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[Cthylla]

VOTE: Dannflor

[Dannflor]

Why not Hayasaka?

[Hayasaka]

My other thing on why I am unsure if I can vote Isis is it's basically what everyone's secondary option is.

yeah this is what keeps giving me the heebie jeebies

I also don't think it's the end of the world if we heaven Isis!scum

but maybe she is not the town read I need to check right now

I am not against sending her to heaven ever based on this read. I am just hesitant to do it right now.
I actually think after we flip our first scum she would be a great target. If we send scum to heaven on the first phase we have to lynch scum otherwise we lose since no one will be able to properly "judge" us.

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[Hayasaka]

My other thing on why I am unsure if I can vote Isis is it's basically what everyone's secondary option is.

yeah this is what keeps giving me the heebie jeebies

I also don't think it's the end of the world if we heaven Isis!scum

but maybe she is not the town read I need to check right now

I am not against sending her to heaven ever based on this read. I am just hesitant to do it right now.
I actually think after we flip our first scum she would be a great target. If we send scum to heaven on the first phase we have to lynch scum otherwise we lose since no one will be able to properly "judge" us.

[Hayasaka]

And we have too much disonnence right now as a town for me to think all 4 of the town can connect in order to achieve a lynch in a lylo situation. I think the fact scum can't just open wolf due to the judgement phase is our only saving grace.

[Dannflor]

are you particularly against or for your own slot going to heaven this phase, Hayasaka?

[clidd]

I don't know why you aren't worried about GC trolling in heaven. He's out of his mind in my opinion.

Green Crayons doesn't troll as town, clidd. He's a fairly serious player.

Any "trolling" you're detecting is scuminess, ya know, because he's a demon. You don't need to make excuses for him.

Hum.

[clidd]

I am becoming more inclined to send to Hayasaka at the moment.

[clidd]

Send to heaven*.

[Dannflor]

yourself or Hayasaka?

[Green Crayons]

I think he's extremely serious this game

I said early on that I wanted Haya but went Dann bc of activity. When you, obv scum acts, muddied the waters about Dann, the easy answer is Haya.

But again: all I did was call Dann town in a throwaway post. The person I gave reasoning for being town and pushed was clidd. That shouldn't be enough to actually influence your read on Dann naturally.

Why are you ignoring how I responded to Dann and explained the difference between who I’m town reading and who I’m putting in the heaven pool?

[clidd]

Playing scum exhausts clidd btw, so he would absolutely be fine with being heavened early as a demon

That's true ... but it's been months. How do you still remember that ?

Pedit: Hayasaka.

[Hayasaka]

are you particularly against or for your own slot going to heaven this phase, Hayasaka?

I don't really want to be responsible to make the judgement vote by myself, but I guess that is kind of a stupid reason.
I have 0 gameplay reason to actually care if I stay in the thread, I think Clidd can carry the thread without me and he doesn't have any reads I hate.

I also just don't want to see our most dominant obvious town Clidd in heaven.
So I guess between me and Clidd I'd pick me.
Between me and someone else I'd need time to think about it. The only people I'd consider are you and GC.
I wasn't wrong to town read you in Trust Fall for a bad hard to explain read but you also could be like Dunnstral where I just town read you every game for how you play.

[Green Crayons]

Also super love the lack of agency you put behind your Dann heaven pick.

Out of the entire player set, you spoke plenty of words about why clidd is super town but then threw Dann in there for funsies.

Uh. Yes. Quite obviously you’re screwing with town by tossing Dann into your 2-person heaven pool.

[Hayasaka]

We need to send town that isn't Clidd to heaven today.
We need to lynch scum tomorrow so we can heaven Isis or GC.
We can send GC to heaven 2nd because he is town and also I or whoever is up their with him can talk to him during judgement day since the main fear is leaving him in heaven alone to just kill Cythlla without a real regard for anything else.

[Green Crayons]

Haya if you’re heavened can you read the thread anew if needed for judgment day? Preferably not actually reading as the game progresses?

That’s all I want from a competent player who I read as v likely town.

[Hayasaka]

To some degree I am very resolved to send GC to heaven 2nd right now.
Dude is clearly town.
That piece of information is not clear to everyone.
If I am wrong I was never lynching him anyway :^)

pedit: I'll probably do both.

[Dannflor]

I'm mostly just confused as to why I'm more town than Hayasaka to Cthulu

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Hayasaka

[Cthylla]

Why not Hayasaka?

Thing is, I haven't seen anything from her that screams town. She just seems fine and generally open. She'd be my 3rd pick.

I'll vote there if there's more support there.

[Dannflor]

I'm just surprised you've seen more from me that seems town than from her. I've posted a lot a lot less than her.

[Cthylla]

Why is Green Crayons clearly town, Hayasaka? Send me back if you've already explained the read.

[Cthylla]

Playing scum exhausts clidd btw, so he would absolutely be fine with being heavened early as a demon

That's true ... but it's been months. How do you still remember that ?

Pedit: Hayasaka.

I don't know, it just stuck with me, especially after you put all the effort into Ultimate Conspiracy to win twice, and were too exhausted for a 3rd round.
You've brought it up a few times in other games too.

[Hayasaka]

Why is Green Crayons clearly town, Hayasaka? Send me back if you've already explained the read.

I could be playing multiple steps above what GC is thinking and am just playing myself.
But if GC is pushing you because he thinks that will help get himself heavened.
Then he either needs to manage to kill you first, and be able to play off your town flip which is an awful line of play.
Or he has to think he can get heavened early, but not only does that mean he has to play off his push on you. But town would also need to accept the fact he is almost always going to kill you in the judgement phase.
I just think if he thought this line through he would never follow through with it.

[Dannflor]

Isis you wouldn’t try to pocket me as scum would you

That would be rather bulli