Death Curse

[MURDERCAT]

Pooky if 9207 convinces you over 9197 then..

Bell there's only 2 posts you need to read

[Fidget]

I have emotional town tells as well, but I haven't pointed to any of them because like I said it's all junk

You are a lot more guarded with your emotions than Noraa.

I have 1000 fair unrestrained emotional posts from noraa and they all scream town town town.

you are more careful/guarded

I feel like Noraa has done nothing to help me think Murder/Bell are scum, done barely anything to show me her thought process when she flip flopped between them today, and I still don't understand where she is at. The only good thing going for her is emotional tells at this point.

Murdercat is actually trying to win and actually comes off as townier by far in comparison. Maybe that's telling in itself..? I don't know. I agree with Bell that scum more or less didn't interact with Murdercat.

At this current moment in time I would never bless Murdercat's death but I might get there nearing deadline, ESPECIALLY if I get the posts I requested of Noraa (She might have already given them, I haven't fully reread yet).

[Noraa]

I wanna perform a blessing!!

*gets some holy water*
*dumps it on pooky*

:3

[Bell]

Those two posts aren't helpful at all.
If anything Noraa's is better than yours because there are things she thinks she absolutely wouldn't do as scum whereas you talk in the third person you even say "I didn't push Fred in a way that looks like a bus"
Which implies that it was a bus that you took care to make sure didn't look like one.

This entire game has the key to the solve. Not just those two posts that truly aren't helpful to me at all.

[Noraa]

I think I've made my stance p clear. Bell is attempting to solve and is a paranoid townie as shown by the flip flopped whereas murder is just a parrot repeating "Noraa is scum" over and over again.

Bell obvtowned very well. If this is his scum game, as I have said multiple times, he deserves to win. I think that's it for bell.

I'm paranoid of both in one way or another but I think Bell's recent posting is hitting all the right spots.

[Noraa]

Bell's last few pages are extremely townie. Like really really townie.

[Noraa]

I think Murder is trying to pull of a stubborn lylo townie look and furiously looking thru his pt for arguments shelly prolly already drafted out.

[Noraa]

*off

[Noraa]

The reaction to the Fidget wagon was a huge scum tell. Based off that alone, I'm willing to lock scum Murder asap.

[Fidget]

I do think Fidget is right that I don't think the scum team expected this scenario to occur.
I don't think they're so far sited that they would lay that much bus ground work for Noraa and then...Just have her flip town. It would be crazy amounts of reverse psychology.

Lmao imagine

[MURDERCAT]

The reaction to the Fidget wagon was a huge scum tell. Based off that alone, I'm willing to lock scum Murder asap.

And yet you are only now saying it.
I'm not frustrated. I think that there is more evidence that I am town than you and I am proving.
Stuff like this that shows your reads are fake is part of it

[Noraa]

I don't even think they thought of this. I think they were just like huh lets go set some people up.

They set up a bunch of things this game.

They set up my death. LLD pass. Titus and DGB both pushing me hard etc.
They set up pooky's death. shelly's buddying. passing to Taylor.
They set up hopkirk's death. every one of the scums shaded hopkirk if I remember correctly?
I think they set up Adorable to some extent as well.

[Noraa]

The reaction to the Fidget wagon was a huge scum tell. Based off that alone, I'm willing to lock scum Murder asap.

And yet you are only now saying it.
I'm not frustrated. I think that there is more evidence that I am town than you and I am proving.
Stuff like this that shows your reads are fake is part of it

No it looks much weirder with a pooky green flip. I also didnt connect the dots until I reread cuz they were two separate posts. One said that we lost the game. The other said that if pooky was green we lost the game.

[Bell]

how is it inconsistent?

LLD and Pooky are town and were town blocking me. It doesn't make sense for me to turn on them if there was a plan to get me to the end. I would have stuck with them instead. I would have passed to you in stead of Tayl0r to force a new final 2 that possibly includes me.

Imo its the people that TR you that you can SR and not worry too much about getting a SR in response :/

I didn't expect this game to be so fast-paced. I honestly can't keep up. I see the noraa wagon dissipated. Why? Who is/are the new wagon/s?

I think pooky and Swift are both town and should direct their energies outward.

LLD is in charge, Noraa had a weird fake looking town slip. She is upset so might actually be town, but we have to just vote her and advance the day. She threatened to shoot LLD despite town reading her which looks a lot like an excuse shoot her as scum. If Noraa is town it's probably Pooky imo. Because LLD and Pooky don't want LLD shot, they are looking at hopkirk first, with the intention of handing Noraa last so that she doesn't get a shot. I kind of think that's dumb, I just want to pass to Noraa first and get the info.

