Open 787 || Lovers Mafia — Game Over

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you're town, you could try actually scumhunting.

Isn't that what i'm doing? Oh well, keep pushing false premises. Night sweetie.

[innocentvillager]

For example. I'm stating that if i were scum here, you could expect me to agree on you that one of Deimos/Nash are scum. And then i'd push for the one of them i know isn't town. But here i'm not wanting to vote either of them, because we don't know which one of them it is.

you said yourself that there is no way to distinguish between them because they haven't posted, how would scum!you even push "one of them"?? this makes no sense

+1

i want a response to this

[Battle Mage]

norwee, with all due respect, ur arguments r insanely weak
bms meta has been on point, we need 100% town vote to lynch from the nature of the game so it is necessary to gather every support possible, u asked for my opinion when the only possible bad scenario is me trying to become unrelated to the hammer of a town from town persepective, when the most profitable alternative is getting towncred by the defense of the rashness by other town
well, nothing will change the fact that BM has his target, and I rly dnt think that innocent villager will change his mind at some point; that by itself is already damning, if anyone of em is town, cause that means we have 100% of a townhammer this round.

its a hole for both town and scum. The thing is that this kind of scenario has a possible alternative; death by overpush, where the arguments given become increasingly weaker and the idea that we r lynching scum and u r trying to ditch a defense becomes more and more plausible, in a self feeding loop. But given the evidence, and bc this is just a game, i rly would go for the hammer a priori.

thats what I mean.

and yes, u r right with ur probabilities; the state of the game pushes it that way.
but it is a fallacy to work only with raw probabilities; none of us have strong connections to each other by attitude. the fact we default to nash and deimos is not due to simple probabilities to defaulting on ppl who dnt talk, but by making connections with already aquired knowledge. its simply how the game developed.

(answering the previous questions)

this is a high quality post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Something i had to ask.
(From phone in bed)

@Word321 Are you familiar with BM’s town meta? Are you seeing it here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, thinking about it. BM did vote Deimos in RVS. So unless that was an RVS buss. BM/Nash seems like the most likely team.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Either way, i’d always advocate BM because that’s a bigger chance than guessing from the 2 unsorted slots.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not that a BM/Word team is impossible. But once again, previous logic apply.

[word321]

on BMs meta:
yeah, I am
i think he is also aware of it
but ive seen some times now both in games with him and previous metareads on other occasions that focusing and dismantling like he is doing rn is pretty much part of the core of his meta
I dnt always agree with it, the level of confidence in being scum either dnt need to be that high or he has other ways of evaluating slots that i dnt see (i think he is pretty confident himself this time tho), but its just like that
I also think he plays with the notion of being a "suicidal" kind of player and making "blatant mistakes" to bait scum push opportunities, but I havent seen it here this time (exept perhaps the im town sheep me).
Either way, i think he is quite aware of his meta; but he DEFONETELY aint playing to his scum meta, and thats the point.

[word321]

i think thats it for today for me

[Battle Mage]

If you're town, you could try actually scumhunting.

Isn't that what i'm doing? Oh well, keep pushing false premises. Night sweetie.

I haven't seen you push 1 possible scum, despite your relentless spamming. it's a poor rate of return.

[Battle Mage]

Something i had to ask.
(From phone in bed)

@Word321 Are you familiar with BM’s town meta? Are you seeing it here?

word is a smart dude, and he's actually seen me as town. unlike you.

also word is reminding me of the same solving style he used as town in our last game together.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you're town, you could try actually scumhunting.

Isn't that what i'm doing? Oh well, keep pushing false premises. Night sweetie.

I haven't seen you push 1 possible scum, despite your relentless spamming. it's a poor rate of return.

From your POV.
- you townread Word/IV

That leaves Deimos/Nausi or whatever his name was.
Are you aware that these players haven’t posted once and aren’t online? You’re basically saying that unless i’d "pushed" a slot with no content as scum. (Which is fucking laughable) i’m not town from your POV. Which just shows you aren’t genuine at all.

[innocentvillager]

For example. I'm stating that if i were scum here, you could expect me to agree on you that one of Deimos/Nash are scum. And then i'd push for the one of them i know isn't town. But here i'm not wanting to vote either of them, because we don't know which one of them it is.

you said yourself that there is no way to distinguish between them because they haven't posted, how would scum!you even push "one of them"?? this makes no sense

+1

i want a response to this

now i definitely want a response to this

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because one could make up association tells.

[innocentvillager]

Because one could make up association tells.

can you make up a post that scum!you would write to plausibly try and push one of them? just try. if scum!you can do it then town!you can do it too. i just don't think this makes any sense

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alright, then i guess it doesn’t make sense.

[innocentvillager]

so you admit your defense doesn't work?

[Nash]

Hey! That's a lot of posts, catching up.

[innocentvillager]

nah you didn’t miss much

we’ve just caught your partner and need you or Deimos to sheep us but I doubt you will :/

[innocentvillager]

Actually idk I’m kinda townreading Nash now, maybe it’s Deimos-Norway?

[Nash]

C'mon guys, innocentvillager is Baby Bear just look at his pfp.
Sorry it has to end like this IV, not your fault I'm this good

[Nash]

Actually idk I’m kinda townreading Nash now, maybe it’s Deimos-Norway?

Why? This makes me TL you, scum would try to be logical in their approach.

[innocentvillager]

did you read the thread? what are your thoughts on the thread so far?

[Nash]

did you read the thread? what are your thoughts on the thread so far?

Not yet. But I think a correct townblock of two will win us the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

so you admit your defense doesn't work?

One of my 100 lines of defense? Sure.