thinktank's singling me out to agree with gives me an odd feeling...
Artem wrote:I'm not seeing where he's asking for a deadline. I'm seeing where he's wondering if there is a deadline, but given his vote lead, that's kind of understandable, don't you think?
Post 74 asks about a deadline and he was told the mod will impose one if there is a lack of activity. It is the phrasing that matters in post 134. He asks the mod if he's "imposing a deadline for Day 1" which sounds like he knows there is a deadline and is asking if the mod is going to do it (as well as a bit of slight pressure for the mod to do it) rather than "are we currently under deadline?"
Artem wrote:And what's wrong with FoSing four people after doing my read-through? Also, why is it that when somebody even as much as uses the words "cop" or "doc", somebody else immediately jumps on them yelling "FISHING!". Did you even read the point I was making or do you honestly expect the real cop to come out and claim after reading my post?
The point was that there was no reason at all to include this sentence on what you think the cop would or would not do, "If this wasn't day 1, I'd say that it's a cop telling us to back off an investigated townie." And obviously the point of fishing isn't to get a power role to come out and blatantly claim; that's demanding a claim, not fishing. Fishing is looking for reactions to a statement about a power role to get a better gauge on who the power roles are.
Artem wrote:I also don't understand what you are referring to by RandomGem's "many other contributions". Looking over his posts, all I'm seeing are some questions, joke comments and a brief FoS of owsianko's vote/unvote and your aggressiveness. Then I come along and put some pressure on him so he's also got a few defense posts. He's done no scumhunting other than to call himself out for lurking. He's also one of the three currently not voting, the other two being a lurker/inactive player and a guy that agrees with everything you've said so far a 100%. RandomGem looks to me like a player who's just coasting along. Still think my reasons are crappy?
Ok, "many other contributions" was a bad choice of wording. What I was trying to say was RandomGem has done many other things that I've noted down and I didn't like your pointing out something as trivial as that which I saw nothing into as a reason. Lurking in plain sight and slipping by is a much better reason to be voting someone but you didn't state that originally (or at least not clearly enough for me)
thinktank wrote:Predicting scum tactics gets into the WIFOM argument area and does nothing to actually catch scum because its all just speculation. At best is does nothing to help town, at worst it helps scum.
^^
The only time predicting scum tactics should be done at all is when looking at the subtle things that someone probably wouldn't have given much, if any, thought about. For blatant things like a claim, it is never helpful. Don't judge his alignment from his claim; judge his claim's truthiness from your read of his alignment.
Predicting scum tactics is newbieness, not scumminess.
Also, I didn't even realize Sion was
in the game at all
when I made my last post. Add him to the list of people I'd be fine with voting and I agree with a prod on him. In fact, judging by the fact that I have a mostly town vibe from the current discussion, that raises Sion's chances of being scum for me considerably by process of elimination, unlike some games where almost everybody is a suspect and I'm willing to cut lurkers some slack in the scumminess department.
:sadtorch Ken Hoang, A.D/Fuzzie, Cameron Ferris, Taj Johnson-George, Annie Duke, Patti Blagojevich, Maria/Tiffany :sadtorch
:torch Tammy/Victor, Dan/Jordan
) At any rate, my analysis was more revealing what I personally would do, and not exactly a prediction of other people.