Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[Ampharos]

gonna take a breather

any other insomniacs feel free to combo break me

[Ampharos]

you know what? proud of FL for getting a good night's sleep for once

think imma just check back in tomorrow

[BrightEyedFish]

Can we conftown Amp after those series of posts? I tried to find something scummy and came up with zilch.

[Ampharos]

idk i think she might be wolfing

[Flavor Leaf]

you know what? proud of FL for getting a good night's sleep for once

think imma just check back in tomorrow

Yeah, i fell asleep at 9pm, waking up at 4am, so at least 7 hours tonight!

[Flavor Leaf]

Can we conftown Amp after those series of posts? I tried to find something scummy and came up with zilch.

Eh, i got some scum vibes from it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Spoiler:

do it no balls

i have no idea

yes. unless you gladiate a player i don't townread. then it's good play.

the only offwagon i confidently TR is Hayasaka. let me see if i can remember what my other reads this game actually are.

Hmm, I guess I missed those.

@Amy, @KD , why are you encouraging gladiate over a regular execution? I agree with Tris that it’s suboptimal unless you have a wagon with excessive resistance and yeah, don’t like either’s reaction to the gladiate.

~M

i'm only convinced he's town because elimming him is the correct play. assuming scum is aware of that, claiming vengeful is just a shortcut to Pepper being eliminated.

if i were to say the claim makes him town and therefore we should elim someone else, then the claim no longer makes him town because i've just given reason for scum to make the claim.

So, you think we should either execute/Hya gladiate Pepper and have him venge NM/Amy/jjh, correct?

I wouldn’t support jjh. Not opposed to NM. If Amy flips scum, than Tris is probably spewed town from that, since extremely unlikely to have an SvS hood and obviously vice-versa.

@Amy, can we get a current readslist please?

And what is your current read on Tris?

~M

@Amy, do you have any other games - preferably both a towngame and a scumgame I could look at?

~M

@KD, @Ampharos, why isn’t it concerning either of you that your strongest scumread is voting identically to you?

@Amy, any particular reasons you continue to ignore every single question I keep asking you?

~M

@Amy

~M

One more question @Amy, which you will probably continue to ignore and think I probably won’t notice is:

Why do you have absolutely no reaction whatsoever to either Tris voting you or FL sr you?

~M

tris's vote i didn't notice

FL's suspicion i'm aware of and am still parsing. probably going to require some backreading to form a coherent thought on it. still largely trying to get a feel for FL as a person/player so i can calibrate my "how would i expect him to behave as town" sensors

mm

gamma's probably town for that flavorclaim, actually

and i honestly think FL may be town too?

so where am i getting bamboozled

I’m a null Poe read, but then i get towned which makes sense considering I’m pushing there.

I also don’t like that in conjunction Not Mafia is the vengekill choice, but they scum read KD, not necessarily NM.

I feel like they were trying to get town read with that cluster of posts, and you know, town a,Pharos needed to do that too, so I can see it.

But it’s definitely not at the level where I’m gonna straight up call them town. I’d prefer KD venge to an Amy venge right now however

[Ampharos]

i'm up for like 15 more minutes to answer any pressing questions

[Ampharos]

I also don’t like that in conjunction Not Mafia is the vengekill choice, but they scum read KD, not necessarily NM.

N_M is a pretty high confidence scumread? i thought that was pretty explicit

KD is mostly just "the one other person i can't find a reason to townread"

[Flavor Leaf]

Why is NM a scum read and not a null lurker?

[Ampharos]

lurkers who are town tend to produce at least A thought at some point - maybe very early on while they're still trying to care, maybe when getting wagoned lights a fire under their ass. N_M has NOTHING, and is actively refusing to give anything. it's an empty slot in the way that villagers almost never are

also someone said earlier that he HAS displayed a capacity to produce some degree of content as town, so i don't buy that this is NAI playstyle stuff

[jjh927]

Caught up on lunch. This is really just making me feel better about townreading everyone that isn't NM and FL

Back to work in a couple of minutes

[BrightEyedFish]

Can we conftown Amp after those series of posts? I tried to find something scummy and came up with zilch.

Eh, i got some scum vibes from it.

Yeah, 1053 ruined it.

[Kaname Date]

sorry all, i should be here tonight. anything pressing?

[Hayasaka]

Why do people always get so suprised when I state strong read on slots that are lurking like NM.
Not like NM lurking makes him more or less readable.

Some players get harder to read if they get super into a game because of how good their scum game is.

[jjh927]

Why do people always get so suprised when I state strong read on slots that are lurking like NM.
Not like NM lurking makes him more or less readable.

Some players get harder to read if they get super into a game because of how good their scum game is.

It's an easy counterargument

That aside, it has actually use as a point to be made in terms of generating reads based on familiarity, prevalence, and all that. Availability bias and all that. Good to be aware of it, but when you're aware of it it's just a weak counter.

I'd ask you if you have reasons you can articulate about why NM is scum, but I also think NM is scum and I think my new playstyle since I got a job involves low effort high efficiency high accuracy plays like voting scum and nothing more

[MariaR]

No VC here cause mod can't read

[BrightEyedFish]

VC later

Does this mean the duel/gladiator thing is a farce?

[Kaname Date]

please get a claim on the target before hammering the venge.

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