Mafia of Revelations ~ Game Over!

[Untrod Tripod]

yeah I specifically said regardless of alignment for a reason

[Kmd4390]

Then my answer is N/A.

[CantHateAPuppy]

Boy, UT is really not gonna like when I get to the 5th paragraph of my role PM huh

[Untrod Tripod]

Boy, UT is really not gonna like when I get to the 5th paragraph of my role PM huh

I can't stay mad at you

I apologise if I'm coming off as being mad at you personally. It isn't my intention

[VP Baltar]

it is blowing my fucking mind right now that anyone is saying "let's just let this army of trackers be completely useless"

Well yeah, I agree with that. You have to admit though, there is a potential risk, regardless of what you think puppy's alignment is.

And it's even harder if you're asking people who think he is town to just policy yeet him for *fingers crossed*

and you just not bothered at all by the behavior around the four separate installments of claiming this information?

It was certainly not helpful. I'm not sure it is AI.

I think your much better point may actually be this question about puppy thinking everyone wanted random kills. Talk to me more about what you saw in puppy's posts you found scummy

[Vi]

~Vote Count XXXVI:

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Untrod Tripod (R-4)

~

(Gammagooey,)

CantLynchAPuppy, Kmd4390

Kmd4390 (R-5)

~ Blair,

(Green Crayons)

Blair (R-5)

~

(Green Crayons,)

Hoopla

CantLynchAPuppy (R-5)

~

(Blair,)

Untrod Tripod

Not Roasting:

AGar, Starbuck, xRECKONERx, VP Baltar, Gammagooey, Green Crayons

--With 11 alive, it will take 6 votes to roast a player.
--Deadline is at 21:00 on Wednesday, 22 July 2020.

(5 days left)

[Hoopla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KMD

[Gammagooey]

I think I'm ok with either a Kmd or a Puppy yeet at this point. You can pretend my vote's on Kmd for now and I'll prob actually vote him sometime tomorrow but I want to give AGar his time to read up and everyone else the time to talk out anything they want to before the yeetening

The main thing that I'm worried about for a Kmd lynch is the possibility of scumteam being some pairing of Reck/UT/Hoopla. AGar and GC I'm pretty damn confident are both town (GC's day 3 posting directed towards Kmd feels very good looking back on it too) and I'm slightly more worried about VPB being potential scum tracker than either of them but every time I go back to look at VPB it feels a lot more like just dumb paranoia on my part than a real possibility of him being scum.

Kmd's suspicion of Puppy through d3 and today does feel weird. He is a more passive player as both alignments than myself or a lot of other players here I think, but his stated read on Puppy really hasn't felt like it's had any conviction behind it - me and Puppy being scum together would make a TON of sense together from his perspective, and tbf he does mention it at least, but he doesn't vote me after tracking me to the kill but before Puppy explained that the mechanic would make me not likely-scum for that. And going from thinking he's increasingly making up things for Puppy's revelation to believing it as soon as Puppy says that yeeting him will make the Vi-kill mechanic stop makes sense logically but not really emotionally - it's hard to imagine him being convinced the other way from just that instead of thinking that there's at least a chance of it being WIFOM that Puppy's admitting that killing his role might be a good thing.

Last thing for now is that I might have to re-evaluate UT being scum if Kmd flips scum? Atm I think it's still plausible since I don't see UT even mention Kmd until day 2 and he started pushing Kmd when Kmd made a bad post about IAAU/UT being scum but Kmd and UT voting each other today does at least make me want to not vote UT over Kmd today when Kmd feels more likely to be scum now.

[Kmd4390]

Gamma, it was a weird situation because you/puppy was my best guess for scum but puppy was confirmable and if puppy was confirmed you no longer made sense as scum. That's why I wasn't pushing it hard or anything. I wanted to give it a night and see if I was wrong. With puppy basically offering up his life, it looks like I was wrong.

[Gammagooey]

Gamma, it was a weird situation because you/puppy was my best guess for scum but puppy was confirmable and if puppy was confirmed you no longer made sense as scum. That's why I wasn't pushing it hard or anything. I wanted to give it a night and see if I was wrong. With puppy basically offering up his life, it looks like I was wrong.

