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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 747, Green Crayons wrote:i stopped complaining about the text because it's seriously annoying as fuck, but i'm not going to whine about it, and as I mentioned before I change to my laptop to read this thread instead of my phone because it only hurts my eyes on my phone and not laptop
Yeah, that wasn't a serious read. I was kidding around about Norwee's theory making both of us demons
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:34 am

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For whatever it's worth Cthylla I think Walter is my vote going into the next hell phase.
Although I guess like everything it depends on the next flip
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:35 am

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In post 749, Cthylla wrote:
In post 745, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:That thought mirrors exactly what I am thinking Norwee.
Why the long post from Gc out of nowhere?
At this point a gc flip would be quite informative in my opinion.
This is scummy and +equity with GC. Green Crayons is heavened and flips demon, and Walter can justify pushing for me the next day.
Reason why I like it from Norwee is because he posts it as a possibility and in a natural way to talk about.

Walter instead sheeps it and acts like it's a lot more concrete, implying we should flip GC for information, so that he can push me tomorrow.
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:36 am

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I'm town

I have this small fear there is a team like Isis/Norwee/Walter

and Cythylla vs. GC is actually town versus town

Like a lot of the posts or fallacies they are making that people are calling scummy or problematic aren't necessarily scummy, they're just flawed arguments

and I feel like the game is slightly pushing a narrative of one of those two or both being scum? but that could be a misread
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:36 am

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In post 748, Hayasaka wrote:
Isis, Dannflor are you 2 town? We can play like the dance game again and be an unstoppable force. That was a fun game.
Ok hectic if I was scum and I wanted to pocket people it would look something like this :starmie:
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:37 am

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Don't get me wrong I think walter is scum but he has managed to land his way into every single team callout.
My fear of Isis is solely based on my fear that Walter is flipping scum.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:38 am

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should I be more paranoid about Hayasaka than I am? I feel very unparanoid about that slot but I can't point to a specific thing to be like "that's why I'm so confident"
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 754, Isis wrote:
In post 748, Hayasaka wrote:
Isis, Dannflor are you 2 town? We can play like the dance game again and be an unstoppable force. That was a fun game.
Ok hectic if I was scum and I wanted to pocket people it would look something like this :starmie:
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:39 am

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In post 645, Cthylla wrote:Spinning this to look scummy is also demonic. Why don't I just do the things clidd likes to see come from town then? I've done it before, most recently in that 3 scum in one hood game, if you remember that clidd.
Because you aren't being read town. When scum can't play town, they say how they would and point out they aren't.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:40 am

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In post 753, Dannflor wrote:I'm town

I have this small fear there is a team like Isis/Norwee/Walter

and Cythylla vs. GC is actually town versus town

Like a lot of the posts or fallacies they are making that people are calling scummy or problematic aren't necessarily scummy, they're just flawed arguments

and I feel like the game is slightly pushing a narrative of one of those two or both being scum? but that could be a misread
I was trying to be clear that I was musing on the theory of how it would work if you knew one of two people was scum without subscribing to the theory, almost named the players Alice and Bob but thought it wouldn't be as clear

I agree that I don't actually see any kind of SvT *indicators*.

In a 5:3 any two people talking probably happen to be SvT like 40% of the time. Maybe 60?
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:41 am

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In post 731, Cthylla wrote:What about the actual reasoning in the post?
Your reasoning is that I'm playing bad because I'm reading what you're doing as surface level.

the point you made is that "hey look guys GC is playing bad." I responded to it.

the surface level slight doesn't have legs. I think you're scum. I think scum would WIFOM a teammate into their heaven pool. Because I can't figure out who that'd be between clidd and Dann, the safe play is to not have either of them go to heaven. There are other good heaven candidates.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:42 am

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In post 750, Cthylla wrote:
In post 747, Green Crayons wrote:i stopped complaining about the text because it's seriously annoying as fuck, but i'm not going to whine about it, and as I mentioned before I change to my laptop to read this thread instead of my phone because it only hurts my eyes on my phone and not laptop
Yeah, that wasn't a serious read. I was kidding around about Norwee's theory making both of us demons
Acceptable.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:42 am

