Mini 2167: Illicit Substances Mafia (Game Over!)

[morph the cat]

I don't get the Giffybork read. You're talking about it like its a townread you trust a lot in, and if thats the case, why is it so low? I feel like I'm just missing something thats obvious.

morph did u respond to this cuz i didn't see it

We did, although indirectly. Should be on this page, or the one directly before this one.

[morph the cat]

I don't get the Giffybork read. You're talking about it like its a townread you trust a lot in, and if thats the case, why is it so low? I feel like I'm just missing something thats obvious.

morph did u respond to this cuz i didn't see it

We did, although indirectly. Should be on this page, or the one directly before this one.

..He said, inadvertently stealing the pagetop. Make that last page or two pages ago.

[April Ludgate]

Prism/Alisae is an interesting thing

Okay, Neuter-half here and I'll bite.

Because of the things Alisae said, or are you only partially basing it upon Alisae's posts, and you see things from Prism-slot towards Alisae as well?

It was the way Alisae posted that made it look like a catch-up that scum tried to make look townie and semi succeeded.

Prism just acted really weird, especially in regards to PlusJoyed/Prism, which I no longer think Plus is scum, they just silly.

I really think Prism slot is a scum slot individually, and nothing damning Alisae’s dynamics go against that. I’m also lean scum on Maria because I don’t think I’ve ever seen her be this charming.

Obviously, I don’t expect to be completely correct Day 1, but i feel it’s a good start, and I’m most confident with Prism. ScumPrism easily could have gotten disinterested in the game based on gamestate, and I definitely want that this day phase, which is annoying because they replaced out, and the replace in will come into the game knowing where I stand because my votes been there for a while.

[morph the cat]

Do you see anything in the Alisae ISO that points towards Prism, then?

Or are these two reads derived from different angles trying to reconcile with each other?

[April Ludgate]

Do you see anything in the Alisae ISO that points towards Prism, then?

Or are these two reads derived from different angles trying to reconcile with each other?

Different. Joyed and Prism were more attached,but i didn’t want to keep doing pre associative seems before some flips.

I don’t like the way Prism and Joyed talked t each other at all, and it doesn’t feel town town.

[Alisae]

It was the way Alisae posted that made it look like a catch-up that scum tried to make look townie and semi succeeded.

I don't think thats how success works.
Also I'm pretty sure I'm here at gamestart if I'm scum so.......

[Alisae]

I don't get the Giffybork read. You're talking about it like its a townread you trust a lot in, and if thats the case, why is it so low? I feel like I'm just missing something thats obvious.

morph did u respond to this cuz i didn't see it

We did, although indirectly. Should be on this page, or the one directly before this one.

ah me understand now thank you

[PlusJOYED]

Do you see anything in the Alisae ISO that points towards Prism, then?

Or are these two reads derived from different angles trying to reconcile with each other?

Different. Joyed and Prism were more attached,but i didn’t want to keep doing pre associative seems before some flips.

I don’t like the way Prism and Joyed talked t each other at all, and it doesn’t feel town town.

attached from the bulge interaction? I don't really follow you here

[PlusJOYED]

I also though aliase catchup and posts were pretty towny, what makes you interpret them as scum april?

[Alisae]

I think I'll just put some trust in morph and sheep their bork read so I don't really have to think about that much because I feel like thats a slot that would be easy for me to misread

[morph the cat]

It was the way Alisae posted that made it look like a catch-up that scum tried to make look townie and semi succeeded.

I don't think thats how success works.
Also I'm pretty sure I'm here at gamestart if I'm scum so.......

FWIW I genuinely believe that scum-you or town-you wouldn't have been here at gamestart. The game launched at a time that, if you're still on West Coast Best Coast, would have been... difficult, to say the least.


I don't really think the opening PM was very explicit about what it was.


Not that this townbins or scumbins you, but I want to make it clear that I don't doubt the part about game start miss.

[Alisae]

11pm isn't difficult :/

[morph the cat]

Prism/Alisae is an interesting thing

Why did Prism replace out?

Are you a drug dealer. What’re you selling.

@morph, Luke warm. Bork seems a little townie. On the surface, but no ahah’s or click’s yet.

Were you a wizard at reading Notsci? I can't remember a game that you and I played that also had notsci on the player list, but those were the days of dinosaurs, so.

