Mini Normal 2160 | FIA Group B | Endgame

[lilith2013]

Before this day continues I would like to sincerely say that if I had offended anyone that was not my intentions. I was upset that I was never really given a fair shot because of the situation I came into and I took out that frustration on everyone. I want to admit that I had no intention to actually try but I want to be fair to my team and I think it is important that everyone gets to hear another side and the full story. Peace

I feel like this has to be a scumclaim, town!froppy was given an entire day phase to get their shit together while we were piling on plus. This post only makes sense if froppy is scum and felt that their team was already on the verge of being decimated when they replaced in. Like, I feel like town is doing pretty well so far and this level of defeatism doesn’t make sense.

could I see scum!una? maybe. we can revisit tomorrow.

[lilith2013]

Holding off on voting until we massclaim, since I think froppy could self-hammer to cut the massclaim short.

[lilith2013]

@mod can we get a prod on notmafia?

[lilith2013]

There’s a possibility that my scumread on four is more based on him playing like he’s informed and it’s due to his role, but I just can’t shake the feeling that he hasn’t attempted to help solve at all

[TheFourEyedDude]

I know this doesn't mean much, but I am mostly keeping things close to my chest for the time being, since I have NM alive as an insurance policy, if it comes time for my elimination during a day phase, I will openly share all my thoughts, but, I don't want to give a great pool of my reads to the mafia team and let them just kill my strongest townreads all the time.

I don't know what the votecount is and I'll be skimming the pages I missed tomorrow.

[TheFourEyedDude]

Oh, poo, there were only two pages. I'll still read better tomorrow, but, this Froppy wagon seems to be proceeding much like the plusJOYed one Day 2.

[Not_Mafia]

Let’s just lynch Froppy

[lilith2013]

this Froppy wagon seems to be proceeding much like the plusJOYed one Day 2.

What is this supposed to mean?

[the worst]

There’s a possibility that my scumread on four is more based on him playing like he’s informed and it’s due to his role, but I just can’t shake the feeling that he hasn’t attempted to help solve at all

this resonates more with me

[TheFourEyedDude]

this Froppy wagon seems to be proceeding much like the plusJOYed one Day 2.

What is this supposed to mean?

Wagon has been stalled with very few attempts to change it. It looks like the last Scum wagon we had on Scum who had given up

[osuka]

@mod can we get a prod on notmafia?

Not_Mafia posted earlier today, so he's within the 48-hour mark there

[UnaBombaH]

Fuckitall then I guess.

I'm a Town 3-shot Indecisive Rolestopper.

Meaning that I have 3 shots (1 left), yes, but I'm also unable to target the same player twice in a row.
Hence my frustration with Nep dying last night, when I literally thought S_S would've been a priority target for scum. Not that I could've used my shot on Nep two nights in a row either.
But the part where I really screwed up was admitting that I did target S_S last night. I should've lied at the start of the day instead, and claimed that I was going to protect him the coming night.
Hence my increased frustration.
I then wanted to see whether either of S_S or TW would've been on alert for me to try and directly hint my problem to them, and possibly be able to come up with a plan in secret.

If I were to think at least one of you/S_S was town, I might have something like

2630

ways

to explain myself discreetly enough

to either of you.

I've done this in a game before, but I can't remember which.
And I feel like at least one of the two were present then. Plus I had to re-check and confirm alrady earlier that S_S was present when I did all those "backup"-crumbings in Blessed Mafia.
He even admitted that he was the one who believed me back then, so I felt like this might work.
So, what I had said back in 2630.

I have this idea I've been thinking about since yesterday.

But the problem is that I'm indecisive.

This was D1 before I had fully committed to protecting Nep N1. Shortly after this I followed with the idea of a quasi-leash, but Ducky squashed it.
Obviously you guys didn't know back then what I was aiming at, but I knew I couldn't save Nep two nights in a row.
I just wanted to either get a result from town!Nep N1, or lynch a lying scum!Nep D2 and move on.
When she got her result "fixed", I realized there was nothing else to do but hope that scum wouldn't kill her with the fear of their kill going to waste, but admittedly that was a long shot.

[Something_Smart]

I've done this in a game before, but I can't remember which.

Oh, I remember. It was the one where Boon and I were both vigis.

You were also scum there :thonk:

[UnaBombaH]

Now, I'm fully admitting that me crumbing my Indecisive-modifier was a "survivalistic" move on my part, but I felt comfortable doing it for two reasons.
1. I still haven't seen a scummie who checks/notices these things I throw out.
If someone does, it's always a townie who potentially scumreads me and wants to case me, and those are the peeps that basically ~should~ see them as well.
2. I knew my role would be super-strong ungated, and potentially game-changing even with these modifiers, BUT I also realized that this one modifier would be the one that gets me mislynched.
Scum would be very eager to get me lynched based on "poor decision-making" with my night-actions that I couldn't explain without explicitly admitting that I literally CAN'T protect the same target twice in a row.

[Something_Smart]

I can't believe I missed that

But you also basically flat-out claimed indecisive in 3864, so it seems like a waste of a crumb.

[UnaBombaH]

I've done this in a game before, but I can't remember which.

Oh, I remember. It was the one where Boon and I were both vigis.

You were also scum there :thonk:

Well, my MO with PRs is pretty much the same as scum and town so...

I can't believe I missed that

But you also basically flat-out claimed indecisive in 3864, so it seems like a waste of a crumb.

But that was a lot later though.
That crumb was a fail-safe for a situation where someone like scum!Duck tries to turbo-lynch me today.
I already admitted that I shat the bed when I claimed to have targeted you last night.
I obviously want to claim truthfully as town as to not cause conflicting results for other PRs, but here it might've been worth to lie a little.

[lilith2013]

well at least this game got less boring, that’s for sure

[Something_Smart]

Yeah, the first crumb was fine, I just mean the second one was unnecessary (although very cute).

And yes you are right that it probably would have been worth it to lie about targeting me last night, although I would be surprised if I died over a claimed PR and an effective conftown.

[the worst]

i'm fine with the claims/crumbs
una what is your read progression looking like rn

[UnaBombaH]

Oh, and the last part.
I checked it earlier just to confirm, but (paraphrasing, not an actual quote per rules):

All potential rolestoppers in this game follow the Normal guidelines, and therefore cannot block a Strongman from committing a kill, but block all other roles from targeting the same person as them.

So yes, I am able to block kills, and the only way to bypass that protection is via a Strongman, or a direct roleblock towards me.

[UnaBombaH]

Also why I was so pissed off D1 btw.
I was literally hoping for no outed PRs, and the chance to possibly even save my shots for later.
I wanted Saudade to continue being an obv.townie, and no better kill-targets for scum to pop up. I even crumbed my protection on them quite early.
Sirius would've been an awesome lynch for that scenario as well. Then all the replacements happened, and multiple townies suddenly claimed roles before N1.
Ech.

[the worst]

i love how we stopped playing mafia and started playing "look at this fancy jigsaw i put together"

[the worst]

that sounded ironic, but it was.

[Something_Smart]

that sounded ironic, but it was.

this post is a whole-ass mood.

[the worst]

i took a sip of tea as i hit submit.