[Datisi]

i am very disappointed.