Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[clidd]

And you didn't answer me about MC, I can't see him as scum herr.

[clidd]

here*

[Marashu]

That might be where our interpretation of those murdercat posts break off, then.

8 I've mentioned and so have others. So have you. This is a weird entrance.

10 and 14 - trying to shrug/laugh off post 8 which is under scrutiny.

28 on its own I don't really have a problem with. My problem is it paired with 48.

Oh sorry Titus, I'm usually better about catching that stuff.

To me this says that they a) aren't playing their usual game, and b) weren't thinking about why people were posting things (like why Titus would be warning about E-1). I've seen Titus lie as town about other things to try and catch scum off guard, which is why I think town!Titus would try this.

40 and 41 - This could be scum!murdercat trying to distance from the rvs wagon, and not really saying much about the wagon. It also could be town!murdercat dismissing an rvs wagon that built up behind him, so I'm willing to consider these NAI.

I missed 56 earlier - 59 stuck out to me in my memory. Anyway, this whole exchange felt like murdercat was egging on Titus and Klyne. He said he had thoughts he wanted to share, but the only thoughts are about Titus' comment about tone which happened after he said he had thoughts. So I'm not sure what he was thinking at the time and have doubts regarding his sincerity.

Beyond that, I'm not really seeing any attempt to solve, just to follow other people's solves.

It's clearly not as obvious to me as it seems to be for others - can you show me where MC has shown himself as town?

[MURDERCAT]

but the only thoughts are about Titus' comment about tone which happened after he said he had thoughts

These were my thoughts

[clidd]

Hum.

[MURDERCAT]

Mara I think it's kinda weird you focus on my nonsense posts without commenting on the ones that have actual content in them. Like it kind of seems like your read is "tone is off, not solving" which is whatever but why ignore the posts that are at the very least me discussing the gamestate. If you think I'm just following other people's solves why are you not giving evidence of that.

[clidd]

I strengthen my tl on you Marashu, but I think these inconsistencies in behavior are not necessarily scummy in his case.

I feel that by tone, he's approaching the game in a transparent way and having fun in the process, without planning/agenda, which is why I think he's more likely town.

It is not very rational but intuitive.

[clidd]

I never played with him, but that's I feel about the slot.

[MURDERCAT]

I would say that's a pretty good overview of my style for 150 posts into a game

[clidd]

That's how*

[Marashu]

Mara I think it's kinda weird you focus on my nonsense posts without commenting on the ones that have actual content in them. Like it kind of seems like your read is "tone is off, not solving" which is whatever but why ignore the posts that are at the very least me discussing the gamestate. If you think I'm just following other people's solves why are you not giving evidence of that.

Fair point. I also don't feel as strong about that part.

43 - shading BM, Titus.
78 has you skeptical of Taly but 82 has you give reasons to discount your previous post. But I'm unfamiliar with the meta between the two of you so I don't really know how to interpret this.
84 - shading plus.

Oh wait you weren't voting with Taly, Taly's on Plus. Why did I think Taly was on Titus? Hm.

I'll rescind what I said about you following other people's solves.

@clidd ok, but I hope you understand why I don't seem to think the slot is as obviously town.

[MURDERCAT]

Taly was a hard TR for me in another game recently despite being scum in a hydra with a kinda scummy partner

[JacksonVirgo]

Hopefully this will go better than our last two attempts

Vaguely positive natural feelings from this response? MURDERCAT in general feels active and the right amount of comfortable for this early on, he can be town.

Hello old friends and new friends!

Hello! you're at least 40% of the reason I signed up for this.


So something to keep in mind for this setup is that there are

five

scum. If you're town, in your typical Mini Normal you've got a 1/4 chance of randomly hitting scum, but in this setup those numbers are 5/12 instead. There's a whole lot of scum motivation being pushed around on every page compared to normal.

I'd wager Taly is more likely town than anything, with both scumteams contributing to the wagon somewhere.

VOTE: Titus
You clearly didn't care much about Taly being at E-1 considering you didn't remove your vote.

You dare say we have a 40% chance to hit scum immediately? I love me those odds

[JacksonVirgo]

Setting Taly up at a fake L minus one would clear the way for a fake hammer gambit, which is one of my favorites. I have never seen it done in RVS but I figured why not? Worst thing that happens is more conflict and activity which is good to get us out of RVS.

I mean the only thing it would have done is yeet us out of RVS, it would give us no real reads as it never really does in my experience.

[JacksonVirgo]

Do you expect me to have definitive answers by the 3rd page of the game

I like this post a lot

[JacksonVirgo]

- I had a strange feeling reading Jackson's posts, but I don't classify it as ping.

Probably because I was mobile posting and hate mobile posting so my tone was probably utter garbage as I wanted to stop as soon as I started.

[JacksonVirgo]

I think MC is just obvtown, considering his WIM, tone and etc.

WIM isn't AI

[MURDERCAT]

Jackson you are glossing over Titus

[JacksonVirgo]

Jackson you are glossing over Titus

Sorry? What do you mean

[MURDERCAT]

What is your read on Titus?

[JacksonVirgo]

What is your read on Titus?

Probably null, I just got home so I'm not putting much effort into the game yet fyi.

[MURDERCAT]

mmm

[Titus]

I could be wrong, but based on Death Curse I think that Titus struggles to fake solve as scum like she does when she is town (not that I'm expecting that right now, that's just my overall feeling). I don't feel like I've seen her comment on stuff like tone before?? But like I said lack of experience with her early game etc etc. Also I don't hate voting opposite of Plus right now but I'm getting way too tin foily.

You have a select version of one game. I feel awkward bragging but my scum game is usually better than that. You can kinda read the scum PT to see I had RL in the middle. I did open as obvtown early in my sub in.

Of course that doesn't really mean anything here and arguably makes me easier to miseliminate but I don't want people to make assumptions based on wrong information.

I also do hate RVS.

[Titus]

Point a:

- Delay on vote by Titus is towny.

Point b:

VOTE: Titus

How did you get from Point a to Point b?

Mixed impressions about the slot. I concluded that I would try to determine alignment by engaging with her today.

I'm here now if you are.

[Titus]

i feel like people are ignoring me in this game

I townread this and Marashu.