Open 787 || Lovers Mafia — Game Over

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh boy. I can’t wait for my "scum partner" to show up.

[Nash]

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(17)- Scummy unsolicited claim given NEE's TR in (11).

[-IV]

(18)- Similar to (17)

[-NEE]

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(31)- Likely associative with D27 because the start is obvious WIFOM. Attempt to rule out {D27, IV} with the vote on D27, or other possible bus attempts.

[-IV]

(34)- Bad follow up to (31). That's a lot of weight to a random wagon.

{-D27/IV}

(35)- What about D27?

{-D27/NEE}

(36)- If your reads are based on the last-seen times, I don't think they hold any value.
(42)- Serves only as shade for ignoring WIFOM?

[-IV]

(47)- What part of his play is town indicative?
(49)- Surface level scummy.

[+W321]

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(51)- Reflects almost no paranoia.

[-IV]

(58)- Wolfy self meta.

[-NEE]

(64)- Why not? It's sub-optimal as scum to close options like this.

[+IV]

(66)- Townpings. I think it's likelier for scum to pick a side and pursue that instead of analysing both sides of the argument.

[+W321]

(68)- Why do you think so BM? This looks opportunistic unless you have solid analysis like in our last game.

{+BM/NEE}

(70)- I don't follow, your reads so far have been based off of possibilities and not probabilities. Further shade on ignoring WIFOM aspects of the game?

[-IV]

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(75)- Shade on NEE's reasonable progression?

[-IV]

{-W321/IV}

(76)- Scummy vote on the wagon.

[-W321]

(78)- Why do you think BM sheeped? Reads OMGUSsy

[-NEE]

{+BM/NEE}

(80)- Townpings.

[+BM]

(98)- I agree with it being a bad push, but your reaction reads way too AtEy

[-NEE]

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(102)- Did scum!you realize it was a bad push to start with? 'LOL' defence.

[-W321]

(108)- Downplaying your scumreads?

[-NEE]

(112)- Defensive without actually being defensive.

[-NEE]

(113)-

{+BM/NEE}

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(141)- Why is it impossible? Contradictory play.

[-NEE]

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(151)- Slip?

[-NEE]

(168)-

{+W321/NEE}

(174)- But this setup is different, scum can't afford a death. Your defence for being defensive about how you are defensive as either alignment isn't entirely valid.

Assume a ghost vote on NEE.
FMPOV D27 is most likely to be scum, regardless of NEE's alignment.
And I would love to hear his thoughts on how the game has run so far.
VOTE: Deimos27

IV isn't in a great position either. I don't get the townreads on that slot.

[innocentvillager]

huh that was a weird analysis, idk I feel like going +/- on every post for each person doesn’t really tell us much about that persons alignment

[innocentvillager]

like the sheer number imbalance of +/- doesn’t really tell us much about how the slot looks as a whole

[Deimos27]

I have arrived

[Deimos27]

Sorry for the late entrance, I'm coming in off a V/LA. Good to see 10 pages already. I'll skim as much as I can real quick but it's already quite late at night here.

[Deimos27]

I love this playerlist

[Deimos27]

innocentvillager's playstyle is hilarious, but I must say it at least seems effective at getting the game out of RVS

With that said, i think your way of playing is town indicative

"Way of playing" implies that you townread the playstyle. But a playstyle this unique needs to be consistent between alignments, so I'm surprised you can tr what iv has shown here with no consideration to meta

[Deimos27]

should I sl u for this?

+town for resonance
But why do you vote Nash rather than Norwee here?

[Deimos27]

the point of this game is to be more certain and reduce the amount of uncertainty. It's certainty scummy to cast doubt and just keep every possibility open because this is a scum!motivation not a town!motivation

IV: makes low info super low prob reads
Norwee: calls him out
IV: surprised pikachu

I respect that IV tried to find reads out of the low probability phase in this game, but the idea that town should increase certainty is absolute nonsense. Mafia is probabilistic, and reads should reflect that fact. If available information suggests a 40% chance X is scum, but Y says it's 75%, then it is

pro-town

for X to reduce certainty by disagreeing with Y and arguing that it is 40%, so that town has more

accurate

reads by which to maximise their EV.

This is a rubbish reason to scumread Norwee. And you straw man him heavily with "to cast doubt and just keep every possibility open".

[Deimos27]

Spoiler:

UNVOTE:

what the actual fuck

oh fine, I thought it was a hammer.

Norweg looking real scummy here so far. Trying to cover for his lurker buddy Deimos.

VOTE: Norweg

Lmao.
VOTE: Battle Mage

If i’m lynched my guess is that Battle Mage + whichever one of Nash/Deimos hammers is scum.

Page 4 and you're out of ideas already? Damn dude!

VOTE: Norweg

Let's do this!!

This progression does not compute

[Deimos27]

Norwee got to L-1 far too quickly for reasons far too weak.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee got to L-1 far too quickly for reasons far too weak.

Finally someone reasonable joined the game!
I’m in love!!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Listen to this. How does a Battle Mage/Nash team sound? BM is surface level scummy AF, while Nash seems to be keeping his options open and playing with an agenda. He claims to scumread IV but "puts ghost vote" on Norwee.

[NorwegianboyEE]

FMPOV D27 is most likely to be scum, regardless of NEE's alignment.

This is also completely stupid. "Scum regardless of my alignment". I laugh.

[Deimos27]

oh fine, I thought it was a hammer.

Why would you unvote if you thought it was a hammer? That wouldn’t change anything.

how could it possibly have been a hammer when we have 4 people and Norweeg obviously didn't vote himself, feels like a basic sanity check

Two reasons to doubt that BM genuinely mistook that for a hammer. The unvote comes off as bad acting due to reason 1. Reason 2 gives a cognitive mechanism as to why players are more likely to notice that it was only L-1 than they are not to.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re like the knight in shining armor. Coming in to save the day at the last second Deimos.
There’s no doubt in my eyes we’re both town here. If you were scum you could easily keep up the momentum on this shitpush.

[Deimos27]

Listen to this. How does a Battle Mage/Nash team sound? BM is surface level scummy AF, while Nash seems to be keeping his options open and playing with an agenda. He claims to scumread IV but "puts ghost vote" on Norwee.

I'll let you know what I think of Nash when I get to a single Nash post. I haven't read his post on this page but I do see that it concludes with a vote on me, which is very ? ? ?

[NorwegianboyEE]

They’ve been bullying me Deimos. They’ve been SOOO mean against me. *sob* *hic* uuu...

[Deimos27]

You're pretty null to me so far Norwee but the push on you as of page 4 is so horrendous that it's more likely there's scum on that than that all three other townies apart from myself accurately identified scum!Norwee off little to no evidence and decided to instant wagon it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My townblock is Deimos/Word321/Innocentvillager

Lockscum: Battle Mage and Nash

GG

[Deimos27]

I do have to sleep now. Please don't generate another 10 pages overnight.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just sleep.
Game is already solved. Both scum has been caught.

[Dannflor]

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[Dannflor]

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