Why's that? After the explanation Puppy-town could just mean that I was very unlucky scum with someone else if the kill was randomized, and before the explanation yeah he did imply that it was tracker & Vi related, but you not assuming that I was just scum there and voting me makes some amount of sense but still feels pretty weird to me.

[Kmd4390]

If you mean independent of the track, I've been townreading your slot

[Untrod Tripod]

but his stated read on Puppy really hasn't felt like it's had any conviction behind it

it reads to me like he's just sorta claiming suspicion for the person he thinks is the most likely to be yeeted

[Blair]

but his stated read on Puppy really hasn't felt like it's had any conviction behind it

it reads to me like he's just sorta claiming suspicion for the person he thinks is the most likely to be yeeted

+1

[Kmd4390]

Wouldn't that have been Blair at the time I was calling a gamma/puppy team?

[Gammagooey]

If you mean independent of the track, I've been townreading your slot

I get that, but I tracked IAAU while thinking they were more likely town than not and still would have voted for them if I tracked them to the kill before Puppy's explanation

I feel like this isn't going to go anywhere so I've got some other stuff for ya if you don't mind answering it.

You're voting UT at the moment - how confident are you in that read? Do you think that other people (let's say not including me) agree that he's likely to be scum? Is there any particular post or set of posts or behavior from UT that you think is much more likely to come from scum than town, and do you think the other people suspicious of UT think he's scummy for the same reason(s) you do?

[AGar]

Perilously close to a prod.

Still on that re-read. Seeing the KMD/CLAP as the substance of a UT push is... it's fucking lol.

[Vi]

~Vote Count XXXVII:

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Untrod Tripod (R-4)

~ CantLynchAPuppy, Kmd4390

Kmd4390 (R-4)

~ Blair, Hoopla

CantLynchAPuppy (R-5)

~ Untrod Tripod

Blair (R-6)

~

(Hoopla)

Not Roasting:

AGar, Starbuck, xRECKONERx, VP Baltar, Gammagooey, Green Crayons

-Starbuck is being prodded...

--With 11 alive, it will take 6 votes to roast a player.
--Deadline is at 21:00 on Wednesday, 22 July 2020.

(4 days left)

[Starbuck]

Hi, sorry, I've been out in the great outdoors for the past two days. Expect content tomorrow. I forgot to hit the V/LA button.

[AGar]

@CLAP

Want to clarify something - does your role PM gives you any indication that scum would have known about the kill prior to the resolution of N1 actions? I believe you've alluded it's no but I'm not certain and a read on a D1 event hinges somewhat on this.

[CantHateAPuppy]

your role PM gives you any indication that scum would have known about the kill prior to the resolution of N1 actions? I believe you've alluded it's no but I'm not certain and a re

i can't parse this, can u try asking again? if you mean "how much do you know scum know," i have very little idea (which is one reason why drip dropping my information is objectively good, haha haters)

[Blair]

Wouldn't that have been Blair at the time I was calling a gamma/puppy team?

I voted for Puppy before this Calamity Trigger nonsense started. A Puppy yeet was far from likely or opportunistic then.

Try again.

[AGar]

your role PM gives you any indication that scum would have known about the kill prior to the resolution of N1 actions? I believe you've alluded it's no but I'm not certain and a re

i can't parse this, can u try asking again? if you mean "how much do you know scum know," i have very little idea (which is one reason why drip dropping my information is objectively good, haha haters)

Does your role PM give any indication that scum could have been aware of the wonky kill mechanic at the outset?

[Kmd4390]

If you mean independent of the track, I've been townreading your slot

You're voting UT at the moment - how confident are you in that read?

I'm somewhat confident.

Do you think that other people (let's say not including me) agree that he's likely to be scum?

Doesn't seem like it. Any time anyone has tried voting him it hasn't gone anywhere

Is there any particular post or set of posts or behavior from UT that you think is much more likely to come from scum than town,

Mainly his actions around flipped scum, especially farside.

and do you think the other people suspicious of UT think he's scummy for the same reason(s) you do?

No.

I voted for Puppy before this Calamity Trigger nonsense started. A Puppy yeet was far from likely or opportunistic then.

Try again.

That's... Exactly what I'm saying. UT was calling my puppy suspicion opportunistic and I was saying opportunistic scum would have been voting you, not puppy .

[Vi]

xRECKONERx is being prodded...

[Gammagooey]

VOTE: Kmd4390