Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[Flavor Leaf]

Not Mafia flips town, who’s scum, Hayasaka?

[Hayasaka]

And why are you the one that isn’t wrong here? I believe you are on the wrong side

Ok explain how I am wrong then?

[Flavor Leaf]

Because Ampharos is playing in an extreme scum beneficial away, saying what people want to hear, and pushing for a NM kill. Afterwards, they push their pressure onto KD/Myself, maybe Gamma and use the people that they’re telling everything they want to hear for momentum.

On top of that, they straight up made a hypocritical push with regards to the reads that was used in a way to benefit them to make me look bad no matter what NM flipped, especially if NM flipped town.

This is powerful for scum because Not Mafia flipping town would give pressure to come at me, and they get to setup what normally wouldn’t look like associations, as people were saying FL/NM team from time to time, so the fact that that was already established on top of pushing it elsewise, is highly indicative of scumAmpharos, and in return, townNM.

[Flavor Leaf]

And I have already explained all this before.

[Hayasaka]

Not Mafia flips town, who’s scum, Hayasaka?

I don't have a reason to think he is flipping town so I don't have a reason to care.
I think the literal entire game went to hide ever since I gladiated so I honestly only have town read on a few slots that I find are poking in in interesting ways.

Tris, You, Gamma, Amy probably in that exact order if NM flips town although I am not actually thinking about this very much. I think it's Tris from the way they are approaching the phase even if Amy just flips town.
On a Tris scum flip after that, I wouldn't just go you -> Gamma -> Amy, at the point I'd have 2 curveballs from my current stance and would need to reevaluate.

I think no one in this thread has a reason to town read NM and I am not shooting Tris on the back of that.

[Hayasaka]

On a NM town flip I think Amy has pointed out she is going to need to reevaluate me.
And if I manage to stay on the top of her list after that then _idk_ I am probably just wrong on her.

So either way I think I can evaluate Amy easily post NM flip, they are either forced to do something I don't want to hear in a convicing way.
Or they have to keep the same back up scum reads up which I'd find suspicious.

All this assumes a flip I don't think will happen occurs.

[Gamma Emerald]

You and Gamma wanted to shoot Amy since you fear you can't fade them, which is you 2 trying to control the game.

"See how this doesn't work?" Was the last line in my threat, I am basically showing how if I counter by controlling the game it all goes to shit.

Gamma retaliates with the threat of saying I'd be a game thrower if wrong.

Then he acts confused on why I would ever threaten him.


It's a super disingenuous sequence albeit I am not actually positive it makes him scum because he could have just done that out of some kind of frustration with my contesting him so heavily.

I never said I didn't think I could vote off Amphy, I only agreed with FL on the premise of the idea that clearing FL and NM would be a good reason to eliminate Amphy if she was scum
And you didn't really do a good job making it clear you weren't being serious

[Hayasaka]

I think we just go back to the original point I made at the very start of.
Does NM ever make it to a F3 and not get lynched by the town if he has a green role pm.

And my answer to that question is no.

Like if Amy is scum the day 2 vengeful isn't the only way she will ever die, I don't know why Gamma thinks if we shoot NM and see him flip town then we are just fucked and lose the game on the spot.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know if it was clear or not but "See how this doesn't work" in itself I thought was enough to show "see what happens when we all play like this". And not me trying to literally strongarm the game. I wouldn't do it because I think this game has more then just the 3 of us and the greater opinion of the town sorta matters.

I think his follow up threat of saying I'd be a game thrower goes both ways and has nothing to do with anything. Then he is trying to act innocent in the final post like "why ever threaten in the first place then owo".
It's just so weird to me lol.

I wasn't trying to strongarm anything and don't believe anyone else was
So as I saw it you were the one escalating the situation

[tris]

Because Ampharos is playing in an extreme scum beneficial away, saying what people want to hear, and pushing for a NM kill.

do you think she was saying what i want to hear knowingly?

[Flavor Leaf]

Because Ampharos is playing in an extreme scum beneficial away, saying what people want to hear, and pushing for a NM kill.

do you think she was saying what i want to hear knowingly?

You? 100% you’re the neighbor, right?

[Hayasaka]

I never said I didn't think I could vote off Amphy, I only agreed with FL on the premise of the idea that clearing FL and NM would be a good reason to eliminate Amphy if she was scum
And you didn't really do a good job making it clear you weren't being serious

Gamma I can literally find the post where you agreed with FL when he said he wants to shoot Amy because she is hard to fade.

[tris]

i am, but we haven't talked much in the neighborhood

[tris]

Not Mafia flips town, who’s scum, Hayasaka?

I don't have a reason to think he is flipping town so I don't have a reason to care.
I think the literal entire game went to hide ever since I gladiated so I honestly only have town read on a few slots that I find are poking in in interesting ways.

Tris, You, Gamma, Amy probably in that exact order if NM flips town although I am not actually thinking about this very much. I think it's Tris from the way they are approaching the phase even if Amy just flips town.
On a Tris scum flip after that, I wouldn't just go you -> Gamma -> Amy, at the point I'd have 2 curveballs from my current stance and would need to reevaluate.

I think no one in this thread has a reason to town read NM and I am not shooting Tris on the back of that.

i think my reading comprehension is failing here

[Gamma Emerald]

I never said I didn't think I could vote off Amphy, I only agreed with FL on the premise of the idea that clearing FL and NM would be a good reason to eliminate Amphy if she was scum
And you didn't really do a good job making it clear you weren't being serious

Gamma I can literally find the post where you agreed with FL when he said he wants to shoot Amy because she is hard to fade.

I wasn't agreeing with that part of the post, should have been clearer on that.

[Gamma Emerald]

i am, but we haven't talked much in the neighborhood

what have you talked about there? don't need a play-by-play, just the things covered in a broad sense

[tris]

i am, but we haven't talked much in the neighborhood

what have you talked about there? don't need a play-by-play, just the things covered in a broad sense

the most we've done has been to talk a little about the implications DnD's red flip on FL's alignment that night. I was thinking it suggested he is town, while Amy thought he might be someone who would bus.

[Gamma Emerald]

I reckon it's NM/Gamma rn, tbh

jjh is 100% so far in this game. jus' sayin'.

you know this is a) super disingenuous given us having one fade so far and b) concerning given BEF's position on me d1

[Gamma Emerald]

i am, but we haven't talked much in the neighborhood

what have you talked about there? don't need a play-by-play, just the things covered in a broad sense

the most we've done has been to talk a little about the implications DnD's red flip on FL's alignment that night. I was thinking it suggested he is town, while Amy thought he might be someone who would bus.

HMMM

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm no English major but I'm finding a strong theme from Amphy here

[Gamma Emerald]

HURT: ampharos

[Gamma Emerald]

I also think an Amphy scum flip points to tris being town after that

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m no music major, but every time Ampharos posts, the villain’s leitmotif starts playing

[Flavor Leaf]

I also think an Amphy scum flip points to tris being town after that

Oh, right, they’re neighbors. Like, I know this, but I keep forgetting, and then I feel some sort of connection between the two of them and think they’re scummy.

Alright. Yeah, i get this.

[Ampharos]

what the fuck did i miss