Epilogue! - [Endgame]

[OkaPoka]

Anyway blah blah blah you can't read me blah blah you know the drill.

Gonna go take a nap byeeee

didnt i do this in starry night

[OkaPoka]

isis voted maria

and we should elim maria cfd you know what i mean

[OkaPoka]

ok fire u have to vote maria now

[OkaPoka]

fire i cant trust u until i see mariaR and bulge flip

[OkaPoka]

fire

bell - gamma isn't happening today

[OkaPoka]

besides, ive accepted one of your strongest demands which is im not allowed to talk about my read on you anymore

[OkaPoka]

i do have questions on how you can be convinced specifically the bulge flips anything

[OkaPoka]

interesting split

[OkaPoka]

akarin was supposed to show up

[OkaPoka]

ironically if we can't get an elim off then we really needed to elim but if we can get it off than we didn't really need to elim you know what i mean xd

[OkaPoka]

attention citizens

It is likely, fortunately or unfortunately, we are heading into the night without a second elimination. This is a good and a bad thing! As we mull things over regardless whether we get a second flip or not, I would like everyone to take the following actions:

i wrote this for pagetop but it happened yooo

Think about who you want to send to endgame, what pair are you confident is T/T enough to win it all? And please, don't pick your own pairing. That's a recipe for disaster.

Additionally, think of what pairing holds scum, and what certain flips mean for you. We will need to act fast and decisively as a unit, votes will be flying, and if we want to maintain some semblance of decorum and avoid chain deaths, we will need to be highly proactive and ready to move. Better to think during the night than think on the spot.

But also I know it'll be tempting to talk to your partner about all of this, but I plead with you, don't. We don't want to help scum aim the shot, so let's not talk about our reads. There are up to three people and at least one person who's been utterly bamboozled and in a PT with scum, don't be the person who breaks social distancing and tries to interact, gotta keep it contained.

Remember what has happened so far. Pooky has flipped scum, DGB and DD have flipped town. This game has been fast and if you take time to review things, you might be able to catch something we all missed or have forgotten, we really should have had more info than we do after 3 flips, but for whatever reason, we don't. Odds are we missed some big lead or forgot about something. Don't be afraid to bring it up when day breaks.

And if by some miracle, I do pass into the underworld. Remember that deadlines can be deceiving. We need to move fast ASAP. We should be aiming to eliminate quickly because otherwise, we will lose on time. People will be busy and coordinating things in a forum setting is a pain in the ass, its best to be prepared for the worst. And yes, suicides can be a good thing. Just know in your decision making tree, eliminating your own pairing is half as good as eliminating some other pairing. So at the very least if you are to leave, know that you must be twice as confident as you would normally be in that you are either a) hitting scum or b) this is the right choice.

[OkaPoka]

attention citizens

It is likely, fortunately or unfortunately, we are heading into the night without a second elimination. This is a good and a bad thing! As we mull things over regardless whether we get a second flip or not, I would like everyone to take the following actions:

i wrote this for pagetop but it happened yooo

Think about who you want to send to endgame, what pair are you confident is T/T enough to win it all? And please, don't pick your own pairing. That's a recipe for disaster.

Additionally, think of what pairing holds scum, and what certain flips mean for you. We will need to act fast and decisively as a unit, votes will be flying, and if we want to maintain some semblance of decorum and avoid chain deaths, we will need to be highly proactive and ready to move. Better to think during the night than think on the spot.

But also I know it'll be tempting to talk to your partner about all of this, but I plead with you, don't. We don't want to help scum aim the shot, so let's not talk about our reads. There are up to three people and at least one person who's been utterly bamboozled and in a PT with scum, don't be the person who breaks social distancing and tries to interact, gotta keep it contained.

Remember what has happened so far. Pooky has flipped scum, DGB and DD have flipped town. This game has been fast and if you take time to review things, you might be able to catch something we all missed or have forgotten, we really should have had more info than we do after 3 flips, but for whatever reason, we don't. Odds are we missed some big lead or forgot about something. Don't be afraid to bring it up when day breaks.

