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[Ampharos]

for the record i also do not want ampharos shot today

i ALSO do not want KD shot today, mostly because i want N_M shot today

i think i would enjoy being scumpartners with you. handshakes for not wanting each other shot today.

and i suppose it is worth noting i also really like how Pepper is handling his shot.

wolfing with me always tends to devolve into either conversations about music or arguments about pokemon

which, for the record, i view as a good thing

also yes i think DrP is playing this correctly so that's nice

[Ampharos]

ftr FL's response to my question is very uninspiring if N_M's town, and actually somewhat comforting if N_M is scum

quite frankly i think scum!FL would have bussed scum!N_M to hell and back in this gamestate, and i think this awkward dancing-around-it that he's doing is just NOT the approach he would be taking as a partner

if N_M's town, on the other hand, i worry that FL's a wolf caught in a spot where he's not quite sure how to position himself around the inevitable flip of a low hanging villager, hence all the hemming and hawwing

obviously this is all incredibly conditional

but that was ultimately the point of the exercise - to try to get him to take a hard stance before we see the flip

[DoctorPepper]

So, if NM is town, what good would potential wolf FL get from NM not getting shot?

[BrightEyedFish]

current

This is a weird thought I am having but maybe its something.
The defense has similar vibe as when DnD kinda defended Gamma.

This makes me want to think gamma and NM are the same alignment. They could both be scum or both be town.


P. S.
I was sick the past few days (corona negative) so that explains my lack of posting. Feeling much better now.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

HEAL: Amy

I actually like her posting today.

and now what do I do with this?



Sigh. :/

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Why would KD be shot today? Who is even advocating for that?

~M

a solid chunk of the game (or at least the louder portions) seem to have established some dichotomy between KD and myself, which is what i was speaking to

Who other than FL did this? Maybe me? but I don’t recall anyone else doing that.

~Mars

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Let's put this to rest.

I've been playing casually since 2011, seriously since 2016. I'm a site administrator at MafiaUniverse.com.

Assertions that I'm new are incorrect as well as annoying, and I guarantee you that's NAI.

Yeah I don’t think someone of this experience level would be self-conscious like I was initially thinking, or feel much need to play defensively regarding mechanics
UNVOTE:

hmmm

I think my feeling of weirdness re: Gamma is more that I didn't read Ampharos' post as self-conscious at all, and even if you assumed that she was new to mafia, I still wouldn't have read her posts as self-conscious, so calling them such seems off to me. Iirc there were several people calling Ampharos towny for outing the neighborhood,

so it feels like this could be a shallow attempt to prevent her from becoming a universal TR, if that makes sense

This post still bothers me.

~M

Why?
Tbh that’s probably a decent point for Amphy!town, it reads as TMI

It might if it wasn’t so extremely over the top.

~M

elaborate on this?

Accusing Gamma of preventing you from becoming a “universal townred” on D freaking 1, is ridiculously over the top. It either points to you as a buddy or Gamma is right about them TMIing you town. Either way, it’s 100% not a neutral read and it makes me think that DnD had some kind of agenda with this post.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

ugh. i'm gonna be light SRing Ampharos for the whole game, partly in reaction to the townreads she's accruing. what makes this difficult is she's working with a different site culture than what i'm used to. and her play looks high-level, which isn't AI but does always succeed in pressing the paranoia button.
i agree with her takes, i think. to echo her thoughts on Flavor Leaf, i need to see her really push something.

you know, I think I have to take a step back a bit on my ampharos read as well. I thought her presence in the beginning of the game was strong and initially townread her for that, but it’s dropped off a lot since then so she’s probably now close to null for me.

- Daenerys

This post looks anti-partnery for KD.

~M

i... actually agree with this

alright so i'm bad at mafia

and if N_M's town then i'm

really

bad at mafia

where am i fucking up here

That’s what my KD pocket/frame theory is based on, because scum doesn’t alter their read to appease a buddy, so I feel pretty confident about calling KD town from this and I like that you’re agreeing with this.

Now, I’m super paranoid that DnD open wolfed to give someone towncread for bussing them. I don’t like this thought because I’m tr everyone on that wagon, so it makes me think at least one slot is fooling me and if both you and NM are town, more than one.

Because that would mean two bussers on that wagon.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

ftr FL's response to my question is very uninspiring if N_M's town, and actually somewhat comforting if N_M is scum

quite frankly i think scum!FL would have bussed scum!N_M to hell and back in this gamestate, and i think this awkward dancing-around-it that he's doing is just NOT the approach he would be taking as a partner

if N_M's town, on the other hand, i worry that FL's a wolf caught in a spot where he's not quite sure how to position himself around the inevitable flip of a low hanging villager, hence all the hemming and hawwing

obviously this is all incredibly conditional

but that was ultimately the point of the exercise - to try to get him to take a hard stance before we see the flip

Gun to head, 627 doesn’t give me a lot of confidence in NM scum but like I’ve stated previously, that’s obviously weak. In Doubles’. NM tied himself immediately to molla by doing that blatantly obvious scum distancing thing, where they both immediately hard sr the other in their initial posts.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I just find N_M will solve, will have high post density.
But will just never explain anything as town.

And I don't particularly take issue with the first 2 lines. I think is actual current lack of presence is incredibly bizarre for him.
From a crowd analysis standpoint he also isn't under much if any pressure which just strikes me as odd for a field that should be full of scum?

