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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:07 pm

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Vote Count 2.1

Umlaut (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Lost (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Random Canadian (0):
Dongempire (0):

No Elimination (0):

Not Voting (6): Umlaut, Aristophanes, Lost, Gamma Emerald, Random Canadian, Dongempire,

The Deadline for Day 2 is in 7 days on October 9th, in (expired on 2020-10-09 22:00:00).

With 6 alive, it is 4 to force someone to succumb to their fear or 3 to no eliminate.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:27 pm

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In post 474, Jingle wrote:
In post 472, Donempire wrote:@Jingle who wins if everyone dies at the same night?
If literally every player dies simultaneously, both win conditions are achieved. Mafia achieves parity and town eliminates all mafia.
If we knew this on day 1 we could have just all agreed to fearkill one another for the mutual win.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:37 pm

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Yesterday's vote records, for our convenience.

Umlaut:

Aristophanes:

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Sirius9121
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Gamma Emerald:

Kerset
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PookyTheMagicalBear
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Dongempire:



Kerset and Canadian cross-voting is something worth looking at closer, to decide whether it's SvS or SvT. On inspection, Canadian's vote on Kerset doesn't look at all like distancing to me:
In post 223, Random Canadian wrote:I don't like Kerset's play so far. Sheeping the thinking on Gamma and then a post that seems to trying to appear town by not hammering to have people be active. Kerset comments on the usefulness of Sirius's posts, when most of their's haven't been all that useful either.
I just don't believe scum!Canadian sees something his partner is doing specifically for the sake of picking up town cred, and pops in to say "yeah that's some LAMIST garbage all right" as opposed to either trying to award said town cred or (more likely) ignoring it. Willing to call him town for this. I already thought he was fairly town anyway though.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:51 pm

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Super delayed response:
In post 154, Donempire wrote:Of course, in reality, i also fear nothing (except ما اللعنة هل مجرد سخيف القول عن لي، وكنت قليلا الكلبة؟ سآخذ كنت أعرف أنني تخرجت أعلى صفي في قوات البحرية، ولقد شاركت في العديد من الغارات السرية على قناة ، ولدي أكثر من يقتل المؤكدة. انا تدربت في حرب الغوريلال) but i had to make something up so jingle wouldnt be mad
I ran it through Google Translate and lol'd.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:54 pm

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RC was the loudest voice against kerset. Ari sheeped that thought after he laid most of the groundwork. It should be TvS. What im interested in is when ari started to push kerset. I'll get back to you on that one.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:42 am

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In post 473, Umlaut wrote:
Here's my obvious "everyone already knew that, you idiot" statement for the evening:


Kerset was an actual wagon yesterday, if not one that was ever likely to hit majority, so we should probably go back and look at how people positioned themselves with regard to it.

I'll probably go ahead and do that myself at some point. Not likely to happen tonight though.
I agree.

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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:43 am

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Decide to present it*

Half-thought lol
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:20 am

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Very pleased with getting Kerset overnight! I am out of town for today so won't really be active, but will be back tomorrow as in Sunday.

Thanks for the voting records umlaut. It will be nice to go through that.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:50 am

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RC are you claiming the successful shot?
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:04 pm

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*crickets*
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:04 pm

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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:38 pm

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In post 472, Donempire wrote:
In post 469, Lost wrote:dong thoughts?
Right now, nothing. I'll have to examine the nightkill because pooky seems an absurdly safe kill. I assume it was made by a team not afraid of you, me or aristo. Not that im good

@Jingle who wins if everyone dies at the same night?
idgi. wouldn't they want to keep u and me arnd cuz we fought for kerset-town?
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:39 pm

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i have consulted webmd

i diagnose myself with apathy toward this game

some1 help
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:40 pm

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i will now pull a read out of my ass in hopes that this game once again comes alive

it's gamma/kerset
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:40 am

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In post 487, Lost wrote:i have consulted webmd

i diagnose myself with apathy toward this game

some1 help
Lol how about I state my read despite probably being another day or two to make a real case.
In post 488, Lost wrote:i will now pull a read out of my ass in hopes that this game once again comes alive

it's gamma/kerset
Gamma/Kerset is not something I believe. The tensions between the two did not look fake and I townread Gamma heavily off of those interactions yesterday.

