Open 793 Trust Fall 10p (Game Over)

[luncheon]

shameless prod dodge, sorry will get to this tomorrow

[luncheon]

oh, I yoinked another page top. I'm unstoppable

[iNtuition]

So one person can stay behind to play matchmaker to ensure the game doesn't go off the rails.

I'm willing to stay behind and be the momma hen.

i vote for myself, implo, and luncheon. i anti-vote mama and would like her to be last (well basically we don't need to clear the last person, so hell and mama should be the untrusted)

-hornet

Who is mama?

Remember that we can have 1 person "stay behind" in the endgame.

I volunteered myself.

Now with Intuition-Hornet trying to push myself AND hellbooks into the shadow realm,

that doesn't sit easy with me at all.

scum

-hornet

[iNtuition]

maybe casey idk yeah i prob trust casey

My desire to snap-trust hellbooks is at an all-time high thanks to Intuition.

scum!

-hornet

[Gamma Emerald]

No

[iNtuition]

To expand:

53 pings as a designed to be town read (i think they call this lamist? is-this-lamist.butterfly). another way of looking at it is this. whats type of posts do townies make? or for what reason? (a) to express their views, (b) to inquire, (c) to push their scumreads, (d) to defend their town reads, (e) to work around mechanics. Scum, on the other hand, post for different reasons. (z) to look townie, (y) to distance from their buds, (x) to protect their buds, (w) to push a ml, (v) to pocket / manipulate.

53 pinges me as z. it's doesn't do a, b, c, or d. so what was her intent behind the post?? it could be e too, but considering it more, i don't get why town would want to stay behind?? all that does is eliminate a potential scummer being left behind. so it's like something a summer would think a townie would say "i will sacrifice myself for you my children, ascend to heaven" but really it's not a townie mindset at all

124 i think is trying to use my suspicion against hell to pocket hell for a trustfall! since im calling her bluff asking for her to stay behind, she is looking for an alternative route to ascending

[iNtuition]

No

yes!

-hornet

--hornet

[iNtuition]

the bolded in 122 quote up above i think is mama trying to back out. my intent behind my anti-vote was to call her bluff and see if she would stick to her volunteer. scum!her would need to find a way to back out of it

[iNtuition]

I'm momma. Intuition-Hornet thinks I'm deep-wolfing myself into an autolose situation. I'm not a big fan of that logic

you bypassed my actual logic in a way that makes you look better. i don't think you actually

wan

t to stay behind.

-hornet

[Gamma Emerald]

the bolded in 122 quote up above i think is mama trying to back out. my intent behind my anti-vote was to call her bluff and see if she would stick to her volunteer. scum!her would need to find a way to back out of it

Walk me through how she’s walking it back? I see it but I don’t at the same time.

[hellbooks]

gamma is my most solid TR at this temporary moment

Intuition’s post regarding HB piqued my interest, and when I checked the context I found this, which seems sketchy in its own right. I don’t like the “temporary moment” thing, it reads like HB is trying to leave the back door open in case TRing me becomes too dangerous.

u just want to get lock towned by me

[hellbooks]

124 i think is trying to use my suspicion against hell to pocket hell for a trustfall! since im calling her bluff asking for her to stay behind, she is looking for an alternative route to ascending

no actually we are scum together

[redtea]

intuition, I don't think she's going to back out. And even if she tried, we can, like, hold her to it.
Casey stays till the end and we don't have to work out any wifom on her slot, since it literally doesn't matter what alignment she is as long as no one tf's her

[redtea]

Basically, it makes her conf town for all intents and purposes, whether or not she actually is.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I think redtea speaks what I couldn’t find the words for

[implosion]

I swear to god I posted yesterday.

I don't really buy that argument for Casey-scum either; I think it's just a personality thing/if intuition is town it's town applying the way they look at the game to other people.

redtea is maybe townish.

[iNtuition]

I'm not sold on Casey being scum but I agree with hornet on the point that wanting to be 1 of the final 2 to stay behind is a very strange mindset to adopt. As town, you're effectively halving your chances of getting scum left behind, so I struggle to see the town-motivation for it.

As scum, the motivation is to look like you don't care about whether or not you're left behind, and to get someone to (hopefully) propose a trust fall to you.

Casey, why do you want to be left standing instead of increasing the chances of getting scum in the final 2?

~Marksman

[iNtuition]

Basically, it makes her conf town for all intents and purposes, whether or not she actually is.

Yeah I think redtea speaks what I couldn’t find the words for

No, this logic is bad. If we think Casey is town, we want her trusted at some point and not in the final 2.
If we think Casey is scum, we want her in the final 2.

Leaving her in the final 2 simply so we can "treat her as conftown" is a bad strat and not how we should be playing this. If you think she could be scum, then sure, leave her there, but "policy" leaving her there simply because she volunteered despite not thinking she's scummy is dumb. The ultimate goal is to get the two scummiest slots in dumpster.

~Marksie

[iNtuition]

Actually, I like hornet enough to do this now:

I trust hornet

Take me away.

~Marks

[Gamma Emerald]

Basically, it makes her conf town for all intents and purposes, whether or not she actually is.

Yeah I think redtea speaks what I couldn’t find the words for

No, this logic is bad. If we think Casey is town, we want her trusted at some point and not in the final 2.
If we think Casey is scum, we want her in the final 2.

Leaving her in the final 2 simply so we can "treat her as conftown" is a bad strat and not how we should be playing this. If you think she could be scum, then sure, leave her there, but "policy" leaving her there simply because she volunteered despite not thinking she's scummy is dumb. The ultimate goal is to get the two scummiest slots in dumpster.

~Marksie

Here's the issue with your thinking: there will ALWAYS be a town in the final 2 of a town win scenario, now that we've had one scum leave already. So the idea is we have one townie choose to be that person and try to guide the game into a town win.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, I like hornet enough to do this now:

I trust hornet

Take me away.

~Marks

holy fucking shit if this isn't a shitpost I'm gonna die of laughter

[implosion]

it is, in fact, a shitpost.

[Casey]

I'm not sold on Casey being scum but I agree with hornet on the point that wanting to be 1 of the final 2 to stay behind is a very strange mindset to adopt. As town, you're effectively halving your chances of getting scum left behind, so I struggle to see the town-motivation for it.

As scum, the motivation is to look like you don't care about whether or not you're left behind, and to get someone to (hopefully) propose a trust fall to you.

Casey, why do you want to be left standing instead of increasing the chances of getting scum in the final 2?

~Marksman

Because hubris.

[Casey]

To expand:

53 pings as a designed to be town read (i think they call this lamist? is-this-lamist.butterfly). another way of looking at it is this. whats type of posts do townies make? or for what reason? (a) to express their views, (b) to inquire, (c) to push their scumreads, (d) to defend their town reads, (e) to work around mechanics. Scum, on the other hand, post for different reasons. (z) to look townie, (y) to distance from their buds, (x) to protect their buds, (w) to push a ml, (v) to pocket / manipulate.

53 pinges me as z. it's doesn't do a, b, c, or d. so what was her intent behind the post?? it could be e too, but considering it more, i don't get why town would want to stay behind?? all that does is eliminate a potential scummer being left behind. so it's like something a summer would think a townie would say "i will sacrifice myself for you my children, ascend to heaven" but really it's not a townie mindset at all

124 i think is trying to use my suspicion against hell to pocket hell for a trustfall! since im calling her bluff asking for her to stay behind, she is looking for an alternative route to ascending

Hellbooks and I have pocketed each other so hard, we walk around with our hands in each other's jeans.

[Casey]

Jeans'

pockets!

I mean jeans'

pockets!