And if by some miracle, I do pass into the underworld. Remember that deadlines can be deceiving. We need to move fast ASAP. We should be aiming to eliminate quickly because otherwise, we will lose on time. People will be busy and coordinating things in a forum setting is a pain in the ass, its best to be prepared for the worst. And yes, suicides can be a good thing. Just know in your decision making tree, eliminating your own pairing is half as good as eliminating some other pairing. So at the very least if you are to leave, know that you must be twice as confident as you would normally be in that you are either a) hitting scum or b) this is the right choice.

and maria + bulge flipped ?

[OkaPoka]

tl;dr think about who you want to be the last pair, who you want to eliminate first, be ready to vote quickly, and don't talk about it overnight with your partner

[OkaPoka]

and most importantly

carthage must fall

[OkaPoka]

damn i don't even know what im alluding to this must be an english teacher moment

[OkaPoka]

oka i think our chances of being night killed would actually be really good if u didn't doubt my townieness.

also if i didn't threaten to leave u, but u know lets focus on ur mistakes

such a shame could've been the endgame pair but ahh life is life

[OkaPoka]

uh

[OkaPoka]

look if you and chemist were t/t we are in mylo

[OkaPoka]

Isis you read harry potter?

[OkaPoka]

i think deleuz/ydrasse were killed because they were like the only pair that can comfortable guarantee into 4 p lylo i think after seeing maria/bulge t/t

[OkaPoka]

make sure to trust oka's input y'all

thank you gamma

i hope this pays off

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: shelly chemist

nobody leave i just want to test for science if this vote counts

[OkaPoka]

we can both be right its just its been a while since ive seen people kill for reads instead of just killing the towniest and in this case they were the only pair that had two pretty townie slots post maria/bulge

[OkaPoka]

god seeing a red bell and a green gamma just hits different

[OkaPoka]

anyways shelly/bell/pooky made a lot of sense back then and still does

[OkaPoka]

ooooh okay there are some interesting lines that are being drawn

[OkaPoka]

I think we might as well cull this pairing because its not endgaming

Why not?

because bell is never endgaming

Why not...?

This is the first I've heard of this

like do you really think any flip is going to litmus test what bell's alignment is?

Pooky and Hectic

there is this

[OkaPoka]

im the only one who scumreads bell? i thought i was in the majority here

what are the odds that it was only town in the

Or at least, I agree that they should be in endgame

Bellswizzle is endgaming

Yes

So are we

Oka is pretty transparently the most anti town player in this game and the fact he's just getting Tr after tr is part of the reason I'm so worried about them but *shrug*

isis/dunn/leuz/maria (?) not sure here on her opinion exactly it was more vague and seemingly directed at other stuff

that all wanted bell to endgame originally

[OkaPoka]

meh still think shelly-hectic is the right flip based on her town casing bell which really seemed like a reach at the time especially since bell was kinda into the abyss

[OkaPoka]

akarin, unless she is in RC's school of bussing, is almost assuredly town for what its worth

which means even with my reservations for dunn, i don't want to go there until post shelly-chemist

[OkaPoka]

plus if there is a s-s pair it would have to be shelly-chemist

[OkaPoka]

i will say what frustrated me most about the idea of shelly - s/chemist - t is that i have to be assuming scum are playing naively and would rather have s/t and kill off their own than have s/s

[OkaPoka]

although the prospect of a me/fire dunn/akarin isis/beeboy final 6 sounds exciting

[OkaPoka]

that's a little harsh fire

[OkaPoka]

i will say what frustrated me most about the idea of shelly - s/chemist - t is that i have to be assuming scum are playing naively and would rather have s/t and kill off their own than have s/s

Shelly is town

If there is scum in the pair it's Chemist

And in that case all 3 of the last gents were town

would be funny if u were scum too then and the last 4 gents were all scum

[OkaPoka]

hmm would you look at the time: its beeboy o clock

[OkaPoka]

look the reason why i don't think hectic/chemist is scum is the same reason why bell scum made sense, would hectic cannibalize the ic from pooky?

[OkaPoka]

from a strictly pairing POV then only scum gent left that is possible is dunnstral imo

[OkaPoka]

unless you have me as scum of course, but beeboy, hectic, pooky all strat'd around pairing with Isis, although i suppose hectic did go for taylor too i guess...

