Open 796: Haunted Village Game Over

[Noraa]

not a fan of the isis vote

that's bc isis joined you on the zofelf wagon

[PlusJOYED]

norwee we've played with scum noraa before
can you elab more on your noraa scumread
peddit: nah there are other reasons too. I feel like RC is flailing a bit rn

[Random Canadian]

not a fan of the isis vote

nah there are other reasons too. I feel like RC is flailing a bit rn

Do you not like the vote because you think I'm flailing or because you don't agree with my reasoning? Both?

[Noraa]

norwee we've played with scum noraa before
can you elab more on your noraa scumread
peddit: nah there are other reasons too. I feel like RC is flailing a bit rn

1)the games ongoing so don't u dare say anything about that
2)plus you have more experience with scum Noraa than norwee. why are you not trying to solve me? All I see is you agreeing with Taylor that I'm hard to solve and then asking Norwee to solve me. Can't you solve me urself? I don't think town!plus hesitates to solve me rn or talks about me this much while never directly solving. I could see town!plus completely avoiding me bc he is not confident he can solve me or actively trying hard to solve me. I cannot see town!plus actively engaging me but backing away from solving and finding millions of excuses when no one even asked. You seem to think you have to talk about me to keep me not suspicious of u but you want to just go with the flow and blend into the rest of town.

I will be putting pressure here.

VOTE: Plus

[Noraa]

Plus you seem to want someone else to take the lead and SR or TR me so that u can follow in their shadows.
This means if anything goes wrong, they die and you can just blame it on them leading u astray.

[Noraa]

I don't think ur being towny here.

[Noraa]

norwee we've played with scum noraa before
can you elab more on your noraa scumread
peddit: nah there are other reasons too. I feel like RC is flailing a bit rn

1)the games ongoing so don't u dare say anything about that
2)plus you have more experience with scum Noraa than norwee. why are you not trying to solve me? All I see is you agreeing with Taylor that I'm hard to solve and then asking Norwee to solve me. Can't you solve me urself? I don't think town!plus hesitates to solve me rn or talks about me this much while never directly solving. I could see town!plus completely avoiding me bc he is not confident he can solve me or actively trying hard to solve me. I cannot see town!plus actively engaging me but backing away from solving and finding millions of excuses when no one even asked. You seem to think you have to talk about me to keep me not suspicious of u but you want to just go with the flow and blend into the rest of town.

I will be putting pressure here.

VOTE: Plus

To make this clear, plus has been in a game where I was scum that is currently finished. I told him not to talk about ongoing games cuz that's the specific one he's referring to. Norwee has zero finished games with me whereas plus has one finished game with me where I was scum.

[Battle Mage]

i like Random Canadian and Taylor for scum distancing.

[Jewel Barons]

back to this and oh boy there's more pages than I thought there were when looking at this from my main.

-GAMMA

[Exorcists]

I’ve finished my exorcism.

I read Taylor’s posts back and kind of changed my mind. If that move had the motivation I was thinking of, it’d be brilliant, but I don’t know if it does realistically. I still think Battle Mage’s stance comes from a town POV though.

she's probably just brazen scum. i recently played another open setup with taylor and she was scum and made a similar move on day 1 - openly trying to encourage town to make an obviously anti-town play. inexplicably she survived until day 3...

@Battle Mage, I’m still interested in this. Can you summarise how she did this and link please?

—Alice

[Exorcists]

@egotisi, it’s been a while since you voted, and after expressing suspicion on Murdercat, you didn’t vote him. Is he your strongest scumread? Where are you at the moment?

I also disagree with Noraa’s latest posting. Plus seems fine and I feel like he’s talking without a filter which I like. I don’t see any of the mentioned motivations. Not sure if it’s just disagreement or scummy though.

Update: I no longer like hydras. I'm not even gonna solve this slot. their dang opinions change around every two minutes. too difficult. someone else do it.

I know this is a joke, but it’s a good point. I’ll talk to my other heads more to give less opinion whiplash. Could always sort our logic though.

—Exorcist Alice

[MURDERCAT]

@Battle Mage, I’m still interested in this. Can you summarise how she did this and link please?

I asked and didn't get a response I don't think. I believe it refers to one of these:

viewtopic.php?p=12126543#p12126543
viewtopic.php?p=12128504#p12128504

[Exorcists]

Thanks, Murderous Cat. I’ll look at those sometime.

