Death Curse

[Noraa]

I asked how many scums there are. If I was scum, I would literally just be like ok so with 4 scums here, blah blah blah. Do you really think that's not a more convincing town slip?

[Noraa]

there are so many people who have tried to come up and say "Noraa is town, Noraa is town" in soft ways and even some using meta and I'm just like...

well when you are the one saying we need to wait to solve pooky for META REASONS, you cannot say shit to any of them

[MURDERCAT]

start working with us on who you'll pass the scroll to and why

This is good advice Noraa if you are actually town. You can still play to your wincon as town even if you die, that's exactly what I did in Roses.

[Theta Alpine]

i also expect that anyone who is highly scum read will likely be passed the scroll
so i see no reason to vote noraa the scroll when we can vote someone else the scroll and noraa still gets it today

[Noraa]

Literally u are just being hypocritical and mean. Telling me to be less defensive I'm my grave. Seriously?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD I'm supposed to get excited about the second scroll holder having an 80% chance to be town when all players in this game have a 75% chance to be town?

How are you this fucking bad at understanding basic principles.

In the 20% they are scum it DOESN'T MATTER. We've reached out max and best outcome we can get for that day, and more importantly, they will just kill a townie without any input from us.

SO WE CAN IGNORE THAT WORLD.

It's 100 percent that if they start talking and working with us, they're town in that slot, which is huge info.

Because the first cursed person that isn't exactly true for. Once they're dead, their goal is to convince us they are town and hand the scroll to a townie without looking too bad so we don't know we're in a good spot.

how do you not get this?

I follow now.
I disagree with expected first-scroll holder play because I expect first-scroll-scum to just be shameless with the pass a lot of the time. But that's an opiniony part, I follow the logic of it now.

I happen to agree with you about that, but here's the thing: If they vanity shot that's okay we treat them as scum. Like, shooting an obvious townie has consequences, right?

Like doesn't it feel like Noraa is trying to build an "I'm so upset, oops I shot LLD cause I was so mad teehee" defense?

to pretend she isn't scum when she shoots me, despite calling me town who is "in over my head"?

So here's the deal. If she shoots me, she's scum and we operate on that perspective. If she's not scum and did it, she's gamethrowing and would have game thrown no matter what so who cares? lol

[Noraa]

I fucking said I have a problem of being too defensive and I'm self reflecting and trying to make it better and u tell me I should go do it in my grave.

[MURDERCAT]

noraa still gets it today

We get the info sooner if we start with Noraa

[Lady Lambdadelta]

there are so many people who have tried to come up and say "Noraa is town, Noraa is town" in soft ways and even some using meta and I'm just like...

well when you are the one saying we need to wait to solve pooky for META REASONS, you cannot say shit to any of them

Oh it's not a meta reason. Pooky is just playing old school mafia. I don't read him as scum, he makes me laugh, and he's agreeing and mind melding with me.

Doesn't mean he's confirmed town, but it means I don't wanna kill him so eh?

It's not meta, it's practicality. You consider that slot only when I'm dead.

[Noraa]

Doesn't mean he's confirmed town, but it means I don't wanna kill him so eh?

You are just being selfish. Not everyone thinks from your point of view.

[Noraa]

You consider that slot only when I'm dead.

again who tf do you think you are?

[Theta Alpine]

noraa still gets it today

We get the info sooner if we start with Noraa

what info

we only get the info once she flips
which will be at the same time as everyone else who got the scroll

[Hopkirk]

I'm skimming 'cause thirty pages
Doing more would just takes ages
Plus I like the hyperposters
Much more than the no post coasters

I trust that Noraa received several votes for that? So I'll hold off for a moment.

UNVOTE:

Ok let's clarify something rq. I asked Cabd to bring me along to spectate the next game he was going to spectate. He said he was gonna spectate this game and that I was in it already. I was at the time, not even aware of this games existence. I checked out this game and saw it was modded by hectic and was like ooooo sounds fun! so then I directly inned. I don't read setup. Everyone says that I town slip as scum. So to be completely honest, a lot of the "townslips" aren't even town slips for me cuz I legitimately don't pay attention to the OPs. Pooky since you referenced Mafiasunny, I was a mafia goon that game and I legitimately asked my partners in the pt if there were town prs. Dumb question ig you could say and considering my partners were voyeur and Roleblocker, it should've been pretty obvious there were prs. I didn't read any of the setup in that game either and submitted actions in the pt when the mod directly said you had to pm him. I literally do not read OPs of games with setups I've never played in before(that was my first mini theme). I want to reference two different games as well but they're ongoing so I can't but regardless I only skim OPs and sometimes I dont even do that. In this case, I did not read anything believe it or not.

I do not understand. Why did you feel the need to ask how many scum are in the setup rather than looking? If you thought this setup was closed, why would one of the designers/reviewers (Isis) play it?

