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[Isis]

I just lost a normal where everyone talked me out of my good reads

[Dannflor]

I just thought of something, what if Cthylla and GC is scum theatre.
After all, this game mode is all about anti-associations between scum.

this post has stuck in my brain for a long time but I decided it's probably not SvS

at least, I don't see it making sense unless a consensus town read like Hayasaka or clidd is scum, which I find unlikely

[Dannflor]

if it's T-T that means the team is exactly walter and norwegian and one of my three town reads and that hurts my feelings and my brain

[NorwegianboyEE]

at least, I don't see it making sense unless a consensus town read like Hayasaka or clidd is scum, which I find unlikely

Why would it make sense only if that scenario?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That thought mirrors exactly what I am thinking Norwee.
Why the long post from Gc out of nowhere?
At this point a gc flip would be quite informative in my opinion.

This is scummy and +equity with GC. Green Crayons is heavened and flips demon, and Walter can justify pushing for me the next day.

Who would you be ok with heavening and vice versa out of remaining players?

[Cthylla]

Now that Crossfire is done and I've officially seen Isis play scum.
I have no new information I'd like to add to my read.

That is all.

I do! I was scum with her, and she was so much quieter had far, far fewer fluff posts in that game. She's having more fun here.

[Cthylla]

VOTE: Hayasaka

I think demons are Green Crayons and Walter but

shrug

about the third
could be Norwee maybe

[Cthylla]

Oh, that was a question directed at me, Norwee. I thought I answered that already.

clidd
Dannflor
Hayasaka
Isis
Norwee
Walter
Hayasaka

are my reads. clidd and Dann want to stick around for longer. Hayasaka I mostly get good feelings from. This post pinged me: 837 but I couldn't articulate why so I didn't mention it back then.

Isis's read on me I get uneasy feelings from, but the question is whether that's my OMGUS talking; I can't really tell whether it's legitimate or not. Her activity, tone, and content otherwise seem pretty towny. If it's the 4th time in a row I'm townlean/reading demon!her, then please just signal to me you're a demon, Isis. I'll join your team and we'll get an early majority.

Norwee I would not heaven. Too many iffy feelings there.

Walter and Green Crayons I think are demons.

[Cthylla]

Hayasaka appears to have duplicated herself in my readlist. Demons could have a ditto ability maybe? Bottom Hayasaka should be Green Crayons.

[clidd]

I am pretty tired of the fancy play syndrome

I agree that playing simple and consistent is good overall, but I don't think we are overthinking as we speculate better ways to use the heaven pick without sending obvious-reads.

[Hayasaka]

I just lost a normal where everyone talked me out of my good reads

Confirmed town ez

[Hayasaka]

I didn't mean to quote that and as you can see by my text I am back to bed.

[clidd]

I liked Isis last posts, but still good with Hayasaka heaven.

[clidd]

And I kind of tired with my ping-pongs in my pick.

[clidd]

Hayasaka appears to have duplicated herself in my readlist. Demons could have a ditto ability maybe? Bottom Hayasaka should be Green Crayons.

I think that you know that I know that the error above is town indicator in my pov, so i will just not read it as AI.

[clidd]

I think Hayasaka should be higher from your pov than Dann. I understand how did you go about the rest.

[Cthylla]

Hayasaka appears to have duplicated herself in my readlist. Demons could have a ditto ability maybe? Bottom Hayasaka should be Green Crayons.

I think that you know that I know that the error above is town indicator in my pov, so i will just not read it as AI.

Lol it was accidental but that's fair.
Hayasaka is below Dann because she randomly pings me soemtimes but I can never explain those pings, so they're

probably

nothing.

[Hayasaka]

I don't really want to self vote yet if that's ok?

[clidd]

We don't have more to discuss.

But you can help with your last reads/pov.

[Hayasaka]

My main fear is you guys are going to adjust your play around who you think I will kill from heaven. When my reads will fluctuate just as much if not more often then you guys on land. So a line of reasoning like "we should probably kill GC since Hayasaka won't" is a line that I believe is comparable to what could go through your heads. And I think a mindset like that could really mess us up.

I didn't expect this to happen so fast and didn't really want to type out a long post today.

[clidd]

I can be tolerant with GC to a certain extent, it depends on how he behaves.

I don't know what conclusion I will reach in the future, but at the moment, with past and current impressions, I am more inclined to consider him town.

[Hayasaka]

I still think Clidd should stay on the battlefield all game until we heaven a first scum.
I think the dude just drives so much discussion he is an invaluable asset on the battlefield.
I don't think he should be kept because of his reads or because he sees eye to eye with me.

My main thing is if we can't come up with a 2nd town read that we don't hate then we are never winning this game together because without Clidd we are just going to fall apart. And while I'd like to imagine me and Clidd can just chain snipe all the scum on judgement days I'd like to avoid needing to do that as possible.

Basically if we can't find a town player that isn't Clidd then you guys are never going to lynch scum without him either. Finding town reads should honestly be the easiest part of this setup and you guys are talking about just ripping in Clidd like it's our only viable option.

[Hayasaka]

I think shit like Dann wanting to stay behind is bad because I don't really see him being some glue that is holding us together in the thread. And I think the logic of someone having 5% better reads then average and should stay is actually kinda bad, since you can use your reads in heaven anyway.

Content generation on an average player is far more useful to the town then an above average player. Not to mention he can act as glue pretty well. A player who can generate the content needed to make the game a lot more solvable or hold the group together are the most valuable asset to win a game. Clidd does both of those things and just getting rid of him to get a 98% town read over a 93% town read is just a horrid mistake to me.

[Green Crayons]

Is Haya at L-1 for being heavened?

[Green Crayons]

Answer:yes

GC
Dann
clidd
Cth