Kerset/Dong makes huge sense to me though.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 486, Lost wrote:
In post 472, Donempire wrote:
In post 469, Lost wrote:dong thoughts?
Right now, nothing. I'll have to examine the nightkill because pooky seems an absurdly safe kill. I assume it was made by a team not afraid of you, me or aristo. Not that im good

@Jingle who wins if everyone dies at the same night?
idgi. wouldn't they want to keep u and me arnd cuz we fought for kerset-town?
I guess?
I honestly have no clue what the correct course of action would be for scum. I guess i would have killed me or you, since even though my reads were almost completely wrong i was still pretty active.
Idk though. After fucking up yesterday i kinda feel disincentivized to play. I'll iso aristo i guess
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:14 am

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wrong reads + active player = more confusion and dissonance in town.

anw ari, i look forward to your case whenever you feel its ready
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:02 am

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In post 311, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 276, Donempire wrote:Just modkill scum pls
In post 277, Jingle wrote:
Prodding Kerset.
:shifty:
Okay, Gamma is town
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:05 am

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Pretty sure scum is in {Aristophanes, Lost} by PoE: it's not me, it's not Gamma, it's not Canadian, I highly doubt it's Dong given how proactive and just regular-active they were yesterday (unless someone has a strong argument that this is in Dong's scumrange)
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:18 pm

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I mean, Gamma was towny well before that post.

Has Dong's activity been AI for you or is it merely the existence of said activity in an otherwise quiet game whicb leads you to townread them for it? I do not have meta on them to make a read based on it being within their scumrange so I will be considering it a possibility. Do you have said meta?
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:43 pm

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I've had a few games with Dong but I think it's always been town, so I don't know its scum range. I could probably afford to reread the posts themselves more closely but I seem to recall thinking they Dong was pretty towny d1 anyway, and I think it was more
overtly
trying to pilot the game ("are we all okay voting within my list of three?") than I normally expect from scum.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:51 pm

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In post 476, Umlaut wrote:
In post 474, Jingle wrote:
In post 472, Donempire wrote:@Jingle who wins if everyone dies at the same night?
If literally every player dies simultaneously, both win conditions are achieved. Mafia achieves parity and town eliminates all mafia.
If we knew this on day 1 we could have just all agreed to fearkill one another for the mutual win.
Actually, it may still be possible to arrange this?

Question for everyone:

(True/False) "I believe a mutual win is just as good as a win for my team only."

My answer is
True
.

If everyone says True to this then it is likely possible, with unanimous cooperation, to force a mutual win.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:15 am

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In post 483, Aristophanes wrote:RC are you claiming the successful shot?
I don't see any downsides to claiming it, so yeah I did scare Kerset to death last night :cool:
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:18 am

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In post 496, Umlaut wrote:
In post 476, Umlaut wrote:
In post 474, Jingle wrote:
In post 472, Donempire wrote:@Jingle who wins if everyone dies at the same night?
If literally every player dies simultaneously, both win conditions are achieved. Mafia achieves parity and town eliminates all mafia.
If we knew this on day 1 we could have just all agreed to fearkill one another for the mutual win.
Actually, it may still be possible to arrange this?

Question for everyone:

(True/False) "I believe a mutual win is just as good as a win for my team only."

My answer is
True
.

If everyone says True to this then it is likely possible, with unanimous cooperation, to force a mutual win.
False, why are we playing the game if we don't actually want to play the game? Also, I think that strat only works if everyone agrees to it D1 and scum doesn't switch their fears. Many problems with this idea.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:38 am

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Right now, I'm think the remaining scum is between Lost and Gamma. Dong was active D1 when as scum he could've let an inactive town coast, and I don't think as scum he would read his partner as "Kerset is always town" and have not much else reasoning behind it. I don't like Umlaut's last post about mutual win, but have been thinking they ar town for awhile and his interactions with Kerset don't look forced. A lot of the same feelings for Ari.

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