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[bob3141]

Okay, so why is test better than bob?

Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?

See these are comments that scum make. Scum when they have two town wagosn always talk about this one or that one.

Hey everyone, guess who I'm impersonating:

"Both the leading wagons are town. But scum won't join them to push them over the edge for like 20 pages now.

LOGICCCCCCC IS KINNNNNNGGGGGG"

So who do you think is scum on each of teh wagosn when they were tied

[VP Baltar]

If i survive to d2 ill go for vp's head if u flip town bob and thats on period T

Totally down for this. I'm very confident at this point Bob is flipping red.

Scum NPOM is coming for me tonight. Calling it now.

[DkKoba]

Okay, so why is test better than bob?

Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?

See these are comments that scum make. Scum when they have two town wagosn always talk about this one or that one.

Hey everyone, guess who I'm impersonating:

"Both the leading wagons are town. But scum won't join them to push them over the edge for like 20 pages now.

LOGICCCCCCC IS KINNNNNNGGGGGG"

Occams razor is hard

[bob3141]

and how many. and why.

Dou think teh wagon was all town or scum heavy.

[DkKoba]

Can somebody please point where I said I would have been happy to vote for a PR claim? You’re the one that reeks of Scum making broad generalizations without even reading the game. A PR claim near death (particularly unprompted because nobody indicated they would hammer) would have been suspicious, and could have accelerated momentum against them. This also could be entirely related to site meta. Whatever.

So if teh slot i had repped into had been a town pr rather than a vt. And snow had claimed that would you have still wanted him day one?

[VP Baltar]

if everyone wasn't on V/LA pretending they don't have crippling internet additions, we'd already be in twilight. Sad.

Bob, you should give your opinions on your PoE pool so we can make associations after you're gone.

[bob3141]

if everyone wasn't on V/LA pretending they don't have crippling internet additions, we'd already be in twilight. Sad.

Bob, you should give your opinions on your PoE pool so we can make associations after you're gone.

dakota, vp bakter, Alduskkel, Andresvmb, powers, jankofan

Hard scum leans on vp baker and and.


rest most likely town.




And if i was scum you would always get the wrong scum associations Good thing im town

[Testarossa]

Apologies, was on weekend shift and thought I could handle it. In hindsight I should have just gone v/la, totally underestimated the flow of the games on weekends here. Give me a short while, I am roughly 20 pages behind.

[bob3141]

Okay, so why is test better than bob?

Of test and Bob, who do you prefer eliminating?

See these are comments that scum make. Scum when they have two town wagosn always talk about this one or that one.

Hey everyone, guess who I'm impersonating:

"Both the leading wagons are town. But scum won't join them to push them over the edge for like 20 pages now.

LOGICCCCCCC IS KINNNNNNGGGGGG"

Occams razor is hard

If town then you just cant read game state.


Scum dont pile up if they dont have to. Snow claimed vt so you need to look at who tried to run others up. Why would scum do this, why to get claims.

means the test wagon was prob scum motivated. Shift two wagons into tvt and at worst you get oen lynched and at best you get two claims and one town dead.

[bob3141]

While the fact the snow wagon didnt break up implies that atleast one scum was still on it at the point test was getting run up. Now it might have only been one from the start. But fact test got run up with out an extra vote on snow for 2 days. Means scum didnt want snow lynched at that point. That they wanted more claims. If test had been scum then the snow would have got back up to l-1. No way scum would act idle if a counter wagon formed on their buddy.

Scum on wagon act as glue. The higth teh town to scum ratio on wagon the more likely it breaks up.

[bob3141]

And what was test wagon

DkKoba, Alduskkel, Andresvmb, NoPowerOverMe, jankofan

atleast 2 in there

[DkKoba]

i led the test wagon, was it scum motivated?

[bob3141]

most certainly. It wouldnt not built up as much. If your town then look for those that went along with it

[DkKoba]

why was it scum motived?

[bob3141]

You have

Alduskkel, Andresvmb, NoPowerOverMe, jankofan

If test was scum. Would all 4 of them really have joined. More likely you would have had those that are scum joining my wagon at that point

[VP Baltar]

If test was scum. Would all 4 of them really have joined. More likely you would have had those that are scum joining my wagon at that point

Good argument for Bob scum here.

[bob3141]

why was it scum motived?

Do you town read all those that joined you?


Your claimign you think im scum. Yet only one from that wagon has joined you. And that was after you left.

[bob3141]

If test was scum. Would all 4 of them really have joined. More likely you would have had those that are scum joining my wagon at that point

Good argument for Bob scum here.

So are you sayign you agree with me that test is town?

If so why are you claiming this affects my slot. And why if you think 2 of them are scum that they simply wouldnt bus.



Read my scum games. Do you realy think this is scum me?

[bob3141]

You see if you want a player lynched as scum. You dont join the wagon. You form a counter wagon on another townie.

Best case you get that player lynched and teh original player lynched the next day. At worst they cause that original player to get lynched.

And not forgetting the chance to get more claims to help pr hunting

[bob3141]

@datisi Ok I guess? still feels like a reach but w/e i cant really say im familiar enough with the game that i know whos sring npom, but its moot anyway because the read isn't faked at all. npom dedicates three posts to talking about how he missed the claim asking snow what it was. my intuitions about time management say that a cursory look at the last page would've been a lot quicker than writing three posts but i could see scum trying to emulate that sense of being idle and casual about the situation.

I'm townreading you because i feel like you're pushing me and it feels like you really want to be right about your take on me and that motivation and the tone that comes with it are obviously town

im pretty sure im still tring snow. of the ppl on snows wagon ico feels a lot like scum and im not sure who else was even on it

see this what scum do.

They town read the original wagon and push the second. All the while scum on the first guy stays put. And you get tvt situation that guarantees a town miskill

[bob3141]

datisi you have my vote

VOTE: jankofan

[bob3141]

the reason he is claimign town read on my slot is that he is trying to weakly white knight. To get him town cred after my slot flip but at the same time not preventing his buddies from get this slot lynched. A move ive pulled a fair few times before but with more activity

[bob3141]

I think the reason I'm tring snow is that she seems like she'a actually introspecting and also that she seems focused on things that people who are solving tend to be focused on

see a defense that will not stop anyone from scum reading the player. A read just to look good post flip.

[bob3141]

VOTE: terra that is E-1

And see this vote that push terra to e-1

[bob3141]

Hey @datisi so the reason I neglected to answer this

i'm not sure i get this? like to me it feels ico is solving and it also focused on the persons pushing them? like can you elaborate on this?

also, you're townreading me, yeah? (i'm assuming by 436) how come, i feel like our reads are complete polar oppsoites right now?

was because koba said this immediately after

ico exhibiting the scum mindset of being frustrated over being scumread over what they perceive as the "wrong reasons"

which is what I was trying and failing to say in the original post you quoted. I guess it was lazy of me to have expected you to make that connection and it looks like you just wanted a response from me and not necessarily a response to what you were asking me to clarify, so here it is.
jumped on the testa wagon because it seemed good and i didn't really have that much to add to the case so why talk for no reason yknow

see the first he realy said on teh slot was post vote. And no pointed did he realy give a reason not to vote my slot. Just a weak reason to town read it.