Open 789: Two-Fold 2d3 [Game Over]

[Hiraki]

What is it in the 5 posts that I made after receiving my role PM that you believe was so strongly scum indicative?

Why do you care? You're already calling me scum, right?

I mean, yes, I am, but I think if I’m wrong and you’re town that the best chance of me realising that will be if I can see how you got to where you are even if you’re wrong

Which has nothing to do with why you're voting me, okay okay

pre-Edit: you literally gave out a forced readslist lol, very NAI

[TripleHaven]

What is it in the 5 posts that I made after receiving my role PM that you believe was so strongly scum indicative?

Why do you care? You're already calling me scum, right?

Okay, *i'm* going to ask now:
what in mena's 5 posts did you believe to be so strongly scum indicative?

[Menalque]

What is it in the 5 posts that I made after receiving my role PM that you believe was so strongly scum indicative?

Why do you care? You're already calling me scum, right?

I mean, yes, I am, but I think if I’m wrong and you’re town that the best chance of me realising that will be if I can see how you got to where you are even if you’re wrong

Which has nothing to do with why you're voting me, okay okay

pre-Edit: you literally gave out a forced readslist lol, very NAI

Which was p clearly a joke and explained as such?

[Hiraki]

jokes are usually funny

[Menalque]

I mean I’m voting you for the reasons I gave, I also find your trajectory and read on me scummy and I don’t see how the one invalidates the other?

[Menalque]

jokes are usually funny

Okay, so you may not have found it funny but that doesn’t explain why it would be scummy?

[Hiraki]

I just said that it was forced

[Menalque]

...but it was a joke, which, again, was explained by the time that you doubled down on your read?

[Hiraki]

I'm still not stuttering

[Menalque]

Okay, but you’re also just not making any sense

Your take is: mena gave a forced readslist, therefore is scum, yes?

Problems

(1) that’s like a really strong take to be pushing as hard as you are

(2) it was a joke, which had already been explained by the time you doubled down on scum!me

(3) in the case that you missed it was a joke/just didn’t find it funny, that still doesn’t explain why you thought it was scummy once it was clear that it was intended as a joke, unless you think that bad jokes = scum in which case I can’t help you bro

[Menalque]

Yo Dann, teacher, haven, dunn — this feels like I’m being dealt with in very bad faith, but I find it hard to judge when I’m the one someone is aiming at

Do you think that’s accurate to what’s happening or am I reading too much into this?

[Marashu]

VOTE: Almost50

Hey marashu, you're mafia or werewolf this time?

With any luck, both of them will fall for the gambler's fallacy and NK me, effectively reducing NKs by 1.

I assume youre just playing along with Gypyx's joke but if not why do you think mafia/werewolf would target the other faction this early?

Partly - it makes sense to me that scum would try to take each other down so they could control the game state, Prisoner's dilemma style. They could hunt PRs, but risk being picked off if the other team isn't doing that.

Considering they just spent 2 pages circle-jerking, I'm not sold.
That and I'm somehow at 5 out of 4, which is an issue.

vote: TripleHaven

Also teacher and marashu, with one of Dann or Menalque, not sure which since they're both spamming banter rn.

Mind explaining the read on teacher and myself?

VOTE: TripleHaven

I didn't like the way she came in (and I remember hearing a stat that new scum have a higher tendency to say a greeting in their first post). Haven't really felt anything towny since.

[Hiraki]

How am I pushing hard again? Last I checked, you wanted to talk about this but I was pretty okay ignoring you. There's a word for this...let me take out my dictionary...

[Menalque]

The... bit where you’ve been repeatedly calling me scum?

[dramonic]

Dram - we are VIBIN this game. Can I take a guess that 94 is the crux of your vote? That's where I got the pings.

All the way to 94? You are slowrollin pal

[Menalque]

Vote: Menalque

One is Menalque, duh.

i've got nothing to say about the above except that it's stupid and the fact that someone voted with scum on that logic is

yikes

i've got nothing to say about the above except that it's stupid and the fact that someone voted with scum on that logic is

yikes

I sincerely hope you aren't referring to my post because this response doesn't make sense if you are.

nah, you didn't vote either. was referring to melanque

I mean...?

[Menalque]

I didn’t say you were getting traction on it, but I think the idea that you haven’t been pushing me is kinda silly

[Menalque]

This is interesting

Why do you say that dramonic?

@dramonic you didn’t answer this other than with a quip, could you do so now?

[dramonic]

Actually it's multiball, so dann/menal could be opposing scum. EXCITING PROSPECTS!

EDIT: ...Why?

[TripleHaven]

Yo Dann, teacher, haven, dunn — this feels like I’m being dealt with in very bad faith, but I find it hard to judge when I’m the one someone is aiming at

Do you think that’s accurate to what’s happening or am I reading too much into this?

yes its accurate

[Menalque]

Because I’d made very few posts at that point and want you to justify why you were saying you thought I was probably scum

[TripleHaven]

VOTE: Almost50

Hey marashu, you're mafia or werewolf this time?

With any luck, both of them will fall for the gambler's fallacy and NK me, effectively reducing NKs by 1.

I assume youre just playing along with Gypyx's joke but if not why do you think mafia/werewolf would target the other faction this early?

Partly - it makes sense to me that scum would try to take each other down so they could control the game state, Prisoner's dilemma style. They could hunt PRs, but risk being picked off if the other team isn't doing that.

Considering they just spent 2 pages circle-jerking, I'm not sold.
That and I'm somehow at 5 out of 4, which is an issue.

vote: TripleHaven

Also teacher and marashu, with one of Dann or Menalque, not sure which since they're both spamming banter rn.

Mind explaining the read on teacher and myself?

VOTE: TripleHaven

I didn't like the way she came in (and I remember hearing a stat that new scum have a higher tendency to say a greeting in their first post). Haven't really felt anything towny since.

I'm not new scum, have played 30+ games on MU (4/5 scum winrate btw... please don't ask about my town winrate) Also that stat is dumb even if I was new scum.

[Hiraki]

The... bit where you’ve been repeatedly calling me scum?

So - let's be clear. Even though you believed that there was nothing substantial behind it -

But using only in-game material, you having a strong scumread on me that you’ve reiterated from what are 5 very NAI posts from me is Not A Good Look

You decided to say that me calling you scum 4 times was a "hard" push? What exactly constitutes as a "soft" push then? Is it when you just think about the person?

Still looking in my dictionary btw - I think the word is operational. Hmm...no, that's not it. I'm almost there.

[Dannflor]

Yo Dann, teacher, haven, dunn — this feels like I’m being dealt with in very bad faith, but I find it hard to judge when I’m the one someone is aiming at

Do you think that’s accurate to what’s happening or am I reading too much into this?

I think he has the highest chance of flipping scum right now. His reaction to the two of us voting him is the most egregious post I think.

Right now, I think he's reached a point where he initially latched on to something to scum read, realized it wasn't as damning as he initially thought it was, but now doesn't know how to back down from that without looking more scummy. It's possible that comes from awkward/stubborn town, particularly one that has a philosophy of not interacting with scum reads?? But with #98 I rather doubt it.

[dramonic]

ITT salt about being caught for the wrong reason.