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[geraintm]

Cfj is the easier to elim, so yes.

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[Raya36]

im so over this bullshit read my town pm and weep

VOTE: nosferatu

if ur on this wagon you suck at this game

it is anti-town wincon to bleed town d1 and you know it cfg, and that bullshit abt consequences of being on whats basically an rvs wagon is ridiculous

This is scummy

[Raya36]

if i get wagoned for dumb shit like this its obvious im not gonna have the agency i want later on so id rather get it over with now and just go next

Do you usually get this frustrated when wagoned early on? It's reading as an act to me

[Raya36]

Is cfj seriously being wagoned for being “too towny”?

It might be a playstyle thing for him but he seems to choose his words too carefully and to be trying too hard to appear obvtown. There's a difference between being too towny and appearing to be trying to be too towny. There's a paranoid part of me that thought when he was discussing how scum lurking by making meaningless posts is optimal, he was trying to say that's what he would do as scum, then do the opposite to appear town.

[Raya36]

Dayvig: Gamma

Idk if this is real but why Gamma?

[Gamma Emerald]

Dayvig: Gamma

Interesting. I’m going to enjoy watching everyone else react to this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is cfj seriously being wagoned for being “too towny”?

It might be a playstyle thing for him but he seems to choose his words too carefully and to be trying too hard to appear obvtown. There's a difference between being too towny and appearing to be trying to be too towny. There's a paranoid part of me that thought when he was discussing how scum lurking by making meaningless posts is optimal, he was trying to say that's what he would do as scum, then do the opposite to appear town.

This makes more sense to me.

[Nosferatu]

im so over this bullshit read my town pm and weep

VOTE: nosferatu

if ur on this wagon you suck at this game

it is anti-town wincon to bleed town d1 and you know it cfg, and that bullshit abt consequences of being on whats basically an rvs wagon is ridiculous

This is scummy

^ scumpost btw remember for later

[Nosferatu]

I can't work out if this is genuine frustration or an pro town fake or a scum fake.
like, if any game you are in is causing you this must anger then just leave, it isn't good for your mental health.

this is exactly why i stopped playing in the first place but alas im bored and quarantined and i already quit the game that made me even MORE frustrated so here we are

you know what i dont think someone with an avatar such as urself would engage in this kind of pro-town behavior

VOTE: cfg

my god you are making it easy for a wagon to form on you

?

you think someone who couldn't take the time to carefully upload an animated avatar of some movie star consuming a cigar or joint or whatever the fuck that is and instead lazily uploaded black text on what appears to be cosmic background radiation would be the type to spend so much time pontificating about optimal pro-town play?

personally i find that to be a little bit dubious

[Raya36]

selfvotes are always scummy

[Nosferatu]

it is anti-town wincon to bleed town d1 and you know it cfg

I can parse this sentence fragment about three different ways, none of which make any sense. Are you saying that you're acting scummy because you think looking town is anti-town? That you think I'm town, but playing badly because I'm trying too hard to be townread? That you think I'm scum because I look town? (Why do you even think that I look town?)

Which Idk if I really like that, feels like he’s trying to hint PR in a slick way
I’m open to talking about this if Nosf cares to though.

that is what im saying, im not hinting at a pr tho i think its optimal play as town unless you have a negative utility role which i don't

Missed this before
Why is being obvtown early bad for you?

cause i like being alive

[Nosferatu]

selfvotes are always scummy

nice dodge :D

[Gamma Emerald]

it is anti-town wincon to bleed town d1 and you know it cfg

I can parse this sentence fragment about three different ways, none of which make any sense. Are you saying that you're acting scummy because you think looking town is anti-town? That you think I'm town, but playing badly because I'm trying too hard to be townread? That you think I'm scum because I look town? (Why do you even think that I look town?)

Which Idk if I really like that, feels like he’s trying to hint PR in a slick way
I’m open to talking about this if Nosf cares to though.

that is what im saying, im not hinting at a pr tho i think its optimal play as town unless you have a negative utility role which i don't

Missed this before
Why is being obvtown early bad for you?

cause i like being alive

Just as personal preference, or are you better as a player in late game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also the self vote was ech but not really scummy I think

[Raya36]

selfvotes are always scummy

nice dodge

How was that a dodge? You self-voted, I find self-votes to be scummy. You're frustrating read as fake

[geraintm]

selfvotes are always scummy

They arent pro town

[ItalianoVD]

Dayvig: Gamma

@RCenigma - you have call for judgement as scum, but you have just killed Gamma??

Cfj is the easier to elim, so yes.

Sorry, no clue what this means. What is dayvig? Gamma is killed?

[BananaCucho]

Am I the only one that thinks that is townreading Nos? I don't understand the scumreads on him and the votes on him feel opportunistic at best

[ItalianoVD]

selfvotes are always scummy

I don’t know if it’s only a scum based action, but definitely anti-town. On that note

@Nosferatu: what purpose does it serve besides ATE? Which is not helping town, but helping yourself? With the numbers the way it is a townie elimination on Day 1 will not break or lose the game for town. I know play styles/personality have a lot to do with how players react to pressure and wagons being formed on them, etc., but your action seemed fake and forced (scum) or at the very least bad unhelpful play (townie)

[BananaCucho]

selfvotes are always scummy

They arent pro town

Yeah but townies act anti-town all the time. Anti-town =/= scummy

[ItalianoVD]

Am I the only one that thinks that is townreading Nos? I don't understand the scumreads on him and the votes on him feel opportunistic at best

Could you explain why? I’m open to see things differently.

[Nosferatu]

Just as personal preference, or are you better as a player in late game?

just a preference

selfvotes are always scummy

I don’t know if it’s only a scum based action, but definitely anti-town. On that note

@Nosferatu: what purpose does it serve besides ATE? Which is not helping town, but helping yourself? With the numbers the way it is a townie elimination on Day 1 will not break or lose the game for town. I know play styles/personality have a lot to do with how players react to pressure and wagons being formed on them, etc., but your action seemed fake and forced (scum) or at the very least bad unhelpful play (townie)

i literally wanted to just get eliminated to spite the town lol ive done it as scum for AtE but its never been called out as such its not really all that deep

selfvotes are always scummy

nice dodge :D

How was that a dodge? You self-voted, I find self-votes to be scummy. You're frustrating read as fake

i literally didn't ask your opinion on self-votes
the fact that you feel the need to back up ur opinion after i call ur post scummy is v interesting

[BananaCucho]

Am I the only one that thinks that is townreading Nos? I don't understand the scumreads on him and the votes on him feel opportunistic at best

Could you explain why? I’m open to see things differently.

Tone feels town, I have also done the exact same thing as town multiple times myself in the past.

Mainly, I don't see the play here from a scum POV. Especially with the self vote. I understand the "AtE" argument but it feels like suboptimal play, he could just attempt to brush off the criticism as scum instead of going ham like this and self voting

[Raya36]

selfvotes are always scummy

They arent pro town

That's true. Ok self votes are always anti-town. And I read this particular time as scummy

[Nosferatu]

if i was scum i probs would've waited for like a couple more votes before throwing a tantrum what was i at like 2-3 votes lmao?