[OkaPoka]

beeboy went for isis

[OkaPoka]

I might be drinking the WIFOM but I'd wager there is a solid chance that pooky indicated to his scumpartners that he's only pairing with Isis. Bell flipping may confirm that theory because bell did indicate he didn't want isis and never proposed to her. Both hectic and beeboy did go for isis, and do they cannibalize from pooky? Pooky went defeatist after Isis pairing so I suppose the cannibilization theory could be ignored only under the circumstance that last three gents were all scum and pooky took the bullet to dip, otherwise it's bad manners for your teammate to dip out on them like that - unless he indicated in pt his plan of partnering w isis

[OkaPoka]

depends what the other red flip is?

[OkaPoka]

if fire or dunn is red i want beeboy out otherwise i want chemist-shelly out is where is stand right now but that's not an ideal last two pairs

[OkaPoka]

if we flip chemist/shelly someone needs to remind me if its chemist green and shelly red because i think dunn has to be scum then

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: shelly - chemist

i know half the list is dead but if anything we should be posting more so we don't get deadlin'd

[OkaPoka]

somewhat better since maria is green but i'd be remiss to force us as the last pairing because my confidence in fire is almost solely due to my lack in faith in half of the playerlist

[OkaPoka]

has shelly posted in your PT recently?

[OkaPoka]

hmph

okay well there is a nonzero chance that shelly has siteflaked for what its worth

[OkaPoka]

so even tho id like her dead i think it would be foolish to not at least wait for the playerlist to come around and vote her out the old fashioned way

you are welcome to vote yourself imo

[OkaPoka]

ok

whats your final readslist assuming shelly is town and assuming shelly is scum

[OkaPoka]

i suppose that's not exactly interesting okay im going to wait for more BEEBOY

[OkaPoka]

speculation that shelly might be replaced since she appears to have siteflaked

[OkaPoka]

dunn what's your gameplan here: dd/dgb + maria/bulge were your preferred double elims in that order at the start of dance, what's the next move in your mind and how are we going to get there

[OkaPoka]

why?

[OkaPoka]

good interview

[OkaPoka]

I'm still in Thanksgiving Recovery, won't have time to really look at the game until tonight. Skim catchup, FB-Oka is my Last Pair. Want to look at who was pushing back against GammaBell and how, and also end of Pre-Dance with new information.

It's time to officially re-evaluate Dunn, but right now I don't have a firm read on him either way, other than that his eyepatch is dashing and he has wonderful taste in fire art.

Over the Intermission, Dunn asked me my reads in the PT and I declined to give them. Really our PT isn't that exciting.

Can we please not kill anyone else before I have a chance to actually like think about the game?

Over the Intermission, Dunn asked me my reads in the PT and I declined to give them. Really our PT isn't that exciting.

Can't believe I missed this: yo Dunn why did you ask for reads during Intermission?

[OkaPoka]

why does every pairing have one super townie friendo ;-;

[OkaPoka]

town just lost some chemistry this day

[OkaPoka]

tbh maybe but if this a town/town pair ill have to sit in the think tank because that means two of beeboy/akarin/dunn/you are scum which would be uhhh not the most pleasant think tank moment because maybe one but two? oh no no no

[OkaPoka]

yeah but lets say dunn is scum who is the other scum grumble grumble

[OkaPoka]

which is why this better have at least one scum otherwise im going to cry because even if we lock dunn as scum it means

1) if beeboy is scum my analysis on why bell had to be scum and chemist/hectic had to be town is wrong
2) if akarin is scum then like my mind melds and one of my secret top townreads for this game had rekt me
3 if you are scum well let's not go there im not here to upset you

[OkaPoka]

i feel so gooooooooooood

[OkaPoka]

okay since literally nothing is refuting the path of doing pair analysis on scum catching i do think beeboy-isis should be LP but ehh it should almost always be dunn scum

like bell flip and hectic flips prove that i think scum weren't going to cannibalize isis from pooky so beeboy is most def town i think

VOTE: dunn - akarin

[OkaPoka]

yeah im pretty sure this ends game but honestly every single flip so far has proved the idea of scum not cannibalizing each other's target true which is why i am trusting beeboy a lot here

[OkaPoka]

Why did shelly grab hectic over either scum teammate?

quite possibly the honest answer: she wanted to pair with hectic and thought that would be the best path forward

makes sense with how much she was tmi clearing hectic and chemist acknolwedging that it was not important in actuality, im guessing she originally thought she could bring herself with hectic pretty close

