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[Nero Cain]

but IG she's not even scum reading echo that much. She kinda fence sits. So her scum reads are

Nero Cain
Alchemist21

she's deffo wrong on me and I don't really feel like Alch is scum.

then has nullreads on

Egix96
UnaBombaH
SirCakez

the only 1 I see that could be scum is una.

then ur reads are bad, sorry

how do you know so much about other people's alignments?

if Skitter is scum then this might mean there's scum in Alch, egix or Cakez and she's on my case for miseading her buddy.

[skitter30]

HE'S REACTING TO THE WAGON ON HIM So umm how is my statement untrue if he did end up reacting to the wagon on him when he got here...just like I said he would b/c its kinda common knowledge that ppl will react to the wagon/votes on them.

ok i guess fair but imo it's kinda suboptimal

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then ur reads are bad, sorry

how do you know so much about other people's alignments?

if Skitter is scum then this might mean there's scum in Alch, egix or Cakez and she's on my case for miseading her buddy.

i was saying that i disagree with your reads ...
not really sure why your takeaway from that is that i'm scum who's informed of other people's alignments and slipped that knowledge via telling you you have bad reads

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In both the game I played with skitter and in the game that I read while playing that game she had 1 correct scum read early on and then spent the rest of the game(s) tunneling town. So in my limited experience (this is our third game) a singular correct scum read seems to be the limit of her ability. And she's already done nothing but tunnel town so if she's town her play has already been rather poor and if she's scum then she's just scum and thinks I'm an easy hedge.

which games were these?
and from my pov, it's not at all obvious that 'all i've done is tunnel town', ty

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pretty LAMIST and it's not exactly what I said. I said that I think you lack the ability to find more than 1 scum. Would you fall in line and vote whomever if you can't get your pet lynch? Maybe.

if History holds up (and she's town) she has 1 correct early scum read (echo?) and then will tunnel town the rest of the game. I'm not so hot on your "and usually if my reads are ass backwards to skitt's,

that means she's town

and i'm wrong." Why are you wrong? What if she's wrong? What if she's just a Gamma buddy, which seems like a possibility to me?

Would be ok with a getting Skitter out but I'm not sure that's scum, just don't want her to wreck town.

i mean you seem to think that me doing my thing is a p bad thing and that it will 'wreck town'.

Its 18 hours til deadline and you aren't trying to reach a compromise lynch so you aren't being very proactive.

i was catching up with like 36 hours before deadline, what do you want from me even?
i was using that post to make my position clear. namely, that i would ideally want to vote you, and that i don't especially like the current wagons. i was trying to get a sense for what the gamestate was at that juncture (i.e. if a flashwagon was even possible), and p clearly stated where i would vote in the event it wasn't.

and here you go VOTE: echo

and i kinda strongly dislike the way you're framing my approach to the game in these posts ^

[Nero Cain]

cry me a river

[skitter30]

will do

i'll just pick this up tomorrow, i guess ^

[Nero Cain]

you think im scum and I'm not going to shoot you? interesting.

[Nero Cain]

Testarossa is/was scumreading Alch, Cakez is/was scum reading Alch. Datsi is/was scum reading Alch. Maybe others, I stopped looking. How come you never even TRIED to get a wagon on him going?

[Nero Cain]

Testarossa is/was scumreading Alch, Cakez is/was scum reading Alch. Datsi is/was scum reading Alch. Maybe others, I stopped looking. How come you never even TRIED to get a wagon on him going?

[skitter30]

you think im scum and I'm not going to shoot you? interesting.

i thought about adding the caveat 'if i'm still alive' but thought it was fairly obvious ...

Testarossa is/was scumreading Alch, Cakez is/was scum reading Alch. Datsi is/was scum reading Alch. Maybe others, I stopped looking. How come you never even TRIED to get a wagon on him going?

i answered this already - the issues i'm having with him could be related to his irl stuff so i'm willing to give him a bit more space (i.e. till like tomorrow)

[Nero Cain]

Ah, I'm your singular scum read.

[Nero Cain]

the fencesit on Alch isn't great

[skitter30]

k

[EchoVision]

don't think skitter's town

[NoPowerOverMe]

Dylan, 2019 The Crufts Champion

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate
Day ends in (expired on 2020-09-24 18:01:32)

Votecount:
Gamma Emerald(6): Nero Cain, Testarossa, Iconeum, SirCakez, tris, EchoVision
EchoVision(4): Datisi, Egix96, Alchemist21, Skitter30
tris(1): UnabombaH
Skitter30(1): Gamma Emerald
Mod Note: Two hours added to clock to compensate for game clock pause.

[EchoVision]

@mod the votecount time accounts for the pause that we took while looking for a replacement, yes?

[NoPowerOverMe]

You can add two hours to the time shown to account for the game being paused.

Fixed.

[Iconeum]

don't think skitter's town

i think there's a ++ chance of skitter v nero being town v town, and this kind of remark is bleeding scum imo

[Iconeum]

looks like we have L-1 on gamma with under 24 hours to go

a claim perchance?