[morph the cat]

11pm isn't difficult :/

I guess I'm getting old. 11:40 PM seems quite inconvenient.

Especially so on a Saturday evening into Sunday morning.

But I suppose not everyone has a literal ankle-biter ready to wake them up at 6AM on the weekends.

[Bell]

Prism/Alisae is an interesting thing

Why did Prism replace out?

Are you a drug dealer. What’re you selling.

@morph, Luke warm. Bork seems a little townie. On the surface, but no ahah’s or click’s yet.

Were you a wizard at reading Notsci? I can't remember a game that you and I played that also had notsci on the player list, but those were the days of dinosaurs, so.

No I replaced into a game as an alt named knell and derailed a wisdom/gif scum team elo win.
NS was there but he was long dead before i repped in.
I just recently played a game with him for the first time I think. I scum read him all of day 1 and it took a very convinced IAI for me to re-evaluate and that re-evaluation and eventual town read came very, very slowly.
Pretty sure my natural inclination is to scum read him. I have a hard time reading the bulge too.

[Bell]

VOTE: Alisae
Boop

[Alisae]

I want to hear why Bell's exercise was artificial and why it was pointless, because it doesn't feel like either to me.

Ok, so I am going to acknowledge that, in a vacuum, such a thing is probably helpful. However, context matters. Iirc, the thread was decently active and conversations were flowing. Then, Bell announces that he wants the game to slow down and have everyone out some reads. This would have caused an unnatural rift in the prior flow of the game, and probably started new conversations that might have overshadowed old ones. One theory I have is that Bell was covering for a scumbuddy in trouble maybe Plus. I feel like people saw this and that's why nobody really did what he asked. The whole post is just yucky towncred grab.

Who would he be covering for

[morph the cat]

Prism/Alisae is an interesting thing

Why did Prism replace out?

Are you a drug dealer. What’re you selling.

@morph, Luke warm. Bork seems a little townie. On the surface, but no ahah’s or click’s yet.

Were you a wizard at reading Notsci? I can't remember a game that you and I played that also had notsci on the player list, but those were the days of dinosaurs, so.

No I replaced into a game as an alt named knell and derailed a wisdom/gif scum team elo win.
NS was there but he was long dead before i repped in.
I just recently played a game with him for the first time I think. I scum read him all of day 1 and it took a very convinced IAI for me to re-evaluate and that re-evaluation and eventual town read came very, very slowly.
Pretty sure my natural inclination is to scum read him. I have a hard time reading the bulge too.

My inclination historically has been to townread Notsci in the games we've played. Sounds like his scum game has evolved into something fearsome recently. Also, I tend to townread bork near-to-default unless I'm being paranoid about how badly I misread him in the Tales game that one time. But we're talking lengthy hiatus on both our parts. And I think it's been a while since GiF has played too.

We're basically a bunch of geriatrics shaking our fists at the clouds.

I'm pretty sure this is the first game I've played with Bulge. I entered the game expecting to be cautious about him and eventually wanting to meta dive. I probably will eventually, but I'm just generally pleased with nearly everything he posts. I get the stance, I get where it's coming from, I get where it goes.

[midwaybear]

Maybe Plus? He was in a fair amount of heat yesterday.

[Bell]

I’m right here you know.

[Alisae]

Maybe Plus? He was in a fair amount of heat yesterday.

Okay so to me it looks like you're just a villager with a tinfoil hat on rather then scum because scum would probably give me a better answer then "maybe plus?" and also I just don't buy Plus is scum in this game. I don't really think that what Bell did is really alignment indicative so I'm not really convinced.

Do you have any other reasons as to why you're scumreading Plus?

[Alisae]

VOTE: April
meh I feel like scum is this or Prism slot cuz I don't really have a clear idea as to where to look for scum so...

[Bell]

I feel like if you wanna hit scum you should be voting prism.
But on the other hand, he’s not here. So that wouldn’t be very sportsmanlike.

[midwaybear]

Well for someone who complained about signals and noise, I find Bell's posts to have a lot of "noise".
As for Plus, I'm not sure if I have any other reasons. His reads seem to be based of lazy/generic reasons, and I'm not sure to what extent I give him benefit of the doubt.

[Bell]

It’s not really noise if they’re my posts. I don’t need to sort myself.