[OkaPoka]

lmao you know how this is all looking dunn right

[OkaPoka]

its going to be so dramatic when akarin gets to the juice

[OkaPoka]

akarin why didn't you mention that dunn specifically asked for leuz-ydrasse or am i misreading things

[OkaPoka]

fair enough - its just my reaction to a leuz-ydrasse nk and seeing that message in the pt would be massive red flags in my eyes

[OkaPoka]

if by some miracle you and dunn are T-T i need some solid analysis on Fire and Beeboy to be honest because I've liked all your content posts this game

[OkaPoka]

but uhh that is a burden of effort so uhhh lmao have a good sleep

[OkaPoka]

omg you are just too pure

[OkaPoka]

@Isis I may have been wrong about every read, at every point in the game, but in the end my towny disposition should be enough to tell you that it isn't me

lmao what is this

i need beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[OkaPoka]

just vibin'

dunn made a pass at isis but refused to actually ask her out for the sake of "slowing things down? (WTF)"

some other notable highlights:

dunn wanted hectic shipped out in the hectic/pooky/bell dynamic

dunn has been wrong on dgb/dd and maria/bulge and has wanted to send bell/taylor -> gamma and shelly/hectic -> chemist to endgame

he really isn't resetting reads or making an open display of resorting after any flip he's been wrong on (ex: he's scumread hectic since predance make that for what its worth, only swapping over to try and get them to endgame)

oh yeah the only real open resort he did was when pooky decided to off themselves, but by then it was between pooky and bell

[OkaPoka]

oh... and we still have gotten literally nothing from that dgb/dd flip that dunn promised would be great and fantastic after i argued how it would tell us nothing

but maria did say dunn is scum after a dgb/dd town so it would be poetic...

[OkaPoka]

if its not dunn i ask you not to leave isis

we have work to do

[OkaPoka]

i do however ask fire and beeboy to vote the beeboy/isis pairing ASAP so u can hammer test me

[OkaPoka]

what imo is damning other than the fact that mariaR scumread him is:

look at dunn's reads, who did he want to endgame first? bell/taylor

why? well he said so when challenging me and at various points during dance 1 wanted me/fire dead, ydrasse/leuz dead, shelly/hectic and obviously killed dgb/dd and maria/bulge

leaving bell/taylor which he vocally asked to be the endgame pairing and isis/beeboy which obviously he can't say his thoughts and himself/akarin which obviously he won't say his thoughts

okay it's obvious why that's bad but anyone can make mistakes, how is this scary?

well after bell/taylor nabs us a scum, guess who he shifts into that endgame position? guess who?

shelly/chemist

that's right, he tries and gets the other scum flipped pairing to be the endgame pairing after the first pairing dies.

he could just be wrong but his agenda is the scum agenda. and the voice of maria haunts me, she screams in pain as she begs for vengeance, we must give the dead what they presumably want

if its not dunn

isis you and i are going to have a fun time resolving this game because fuck us right

fire, unlike you i am not a troll, i just want to clear myself ASAP because i need isis to know that my words are 100% honest in endgame

[OkaPoka]

fire the only person being hammer tested is me you should consent since you 100% trust me

[OkaPoka]

makes it so we guarantee me being town for everyone's sake so we don't need to consider that in the game calculus

[OkaPoka]

fire, its about removing the inevitable paranoia if we do get there

[OkaPoka]

look my head is already spinning with all the wild explanations of you or beeboy but im keeping it to myself for the sake of everyone else, if we get there we get there but if i were isis my mind would be already churning with the possibility of oka!scum, its just human nature to start weaving things and i want this to be 100% fire vs beeboy instead of hmm maybe oka

[OkaPoka]

lets just wait until the dunn flip okay? im not here to throw chaos into the mix

[OkaPoka]

take your time we are waiting on BEEBOY anyways

[OkaPoka]

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[OkaPoka]

sorry fakegod but we must wait for BEEBOY TIME

WHAT TIME IS IT?

ITS BEEBOY TIME!

WHAT TIME IS IT?

ITS BEEBOY TIME!

[OkaPoka]

no dunn town case ? cmon beeboy ive waited a millennia

[OkaPoka]

lmao ok if this is t/t im going to cry

[OkaPoka]

but if by some miracle akarin flips scum? you get a gold star for being the sekrit weapon

[OkaPoka]

i dont peg dunn as a twilight troll agh

ok

isis whatever you are doing right now i want you to NOT LEAVE

[OkaPoka]

DUNN WE MAY ONLY HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO COMMUNICATE DUMP YOUR WISDOM

[OkaPoka]

dunn you got a dossier on beeboy's meta btw?

