Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Noraa]

piirirational u r correct I don't have a read that's anywhere near confident outside of BM but that's bc besides his whole thing with me, I have seen nothing that really catches my attention here

[Noraa]

YAY finally got a page top

[TheGoldenParadox]

So far BM's the scummiest person here. I see his SR on me as trying to set up some easy limbait since I hear I tend to give off that first impression. Ofc we are still technically kinda in rvs so this is a fairly weak read but ye I will be putting this here for future reference of what I was thinking 3 pages into the game. First impressions can often help town find the scums so I'm not too sure if I found one but we'll see

I feel greatly bullied here btw
y'all tunnel hard
accuse me of using AtE if u wish. In a way it is asking u to stop tunneling this hard

The reason is that town is going to let the other scums do whatever tf they want.

Why is this a bad thing tho, we still get a scum for the trouble and we can worry about sorting the others later if this is TvS

my point is that we also need to be keeping an eye out for the other scums. I, for one want a BM lim today since I am literally so certain those aggressive pushes dont come from town. But I think while we are doing this, we should be keeping an eye out for the other scums.

to elaborate a bit on my read - nora right now is doing exactly to bm what they are accusing bm of doing to others. the hypocrisy is not lost. i don't see nora vs bm as TvT but right now I'm null on BM and scumreading nora, and i absolutely think this could be an SvS bussing episode.
i'm slightly confused as to why town would be this confident in a read that they have developed in the first few hours of the game? if you're THIS confident that BM is scum, then simply voting them and removing them (without "keeping an eye out" for the other scum) would give town a massive leg up. i'm looking at nora as potential scum, and i'm looking at BM as a potential scumpartner. piisirrational is looking pretty good to me right now, although i will acknowledge that i am biased towards analyzers/gamesolvers so i'm putting him as a null, maybe a slight townlean. although menalque is kinda annoying me with their posting frequency, i'm townleaning them because they seem at least a little bit genuine about trying to read the BM/Nora bandwagon. no one else has enough substance to be read right now.

to respond to #224 - no it didn't; most players haven't posted anything substantial yet.

[TheGoldenParadox]

EBWOP - sorry i meant bm/nora fight, not bandwagon.

[shellyc]

woah y'all are way too energetic

stop starting games at 4am. smh

VOTE: Noraa
52 lamisty, arguments to attack BM seem very artificial and forced, very fence-sitty play for example 130

dont concur with the read as BM as scum theatre though; will reread as at first glace VT claim is pretty realistic?

town vibes from menal + datisi, relaxed opening + attempts to solve BMvNoraa so townpoints to that

[shellyc]

you want me to vote for BM or noraa? no. i think theyre both prolly town. there are no other wagons, its an rvs vote. once everyone has posted then maybe ill have a legit scumread.

fence-sitty and trying to shrug off this interaction as TvT looks quite the scum move here

[Menalque]

-I don't like Menalque's exchange with Taylor where he questions Taylor why she is voting for someone who hasn't posted, and continues to push that despite Taylor making a very fair explanation. I'm scumleaning this slot at the moment.

Okay, let’s talk about this

Why do you think it isn’t scummy to catch up, give opinions on posts made by two players involved in prob the most significant relationship thus far in the game, and then essentially avoid that by sweeping it aside and calling it TvT after making posts that /do/ imply that you have opinions on the slots

[Menalque]

UNVOTE: until VC

[shellyc]

Serious thoughts on icon reading our PT and not responding to me in it especially after he specifically asked me to play in this game?

@Menalque is the PT claim a meme or actual claim

[shellyc]

Okay, let’s talk about this

Why do you think it isn’t scummy to catch up, give opinions on posts made by two players involved in prob the most significant relationship thus far in the game, and then essentially avoid that by sweeping it aside and calling it TvT after making posts that /do/ imply that you have opinions on the slots

why is this miraculously the next thing I was going to post

so +townpoints to that

[Menalque]

dont concur with the read as BM as scum theatre though; will reread as at first glace VT claim is pretty realistic?

What does this mean?

[Menalque]

Shelly either town or scum who has decided that I need to be pocketed

[Menalque]

Serious thoughts on icon reading our PT and not responding to me in it especially after he specifically asked me to play in this game?

@Menalque is the PT claim a meme or actual claim

Serious

[shellyc]

-I'm townleaning BM a bit because most of his posts are things I'd more likely see coming from town!BM than scum!BM. Just a gut feeling at the moment. Could change though.

this sounds like super forced?

piirational / taylor / noraa is this actually the solve

pedit: don't worry the pockets are comfortable

[Menalque]

I’m going to default to town just because of rand odds

[Menalque]

pedit: don't worry the pockets are comfortable

discomfort rising

[Menalque]

What do you make of BM’s displayed confidence level, shelly?

[Menalque]

and i'm looking at BM as a potential scumpartner.

This is a spicy take, you think BM would bus right out of the gate on page 2?

Also, yeah, sorry about the posting frequency I will be trying to dial it down, just gimme some leeway for the first day or so I’m v excited by this PL and that’s running through a bit

[shellyc]

gamblers fallacy LMAOOO

i have no idea how i roll scum that much

pedit: idk i dont see BM as very very confident at this stage? I think thats null even if you think BM's being confident as it's probs playstyle

[shellyc]

idrt BM would bus in that position and since i feel noraa is scum BM is probably townie

[Menalque]

Oh no, I just meant that any given player is more likely to be town than scum at rand (incidentally why it’s a good idea to approach all interactions in as good a faith *as you’re able to* because you prob are dealing with someone genuinely trying to communicate in most cases)

Do you not think BM is projecting an equivalent amount of confidence in noraa!scum as noraa I’d expressing in BM!scum?

[Noraa]

I want to say shelly voting me for reasons she knows very well don't apply since that is my play style means she is scum. However I'm fairly certain she would prolly try to kill off a LHF even as town. So that is making my read on her a bit wonky. Unlike the rest of the playerlist, shelly and Taylor do know pretty well that this is precisely my playstyle aorn

[Menalque]

Do you guys know each other from irl or from playing other games here or do you all have the same homesite?

[Noraa]

I was scum with shelly my first game of mafia

[TheGoldenParadox]

and i'm looking at BM as a potential scumpartner.

This is a spicy take, you think BM would bus right out of the gate on page 2?

Also, yeah, sorry about the posting frequency I will be trying to dial it down, just gimme some leeway for the first day or so I’m v excited by this PL and that’s running through a bit

all good! yeah i haven't been on the site in a while and don't have personal experience with anyone here i don't think; but i do think that scum opening with straight bussing on page 2 is reasonable and not completely irration
bussing is one of those things that you can WIFOM the hell out of though so i'll have to wait and see

side note: i've been reading the wiki to get up to speed on all the hip new sayings - has LyLo been replaced by ELo in its entirety or is LyLo still pretty commonly used?