Mini Theme 2172: Great Idea Mafia - Game Over

[shellyc]

Town
redcardinal
titus
NPOM
username

TBD
everyone else

dont really like "free pass because i post a lot" either way

[shellyc]

I already clarified this exact point with echo. Don't use it again. My problem is the way you did things. you TR me but then say ur fine if I get limmed today. Shortly after you announce that its a SR now for no specific reason. You don't back up anything and instead shade me saying that I'm expecting people to TR me for talking a lot :/

*teaching moment*

There's a way of identifying town I use a lot, I dont have a name for it but it's basically trying to re-evaluate / sort between town and scum. It's different to flip-flopping because there's a trajectory involved instead of just a statement. I can see red is actually rethinking noraa's alignment after your defensiveness instead of playing in an agenda-y way

[Noraa]

Town
redcardinal
titus
NPOM
username

TBD
everyone else

dont really like "free pass because i post a lot" either way

I never said I need a "free pass because i post a lot" If anyone accuses me of this again, they get a scum lean for it. I never said it and y'all r twisting my words. I understand if people misunderstood but ive explained it twice now so stop with this argument.

Lel I disappeared off the TR list for no apparent reason except something that I already explained twice was a misrepresentation of my words. Shellys def not town this round.

[shellyc]

@noraa if you're town, not everyone that susses you must be scum aligned. a wrong push is different from a bad push

I think noraa's sudden hostility towards red is more personality than AI because they've done this as both alignments before
noraa tell me why you think red is autoscum after casting *some* suspicion on you. people dont stick with their reads and TR -> SR = re-evaluation

[Noraa]

That was not reevaluation. That was not caring if town got mislimmed.

[shellyc]

Lel I disappeared off the TR list for no apparent reason except something that I already explained twice was a misrepresentation of my words. Shellys def not town this round.

like

I dont think you're scum I feel like giving you a townpass for that response is unwarranted

@noraa do you think everyone that re-evaluates or changes their reads are scum
lockscumming d1 is >rand to be scum tbh, only one alignment has enough info early d1 to be confident 100% in reads

[shellyc]

That was not reevaluation. That was not caring if town got mislimmed.

redcardinal's push on you was because of overdefensiveness
overdefensiveness is a general scumtell
redcardinal rethinks and thinks you're scum

this is a very logical trajectory. quote where you think there is ignorance in the elimination because I dont see it. the way you push against red makes me think red is townier

[Noraa]

I've thought you were scum since long ago. Doesn't have anything to do with reevaluating not to mention you did have the worst reason to remove me from ur TRs.

No. The events go down like this:
Red TRs me
Then Red says its fine to lim me
ten billion posts later they say they SR me

[Noraa]

You know what scratch all that. I misread red's post. I thought it said to kill herta, shelly, or me and that was the order of preference

[Noraa]

I didn't realize it said to kill me if shelly flips red

[Noraa]

that logics still trash cuz red shelly flip does not equal scum!Noraa but anyways that does make much more sense than what I originally thought it meant

[shellyc]

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ok now tell me why you think me re-evaluating YOU because your reaction to being put in a lynchpool was bad and because high level of confidence early game is >rand chance of scum

[shellyc]

Red TRs me
Then Red says its fine to lim me
ten billion posts later they say they SR me

still i dont understand why this is scum!AI because changing reads is fine and usually with logical reasons, town!AI

[Noraa]

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ok now tell me why you think me re-evaluating YOU because your reaction to being put in a lynchpool was bad and because high level of confidence early game is >rand chance of scum

you never explained it which is scummy but either way my SR on u is not solely bc of that so there's no point in pushing at one point that u think is weak.

[shellyc]

Lol? I just explained why I took you away from my townblock?

ok then tell me why you SR me. because of everyones favourite meta and because I can never improve at town and play a measured and dashing game

[Noraa]

sure if you wanna say it super meanly, yes

[shellyc]

I'm self aware of my meta. if I play exactly the same in all my scumgames I'll never get another scum victory.

also alas I can improve at my towngame after people give me feedback and learn how to obvtown and present my susses in an eloquent way.

[Noraa]

I don't buy it

[shellyc]

If you're town tunnel visioning in a TvT conflict is useless and you've been in quite a few TvT conflicts recently as far as I know

[Noraa]

If you're town tunnel visioning in a TvT conflict is useless and you've been in quite a few TvT conflicts recently as far as I know

alert: ongoing games

u can't say anything about those + I haven't flipped so u dk

[shellyc]

alert: ongoing games

u can't say anything about those + I haven't flipped so u dk

nah not ongoing games, I think in newbie 2029 you were on all the town elims? didnt read through most of it though

[Noraa]

alert: ongoing games

u can't say anything about those + I haven't flipped so u dk

nah not ongoing games, I think in newbie 2029 you were on all the town elims? didnt read through most of it though

.....uhhhh there were three elims. 1st one I hammered scum. 2nd one I unvoted town too late(I was the E-1 vote on plusjoyed). 3rd one I put last scum at E-1.

[Noraa]

There were no TvT fights that you *claim* happened

[redcardinal]

noraa shelly how do you feel about a townbloc

[NoPowerOverMe]

Woman power unite!