[tris]

He's (Alch) also correct when he says that Ico can react to his wagon when he gets back.

i'm saying i disagree with this ^
a) wagoning someone who clearly isn't here so they can 'react to the wagon when they get back' is kinda a waste of time and wagoning because you can just ... wagon someone who actively is there, and then let the absent slot either get replaced, or if they return wagon them at that time. it's a silly waste imo because the person you're trying to get a reaction out of isn't even there to produce said reaction
b) i'm not sure ico (in particular) would even react super strongly upon returning to a wagon that formed on him while he was mia, because he was mia

what makes gamma different in this regard?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: skitter

VOTE: skitter
Think she's trying to position herself tactically here

stop sheeping and pocketing me
VOTE: gamma
that's l-1
thank u have a good night

don't think skitter's town

EV is your skitter scumread independant or connected to your vote/scumread on gamma?

[tris]

VOTE: skitter

VOTE: skitter
Think she's trying to position herself tactically here

while this is, like, wrong, it's also a bonkers vote for scum to be making in this gamestate

(namely: he's currently the leading wagon. and is following his cw onto a vanity wagon that is extremely unlikely to get traction in the next (i think) 17 hours or whatever it is. survivalistic scum don't really make this vote)

oof. i think you're right. i noticed it earlier, but i didn't want to give up on my scumread, but it's actually a strong piece of evidence UNVOTE:

[tris]

i've completely changed my mind here. VOTE: Echo

[Iconeum]

VOTE: skitter

VOTE: skitter
Think she's trying to position herself tactically here

while this is, like, wrong, it's also a bonkers vote for scum to be making in this gamestate

(namely: he's currently the leading wagon. and is following his cw onto a vanity wagon that is extremely unlikely to get traction in the next (i think) 17 hours or whatever it is. survivalistic scum don't really make this vote)

oof. i think you're right. i noticed it earlier, but i didn't want to give up on my scumread, but it's actually a strong piece of evidence UNVOTE:

i disagree with the assessment here, because survivalistic town would also not be making that vote. I'd argue that it's more scum!indicative then town, and that it gives + scum equity to the cw as scum are more likely to not be counter-voting on partners.

And yes, this happens. Trust me

[Iconeum]

don't get me wrong, i'm not opposing an EV flip

[tris]

VOTE: skitter

VOTE: skitter
Think she's trying to position herself tactically here

while this is, like, wrong, it's also a bonkers vote for scum to be making in this gamestate

(namely: he's currently the leading wagon. and is following his cw onto a vanity wagon that is extremely unlikely to get traction in the next (i think) 17 hours or whatever it is. survivalistic scum don't really make this vote)

oof. i think you're right. i noticed it earlier, but i didn't want to give up on my scumread, but it's actually a strong piece of evidence UNVOTE:

i disagree with the assessment here, because survivalistic town would also not be making that vote. I'd argue that it's more scum!indicative then town, and that it gives + scum equity to the cw as scum are more likely to not be counter-voting on partners.

And yes, this happens. Trust me

ok sure, ev is scum in that world though

[UnaBombaH]

is there a reason you've posted the same vote 4 times???? It's not like the mod is missing it

I'm starting my catchup from here, and I'm starting with the question - really?
You legitimately ask this from him, instead of just moving on with the assumption that he's kidding/trolling/whatever?
Ech.

Well I feel like 91 has the scum feels.

Mh, I might have an idea why you might think so I guess, but why do you think so? Do you think she overplayed her careless attitude with that?

I don't like this post.
I get a feeling of "we are on the same page here" - "what page are we on?".
One or the other my friend, not both.

I skimmed and it might just be that it's short and easy to understand but I agree with this - it's the most opportunistic seeming vote on tris. I read the repeat voting as a bit plus town though, felt too exuberant for scum.

I wouldn't ever read any AI-factors into someone joking like that.
It has no hidden agenda behind it since it's so blatant and obnoxiously "loud", but it doesn't help town at all either.
Literally null - literally noise. Can be fun at times though.

What does it mean to you that he is always voting tris again?

Why are people so adamant in finding reason there?
I'm almost 90% certain that nothing good can come out of demanding an answer for it.
If it's some elaborate plan to crumb anything PR-related, we do not want to know or talk about it.
If it's just for fun, we do not NEED to know or talk about it.
I'd just leave it be, and if that continues to be the only thing they commit to, then we just turbolynch them as a policy.

Huh, ok. Last time you were troubling with placing me on either side and were more leaning town on me for effort while I got scumread later by others for waffling, being hedgy etc.

Good to realize that Testarossa is very self-aware of their meta, and even more specifically of the previous game being talked about here.

How old was this game? If it's very fresh, it doesn't mean as much.

Good to see you are also thinking of tris as town (as I do). Can I interest you in voting Alch or where do you have your head at rn?

I guess I'm too late here to ask what made you townread tris at this point?
As of this post, I think my vote is still on her, and while I'm not up to speed with the current gamestate, by post 128 I haven't seen an actual reason to townread the slot either.

If you are the one who does the choking, isn't it as likely to be a bad thing for you, as it is for someone else?

???

I don't know what you're talking about.

I just came to a realization that if you are choking or drowning, it's either you doing it to someone else, or it's actually

happening to you

.
So if "I'm the one choking", it could mean that there's half a sausage in my throat, or that my hands are around someone elses! *queue the clown horn*