—Alice

[Jewel Barons]

This cuts into why I think speculating is a BAD idea. I think we have a limited number of VTs to the point where the apparent gain isn't as strong as one might initially think.

Also I'm not impressed by BM's treatment of Tay so far.

This appears to be inconsistent. Will you explain yourself?

If you explain what is inconsistent, sure.

i don't like it either. it's like he's going for something that's safe to push even though from what i checked he's played with her a bunch and he should know messin around from her isn't a reason to think she's scum or whatever

I just think he's got some sort of compulsion to ruin every game Taylor is in.

Yeah I was kind of thinking that as well, but for the sake of the game I'm explicitly trying not to let that color my decision making.

I appreciate your mindset. Rather than try to exploit something that's not really a spew you decide to look past it.

I saw there were many hydras and that sounds funsies
so I came

Hello, I can be your friend, looks like everyone else doesn't want to : )

*snip* say no more. self meta is not valuable

Is it now?

Quotewalling a bunch of things you don't have alignment conclusions from comes from scum more than town. I thought she might have thought it was scummy and was hoping to argue with her about it but it just seems narraty.

Can you provide the evidence for this because that's not accurate imo

I’d be willing to consider the former. I think you are zooming too far in to a concrete box of “things town does”

Ninja-
There’s not even a wagon on you at this point. Why the fatalism?

I'm townreading Cobra Kai for this plus his post before this one

why are you already tunneling battle mage? It's page 10
I think that looks like an excuse to tunnel a town
I'd probably vote battle mage if they got gladiated with taylor

I don't really like this post. Seems a bit overeager to pick a side?

why are you already tunneling battle mage? It's page 10
I think that looks like an excuse to tunnel a town
I'd probably vote battle mage if they got gladiated with taylor

battle mage literally always tunnels me.

this is not true.

Is it, though?

-GAMMA

[Jewel Barons]

I think its his normal play which is coolio and all but rn tunneling isnt gonna help us get a Taylor lim even if she is scum :/

ehhh disagree
if a tunnel nets a scum elim its a good tunnel

Not if it makes the game unfun. RadiantCowbells is the chief example of that point.

noraa *should* be easy to sort before long.

I agree with this tbh

I want to pull some OMGUSy shit on Isis rn cuz I dont agree with the reasoning behind voting me but I also feel like I tend to act weird in games where ik almost everyone cuz I tend to relax and just do whatever tf I want to and it feels less like a game of mafia and more like an episode of Noraa chats with friends

I kinda like this from Noraa

I explained why ur a scum lean.

I dont just vote my scum leans. I like taking my time

ok

Immediately paranoid of Noraa.

- Norwee

Why is this, my dear hydra partner?

Update: I no longer like hydras.

Starting to townread xofelf a little

who's throwing shade (are you talking about scumreading?)?

I feel like there were a couple of "yeah xofelf seems kinda suss but I'm gunna vote over here instead for now." I could go look for them but I felt like I saw that a couple times. It makes me suspicious of the people who were doing that more so than xofelf, but there is chance that they were posting that to setup a future bus if needed but don't want to vote there yet. But that's reading way too much into it. I'm voting there because I like inflating wagons.

Thinking this is a town post

rather xofelf made an excuse for you to defend you (i.e. anti-town rather than scum).

This wording angers me, not really for alignment based reasons but I just don't like how he immediately calls it an excuse

Gamma idk what ur doing, but please tell me you see what i'm seeing.

- Norwee

Sorry mate, but I don't see it.

I'd move my vote to a spot I agreed with more out of Norskee's SRs but he doesn't seem to have any rn (we don't really have a PT, it seems like we've decided to just talk in thread which will get messy if we're gonna disagree a lot) so I'll just vote Plus because I think Noraa raises some good points there and Plus seems to be trying to maintain positioning
VOTE: PlusJOYED

-GAMMA

[MURDERCAT]

we don't really have a PT, it seems like we've decided to just talk in thread which will get messy if we're gonna disagree a lot

townslip?

[Cobra Kai]

I disagree. I’m actually more skeptical of them because of it- I think “discussions in thread” could very easily turn into scum faking doing things.