Definitely something I hadn’t thought of - do you mean you’d expect a town!NM to be more low hanging fruit-y and that scum would be trying to drive or set up a miselim on him?

- Daenerys

DnD just sounds pretty nonchalant about this, where as I’d expect them to have a stronger reaction if NM is a buddy.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

The moon needs to be removed from the thread title

WHO TOOK MY PAGETOP

Please remove the moon from the thread title

I’ve been wondering if this could possibly be some kind of PR soft but I haven’t a clue what it could possibly be crumbing other than possible flavour?

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

The moon needs to be removed from the thread title

WHO TOOK MY PAGETOP

Please remove the moon from the thread title

I’ve been wondering if this could possibly be some kind of PR soft but I haven’t a clue what it could possibly be crumbing other than possible flavour?

~M

https://labyrinthos.co/blogs/tarot-card ... d-meanings

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Hard Claim

: We were informed when we received our role PM that there was likely more than one hood in the game, so before Pepper decides who he wants to venge, I think that any other possible hoods should out.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

current

This is a weird thought I am having but maybe its something.
The defense has similar vibe as when DnD kinda defended Gamma.

This makes me want to think gamma and NM are the same alignment. They could both be scum or both be town.


P. S.
I was sick the past few days (corona negative) so that explains my lack of posting. Feeling much better now.

That links up to the wrong post because the only post I used that word was when I gave my response to KD.

*(((HUGS)))*

I hope you feel better and I’m extremely glad to hear that you’re negative. Can you link the mosts in question: re: Gamma/NM?

Thanks.

~M

[Hayasaka]

How does knowing who has a neighborhood help you solve the game?
I don't think our PRs should be claiming right now.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

How does knowing who has a neighborhood help you solve the game?
I don't think our PRs should be claiming right now.

I’m not advocating for any PR claim just a mass hood claim.

Why? because I think it’s definitely possible that both NM and Amy could be town. Do you have a better idea?

~M

[Hayasaka]

I don't think we need a hood claim in order to not shoot them today. But I have a bias of town reading both for a very long time.
Roles in hoods in general will have less power or will be paired with scum.

The latter hurts us less then giving POE to the scum.

Our cop/watcher will never be in a hood for example since they just get someone else to claim results for them. I don't want the scum to have a stronger POE especially on a phase like this one where it's mostly just DrP's choice anyway.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

How does knowing who has a neighborhood help you solve the game?
I don't think our PRs should be claiming right now.

I’m not advocating for any PR claim just a mass hood claim.

Why? because I think it’s definitely possible that both NM and Amy could be town. Do you have a better idea?

~M

And this is especially a good idea tomorrow if the venge flips town, so if not today, definitely tomorrow.

~M

[Hayasaka]

Tomorrow is fine, I just don't want scum to have a more informed kill tonight.
When I don't see the hood claim changing anything.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I don't think we need a hood claim in order to not shoot them today. But I have a bias of town reading both for a very long time.
Roles in hoods in general will have less power or will be paired with scum.

The latter hurts us less then giving POE to the scum.

Our cop/watcher will never be in a hood for example since they just get someone else to claim results for them. I don't want the scum to have a stronger POE especially on a phase like this one where it's mostly just DrP's choice anyway.

Pooky was cop, so I think it unlikely we also have a watcher too. Yeah but his choice impacts all of us and he clearly has no idea who to shoot and after Amy’s most recent posting, I have no idea what I’d do in his place. So you saying, oh well it’s just his decision, really isn’t terribly reassuring.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Tomorrow is fine, I just don't want scum to have a more informed kill tonight.
When I don't see the hood claim changing anything.

Fine but you agree we need to do one tomorrow right? My only concern is I have no idea who Pepper should shoot. All that seems extremely likely is that we’re almost certainly losing a town in Pepper and he needs all the help he can get with his decision, because I’d rather we don’t lose a second.

~M

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

PookyTheMagicalBear was never to be seen again they were...

Spoiler: “He that would perfect his work must first sharpen his tools.”

Welcome PookyTheMagicalBear you are

The Magician

You are an Ascetic Innocent child Arcana Cop sided with with the Town

Abilities:

You consider your unique and above most so much so that no actions besides killing will work on you.
At any time you may pm me and you will be revealed as being aligned with the town
At night target a player to learn what Arcana they are.

It is now Day 2
(expired on 2020-09-12 23:28:43)

Yep

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think we need a hood claim in order to not shoot them today. But I have a bias of town reading both for a very long time.
Roles in hoods in general will have less power or will be paired with scum.

The latter hurts us less then giving POE to the scum.

Our cop/watcher will never be in a hood for example since they just get someone else to claim results for them. I don't want the scum to have a stronger POE especially on a phase like this one where it's mostly just DrP's choice anyway.

Um why is this?

[tris]

bleh

i'm stuck in this mental rut where i really REALLY wanna see a Not_Mafia flip and it's monopolizing my entire worldview

because if he's town, there are two players in this game that i'm just HARD misreading

and i don't like that.

ugh, this is mirroring my thoughts. Which makes me even more conflicted, because how can you be town too

[tris]

The moon needs to be removed from the thread title

WHO TOOK MY PAGETOP

Please remove the moon from the thread title

I’ve been wondering if this could possibly be some kind of PR soft but I haven’t a clue what it could possibly be crumbing other than possible flavour?

~M

for a bit early on day one, the thread had the moon marking that usually indicates night.