I am playing with the idea you're just easy elimbait, but what an odd question to ask.

I dislike this, it's fence-sitty
The first sentence is a pitty

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Votecount 1.4

[9] Noraa:

UNOwen, Lady Lambdadelta, Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, PookyTheMagicalBear, Adorable, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, shellyc

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Tayl0r Swift

[2] shellyc:

VaultDweller, Bell

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Isis

[1] Bell:

Lapsa

[1] Adorable:

Noraa

[5] Not Voting:

Gloria Cleary, MUSHSHAGANA, Theta Alpine, Fidget, Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

Whether nora flips bad or not
It feels like bussing we have got
Most likely scum on the wagon
Feels like Ador or Unowen

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I fucking said I have a problem of being too defensive and I'm self reflecting and trying to make it better and u tell me I should go do it in my grave.

Yes. Because you phrased it like you were going to live.

I want to be clear about something, okay? I'm not bullying you, I'm setting you realistic expectations. It doesn't matter what you do from this point on today, you're going to die.

So the best thing you can do is to stop opining about how you'll do better to look more town, and start trying to actually leave a last will of who you think is scummy and who you will shoot.

[Noraa]

you are so full of yourself that I literally want to OMGUS but I fucking can't cuz scum is never this bold. I hate OMGUSing but sometimes people just tunnel me so much, I get angry and do it. You literally are making me so angry but I'm like 99% sure scum wouldn't be this fucking bold and tunnel me this hard considering they would literally know I would flip green.

[MURDERCAT]

what info

we only get the info once she flips
which will be at the same time as everyone else who got the scroll

Who she passes to is absolutely critical info that is indicative of the eventual flip.

[Theta Alpine]

and who you will shoot.

absolutely not

i thought you agreed that this was a terrible thing to do

[Toogeloo]

All you guys are doing is clogging up the thread. The vast majority of casual players are not going to read 30 pages a day. I didn't even read the last 20 pages. People... Will... Get... Bored.

There is literally no point to stalling this out since you are not getting out of the first 3 scroll passes, 100% guaranteed.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

you are so full of yourself that I literally want to OMGUS but I fucking can't cuz scum is never this bold. I hate OMGUSing but sometimes people just tunnel me so much, I get angry and do it. You literally are making me so angry but I'm like 99% sure scum wouldn't be this fucking bold and tunnel me this hard considering they would literally know I would flip green.

You can OMGUS me if you want, the problem is at this point you have already found me as town.

So you're either going to go against your own town read, or you're faking the town read.

Either way, shooting me is a scum claim, and I'm okay with that.

Infact I'm expecting it?

But like, I want to cut off any expectation that if you are scum you can shoot me and pretend you were just "too mad".

Like I am expecting to die, so I'm okay with it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

and who you will shoot.

absolutely not

i thought you agreed that this was a terrible thing to do

Her discussing it with us before she dies so we can hold her to it =/= us deciding for her.

How do you not get this?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

what info

we only get the info once she flips
which will be at the same time as everyone else who got the scroll

Who she passes to is absolutely critical info that is indicative of the eventual flip.

All you guys are doing is clogging up the thread. The vast majority of casual players are not going to read 30 pages a day. I didn't even read the last 20 pages. People... Will... Get... Bored.

There is literally no point to stalling this out since you are not getting out of the first 3 scroll passes, 100% guaranteed.

MC is completely correct and so is Toog.

We just need to kill Noraa already and stop stagnating the game, please.

[Noraa]

You are literally tempting me to rage kill you. I ragekilled someone in my last game.
You are literally provoking me with every post. Asserting that you are superior and everyone needs to listen to you. But you did NOTHING but tunnel me. you do NOT deserve the town leader position.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh and Noraa?

I'm completely full of myself. I have to have confidence in mafia, or what is the point? I can't belabour worlds where I am wrong and hemm and haww and hesitate.

Is there a chance you could be town, Noraa? Yes. There's a chance anyone could be town right now.

Does that chance give me pause and want to let you live? No. Never. You're high enough odds of being scum that I feel like this is a positive outcome. We learn a lot either way.

So I'm begging you to stop struggling and trying to live and start considering who is scum and talking to me about your opinions on the game because you're not going to survive, so it's way more useful.

[Theta Alpine]

and who you will shoot.

absolutely not

i thought you agreed that this was a terrible thing to do

Her discussing it with us before she dies so we can hold her to it =/= us deciding for her.

How do you not get this?

oh you said something different

telling mafia who we would pass the vote to should probably be secret though for a similar reason to not giving a list of people to pass to

also it is not who noraa passes the scroll to
it is who scum passes the scroll to
if we still hit scum then we get the same amount of information if it was noraa or not

[Toogeloo]

I don't give a shit, pass the scroll to me. Position 2 is a great position if I'm going to go out.