Mush looks like town, I think fidget looks like town, hot take is that taylor seems like town

Mush looks like town, I think fidget looks like town, hot take is that taylor seems like town

ok these are good reads

I can see town murder

LLD's posts do look pretty town, quick glance at her voting looks genuine.

consensus-er?

I was rather torn on your pred so give me those townvibes

fwiw vault has requested replacement and voting inactive doesn't help at all so ehhhh that iso doesn't really ping me either way

This is probably scum.

isn't the pro scum play here to just. bus Noraa and get LLD and misdirect LLD

I don't get scum motivation to sit on their hands on Noraa slot
they just bus Noraa with LLD impossible to marginalise now

isn't Lapsa a lurker as either align

A decent part of my Zdenek townread, looking to be one of my spicier reads atm, is that blatantly bad 'we should do this strategy' style posts come from newbtown from a good place (which I get in the tone of their follow ups to me in regard to it), not newbscum trying to fake content.

ehhhh

but the easiest way of fake content is a mech oriented approach

also this feels like a game which I can solve through PoE
murder/mush/Taylor/fidget/hopkirk
these are town slots

This is probably scum.

isn't the pro scum play here to just. bus Noraa and get LLD and misdirect LLD

This is what I feel like is happening with Pooky tbh. But this exactly why I want to just do Noraa and work off that. Like I said, let LLD work and sorry through it all later

This is what I feel like is happening with Pooky tbh. But this exactly why I want to just do Noraa and work off that. Like I said, let LLD work and sorry through it all later

murder you're scum reading Pooky?

im slightly opinionated by the pooky-taylor and am gunna reread again there, because that's not giving me any TvT gutvibes

but overall im still majorly town on Pooky for one of the pioneers of the Noraa wagon instead of someone like UNO, who is coasting it all through

murder you're scum reading Pooky?

It's more like there's a lot of worlds where Pooky is scum here, and I can see motivation for Pooky trying to get in early with me and LLD. Like I can easily see how Pooky could be scum, if that makes sense.

Also, FYI Pooky never gets the scroll today

As far as scum using LLD, If they were smart, they would steer clear of that

This is part of why I think Tayl0r is town

@shellyc

Whos inactive and whos voting them?

a lot of people

I was referring to hopkirk wanting vault

Isn't this the exact order you wanted to hear though? You picked 4 people you thought were obvtown, one slight town, and one suspicious (all reads you'd said) then Uno's order didn't conflict with that at all. What was your logic behind those specific 6 being the listing?

scum would want to shade consensus TRs and I wanted to find that in UNO

scum do not have a nightkill

the only way to get a nightkill is to sacrifice one of their members
thus in here they will have to give more effort to shade consensus TRs so they can miselim them at some point

Help me again.

[Bell]

zdenek is still trying to play in a way that credits himself as capable depending on how people flip.
For Pooky and Taylor he says they're both town which makes him look good later because they are.
1381 and 1382
Are killing me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hot take: what if the reason I never got the scroll earlier was because the scum were scared I was going to scroll MurderCAT!?!

HURT: MurderCat

[Bell]

Shelly and Murdercat's interactions continue to bother me.
She fake town reads him in a way that she likes to do with her scum partners. It was extremely, extremely late.

1381 and 1382 reveal a secondary mindset that wifoms me to hell and back my brain literally rejected what she was saying here because of how confusing it is given where her partners were when said this.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bell why is your WIM higher as town than scum?

[Bell]

Believe it not, being scum stresses me out more than being town.
Eventually I would just break down instead of trying harder.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but this is the end either way

[Bell]

It's a heavy cognitive load for me basically, I don't have the resilience really.
I'd have simply burnt out and my play would be more straight forward right now when it comes to elo play.

I would select someone, find a weakness of theirs and then push it all day and hope for the best. My play is less dynamic and fluid as scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That doesn't explain why you do not want to win as much as scum as you would as town.

[Bell]

I'm also a lot less imaginative, I solve less, I shirk work more than I usually would and I'm more involved in the narrative because I fake simulate a town Bell narrative in my head.
My interactions with my partners though?
Absolutely garbage. Probably the easiest way to read me is if I've talked to every player in the player list more than 3-5 times.

[Bell]

Because the mental effort has to be backed up with some sort of reward.
I don't get a dopamine hit for fooling people.
I do if I solve right though.

Another way to say it is that regardless of anything else we're creatures of cost-benefit analysis sometimes.

In this case the cost of playing well as scum versus town isn't the same as town versus scum.
Just motivationally I play mafia to solve and understand the intentions of others so I have more of an identity attachment too.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean right now at F3.

Why is your WIM higher as town than scum?