[Noraa]

@egotisi, it’s been a while since you voted, and after expressing suspicion on Murdercat, you didn’t vote him. Is he your strongest scumread? Where are you at the moment?

I also disagree with Noraa’s latest posting. Plus seems fine and I feel like he’s talking without a filter which I like. I don’t see any of the mentioned motivations. Not sure if it’s just disagreement or scummy though.

Update: I no longer like hydras. I'm not even gonna solve this slot. their dang opinions change around every two minutes. too difficult. someone else do it.

I know this is a joke, but it’s a good point. I’ll talk to my other heads more to give less opinion whiplash. Could always sort our logic though.

—Exorcist Alice

U ever played a game with him before? I definitely feel like my read is fairly accurate considering I've played quite a bit with plus(the ongoing I will not mention) Also thank you please do make sure all ur heads say the same thing cuz if all town sees from ur slot is "blah is really sus. nah blah is actually pretty town. Nono blah is sus", we cannot solve you. I was not joking. If ur slot continued to shift opinions all the time, I was going to just ignore ur slot and honestly, tho I hate policy lims, I would suggest it. The other two hydras have less people(only two in both cases) and their opinions are somewhat the same. Urs is the only one that isn't consistent at all.

I saw there were many hydras and that sounds funsies
so I came

Hello, I can be your friend, looks like everyone else doesn't want to : )

*snip* say no more. self meta is not valuable

Is it now?
-GAMMA

I-
Gamma why u gotta bully me
but also don't reply to a post if ur only gonna say "is it now" cuz that could lean either way and is rather confusing when trying to read u. Instead of "is it now" just say "I disagree" or "I agree"

I disagree. I’m actually more skeptical of them because of it- I think “discussions in thread” could very easily turn into scum faking doing things.

I interpreted it as normally hydras all have private threads and mod hadn't given them theirs yet. But ig that is not how it works?

[Noraa]

No one defend or sus plus. I don't wish for him to have anything to work off of yet. I want to hear his reply before anyone defends or susses him.

[MURDERCAT]

I interpreted it as normally hydras all have private threads and mod hadn't given them theirs yet. But ig that is not how it works?

I would guess they explicitly asked for one

[Noraa]

I interpreted it as normally hydras all have private threads and mod hadn't given them theirs yet. But ig that is not how it works?

I would guess they explicitly asked for one

idk I never been a hydra before :/

[Cobra Kai]

Hydras are responsible for their own communication, whether it be by quick topic, Skype, discord, what have you. The mods have nothing to do with it. I’m saying their lack of using a third party (and declaring it) seems like a copout to give the illusion of staying busy.

I’ll see more as the game progresses.

[Exorcists]

we don't really have a PT, it seems like we've decided to just talk in thread which will get messy if we're gonna disagree a lot

townslip?

Why is this a townslip?

U ever played a game with him before? I definitely feel like my read is fairly accurate considering I've played quite a bit with plus(the ongoing I will not mention) Also thank you please do make sure all ur heads say the same thing cuz if all town sees from ur slot is "blah is really sus. nah blah is actually pretty town. Nono blah is sus", we cannot solve you. I was not joking. If ur slot continued to shift opinions all the time, I was going to just ignore ur slot and honestly, tho I hate policy lims, I would suggest it. The other two hydras have less people(only two in both cases) and their opinions are somewhat the same. Urs is the only one that isn't consistent at all.

This is my first time in a hydra and I did just say I would try so this was a bit unpleasant. No, I haven't played with Plus.

—Alice

[MURDERCAT]

Why is this a townslip?

They would have a scum PT

[Noraa]

U ever played a game with him before? I definitely feel like my read is fairly accurate considering I've played quite a bit with plus(the ongoing I will not mention) Also thank you please do make sure all ur heads say the same thing cuz if all town sees from ur slot is "blah is really sus. nah blah is actually pretty town. Nono blah is sus", we cannot solve you. I was not joking. If ur slot continued to shift opinions all the time, I was going to just ignore ur slot and honestly, tho I hate policy lims, I would suggest it. The other two hydras have less people(only two in both cases) and their opinions are somewhat the same. Urs is the only one that isn't consistent at all.

This is my first time in a hydra and I did just say I would try so this was a bit unpleasant. No, I haven't played with Plus.

—Alice

I thought I made it clear I was happy you were going to talk with your other heads but I'm sorry if that came off as offensive.