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In post 756, Dannflor wrote:should I be more paranoid about Hayasaka than I am? I feel very unparanoid about that slot but I can't point to a specific thing to be like "that's why I'm so confident"
Are you up to date? Was you DND game super short? Did you nat20?
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 760, Green Crayons wrote:the surface level slight doesn't have legs. I think you're scum. I think scum would WIFOM a teammate into their heaven pool. Because I can't figure out who that'd be between clidd and Dann, the safe play is to not have either of them go to heaven. There are other good heaven candidates.
I don't necessarily think heavening scum at this point is the end of the world

I think the last run of this setup started with a D1 town hell and a D2 scum heaven and town ended up winning

But it needs to be a slot that probably isn't getting helled otherwise

This is why I favor Isis but maybe more people scum read her than I realize?
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:44 am

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In post 762, Isis wrote:
In post 756, Dannflor wrote:should I be more paranoid about Hayasaka than I am? I feel very unparanoid about that slot but I can't point to a specific thing to be like "that's why I'm so confident"
Are you up to date? Was you DND game super short? Did you nat20?
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:45 am

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In post 743, Dannflor wrote:
In post 733, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 723, Dannflor wrote:Norwee, do you have a read on Cthulu
Mixed, i like the way they are detailing their mindset. But some of their reads i don't really understand, like saying it's scummy that i sniped his alt for example. Or his Isis read.
Also that hammer on Word seemed a bit iffy.
Tbh i've been considering if it's best to heaven GC, and if they're town we hell Hectic tommorow.
Do you think it's most likely they are T/S
Most likely yeah, but when Cthulhu agreed to the idea of heavening GC and then helling him the next day if it flips scum that was a thought that popped up in my head.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:48 am

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In post 749, Cthylla wrote:
In post 745, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:That thought mirrors exactly what I am thinking Norwee.
Why the long post from Gc out of nowhere?
At this point a gc flip would be quite informative in my opinion.
This is scummy and +equity with GC. Green Crayons is heavened and flips demon, and Walter can justify pushing for me the next day.
Who would you be ok with heavening and vice versa out of remaining players?
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:48 am

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Someone died in my DnD session last night.
Was a very sad day ;-;
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:48 am

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He did not nat20...
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:51 am

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In post 763, Dannflor wrote:
In post 760, Green Crayons wrote:the surface level slight doesn't have legs. I think you're scum. I think scum would WIFOM a teammate into their heaven pool. Because I can't figure out who that'd be between clidd and Dann, the safe play is to not have either of them go to heaven. There are other good heaven candidates.
I don't necessarily think heavening scum at this point is the end of the world

I think the last run of this setup started with a D1 town hell and a D2 scum heaven and town ended up winning

But it needs to be a slot that probably isn't getting helled otherwise

This is why I favor Isis but maybe more people scum read her than I realize?
That's fair.

What do you think about Haya or Norwegian?
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:51 am

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Also, are you happy with being heavened?
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:53 am

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In post 769, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 763, Dannflor wrote:
In post 760, Green Crayons wrote:the surface level slight doesn't have legs. I think you're scum. I think scum would WIFOM a teammate into their heaven pool. Because I can't figure out who that'd be between clidd and Dann, the safe play is to not have either of them go to heaven. There are other good heaven candidates.
I don't necessarily think heavening scum at this point is the end of the world

I think the last run of this setup started with a D1 town hell and a D2 scum heaven and town ended up winning

But it needs to be a slot that probably isn't getting helled otherwise

This is why I favor Isis but maybe more people scum read her than I realize?
That's fair.

What do you think about Haya or Norwegian?
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:56 am

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In post 770, Green Crayons wrote:Also, are you happy with being heavened?
I think it's +EV if I am not heavened.

I believe my skillset lies in being obv-town and avoiding getting mis-elimed

My individual read accuracy isn't amazing and I think I produce the best results when I have people to bounce off of.

I dunno I don't think it would be the worst thing but I'd rather heaven other people first and I think I'm more useful here?
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:12 am

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I should explain that my theory sorta relies on haya being town.
My point is that if one scum stayed off wagon that is prob gc or haya but they may have superbussed and I don't know
Although a scum flip would put us at 5 2 instead of 4 3
Eh fuck the numbers game
I also feel that scum may want to push clidd out thread if he is town.
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