FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

[Cabd]

Vote Count D2-20

With 12 players alive, it will take 7 votes to eliminate a player.

Saber (5): Lancer, Beast, Caster, Assassin, Avenger
Moon Cancer (2): Berserker, Saber
Ruler (1): Foreigner


Phase Page Usage: 36/60

Day two will end in: (expired on 2020-09-27 22:00:00)

[Servant Caster]

VOTE: saber

a real person just doesn't have this opinion

[Servant Avenger]

I wish I could agree but due to witnessing humanity for my lifespan I can say that actually, this is par for the course.

[Servant Caster]

shit man i didn't need that dose of reality today

[Servant Alter Ego]

I mean, I generally suck at getting the numbers right in a calc like this sometimes, but clearly being able to NK 2 town for the price of one craters town's chances in the event we elim town when we're at the point where there are 3 more living town than living scum at daystart.

Does it matter in the end if town has been wrong enough that we get to that gameday? Maybe not. It's a different sort of ello, but it's ello. With a clear on Ruler, ok then.

Please don't let that gameday happen without a clear on Ruler.

[Servant Caster]

btw my role is looking for a certain trait or ability and is 100% worthless if there is no scum with that trait or attribute, and as part of my loverize i learned ruler's true name and he does have that trait or attribute

if he flips town there's some probability there is a scum out there that has it, though it's also quite possible my entire role pm is just a troll

[Servant Avenger]

I mean, I generally suck at getting the numbers right in a calc like this sometimes, but clearly being able to NK 2 town for the price of one craters town's chances in the event we elim town when we're at the point where there are 3 more living town than living scum at daystart.

Does it matter in the end if town has been wrong enough that we get to that gameday? Maybe not. It's a different sort of ello, but it's ello. With a clear on Ruler, ok then.

Please don't let that gameday happen without a clear on Ruler.

Why does every post you make sound like you're going to die.

[Servant Alter Ego]

I mean, I generally suck at getting the numbers right in a calc like this sometimes, but clearly being able to NK 2 town for the price of one craters town's chances in the event we elim town when we're at the point where there are 3 more living town than living scum at daystart.

Does it matter in the end if town has been wrong enough that we get to that gameday? Maybe not. It's a different sort of ello, but it's ello. With a clear on Ruler, ok then.

Please don't let that gameday happen without a clear on Ruler.

Why does every post you make sound like you're going to die.

Because I'm treating every gameday like my last. And treating every content-post like it will soon be something confirmed town said.

It's usually safe to assume my rolecard says I'm morbid town.

[Servant Alter Ego]

If Assassin still wants to elim saber after he checks in, I'll hammer. Or near deadline if he doesn't check in.

[Servant Alter Ego]

VOTE: saber

a real person just doesn't have this opinion

oh you.

[Servant Alter Ego]

7 hours.

And there needs to be at least another commitment to vote this wagon.

[Servant Beast]

UNVOTE:

I'm here. I'm like 10 pages behind though so I need to catch up and a quick skim of the last two is showing me some shenanigans happened?

[Servant Moon Cancer]

I am probably going to be around until the deadline.

(And am obviously pretty willing to vote Saber.)

Actually, this probably just saves me from having to do the reread I was planning on to make sure I got the Saber read right. I don't really believe the claim for a number of reasons; it looking like something scum

could

have isn't the biggest issue - it's more about the synergy of it. e.g. I don't believe he's a strongman vs an attribute with the only active ability he has being the NP, and that the NP is limited to even nights on top of that. Also, if I had that first/second ability tied in with that NP, I'd have made assumptions about what it means for the "man" attribute, but no mention of that. And finally, that upgrade is like... not what I was expecting when Saber v1 wrote:

My upgrade's pretty nice

[Servant Assassin]

Eye of the Mind - I can pick if trackers/watchers can see me.

Isn't that a straight-up scum ability?

[Servant Moon Cancer]

I'm trying to look beyond that, but yes.

I have an ability that makes me ascetic if I choose to use it (but it has an auxiliary effect if I choose to use it).

I probably won't be using it, but I reckon there are probably red herrings like that in a bunch of PMs.

[Servant Assassin]

Ascetic is a thing town can have sometimes, though. I suppose it won't hurt anything at this point to reveal I'm immune to day actions (as caster unfortunately found out). That...I mean, what does tracker/watcher immunity help with, there? He's not using night actions on anyone.

[Servant Moon Cancer]

Though the ability on its lonesome should probably be cause for concern, because I expect the red herrings, if active abilities, are probably similar in some way to my own. (e.g. I don't *just* become ascetic and I would have expected he doesn't *just* become a ninja if it was a real town ability - it's inelegant.)

[Servant Moon Cancer]

I mean, what does tracker/watcher immunity help with, there? He's not using night actions on anyone.

Yes, this is part of what I was referring to with my comment about synergy. It feels like stuff is being left out, obviously.

[Servant Assassin]

I'm okay with hammering. Was starting to increasingly dislike the way moon cancer has been approaching the last couple of phases, spent all day getting agitated thinking about it, but hopefully we hit scum here and I don't have to worry about it.

[Servant Rider]

Isn't saber at E-2?

[Servant Rider]

Looks like E-3, actually

[Servant Assassin]

Yes, I just mean anyone who's not voting Saber has my license to do so now, I don't see myself swinging anywhere else

[Servant Rider]

Aye aye, cap'n
VOTE: Saber

[Servant Moon Cancer]

as starting to increasingly dislike the way moon cancer has been approaching the last couple of phases

*shrug*

I've had much less free time to do things in mafia game during this day phase. I really still do have a lot of reading I want to do that I haven't gotten done yet.

Though I do want to make clear that I currently don't think Ruler is scum and I currently do think Lancer makes a decent amount of sense as scum.

I'm still not entirely sure on who makes the most sense as a fourth (even though I want it to be Rider just to make things simple). I could just be incorrect on my Ruler read I suppose, but I do think there are certain things he's said and done that are less likely to come from scum than town.

[Servant Alter Ego]

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