[OkaPoka]

honestly id just take links to his scum games btw if you are there i need to do some opposition research

[OkaPoka]

is beeboy trolly as scum? you ever scummed with him before, you know if he would look at the scum pt and just laugh and ignore it

[OkaPoka]

yeah but on a multidimensional plane where does he neighbor?

like RadiantCowbells would be an architect, telling everyone what to do and where to go, saying who has to die and when

then you got the Saudades, no planning, just improvising and going with the flow, playing off their teammates to stay alive

what is a beeboy scum looking like? if pooky was like im only pairing with isis this game, would beeboy look at his scumbuddy and be like wassup lemme have isis

[OkaPoka]

also give me and honest opinion, if you were scum and you knew me/fire were T/T and beeboy/isis were T/T and leuz/ydrasse were T/T

who you killing going into the night and why? thinking about how to win what pair kill is the best

[OkaPoka]

here's a simpler question

did you think me/fire could endgame going into the night? did you think i scumread fire?

[OkaPoka]

Yeah - the thing about fire that really worries me is he's acting like he's out of his scumrange, which to be clear he most definitely is capable of playing a scum game to this level. The thing is - has fire become too much of an ms boomer to care this much about playing scum? Does he have anything to prove about playing scum?

I had done an earlier dive on shelly and bell's iso during the death to dunn phase, and what really scared me was their pivot of reads one me/fire. It really seemed that they shifted from having our pair be out in the first stage to wanting us to go far, which is a little scary to have any read change happen.

I will say it does suck a bit we didn't get to hear from shelly or bell this phase because I honestly have no clue what their gameplan is. Obviously coming into today they must've thought their odds were good, 3 scum, they made an obvious kill, I mean status quo had to be in their favor right?

Here's the rub imo: were scum banking on bell - gamma being last pair? Because leuz-ydrasse were def at LP territory. And now with dunn's town flip, I mean we had a whole lot of townies calling for bell - taylor/gamma being part of endgame final 4 at the least. Did they try and win off of that one pair? Because if that's the plan its probably beeboy and counting on me paranoia'ing Fire. I do wonder if scum realized my scumread on Fire was very much conditional on a maria scumflip, or was that something ignored. I will say Dunn-Akarin was actually my last pair pick before Maria/Bulge flipping town/town but then I do wonder, if scum sensed a Maria/Bulge town/town flips meant Dunn could never last into endgame. Because again, that points to Beeboy.

But then beeboy wants me and fire to be Last Pair? Like what is even happening. How does beeboy!scum win, But also, how does beeboy!town win in that case lmfao. He's paired with an IC.

[OkaPoka]

If play indicates anything fwiw, beeboy!scum I think would have no intent on being the win condition. He would bank on his teammates winning it I think and he exists just to remove the IC. Bell-Gamma, though would honestly never endgame because they killed leuz/ydrasse lol, might be something a scumteam think would be a winning endgame path with. But its hard to pinpoint the plan since the leaves were so early.

On the other hand. fire's play today is fully indicative of him wanting to be the final pair. Do we think scum had the foresight to see that bell-gamma was going to be killed since the remaining townies wanted their head? And Dunn couldn't swing the votes the other way?

I think regardless, scum did know shelly was fully doomed.

I'm just trying to set the stage on what scum knew or not fwiw if you want to add anything

[OkaPoka]

I will say this

Fire

makes narrative sense being scum. He doesn't contradict the ideas of scum not wanting to cannibalize pooky and with how the day played out, it scum!Fire would play like this. It matches the attitude of the scumteam going from bussing Fire to realizing he might be the wincondition.

However it does assume a level of competence in the scumteam that I don't know I want to give them, given how disorganized their predance was. Agh.

Beeboy

is the obvious suspect imo. It's the basic if I were a betting man who would I put my money on. His play today has been confusing and scum!aligned. If scum were just improvising and have a PT void of strategy, this is what I would expect. A bunch of people trying to figure it out and just going along, trying to stay alive along as possible and playing for themselves. He doesn't even realize that he should be advocating for himself to be last pair, he's going against the grain on Dunn/Akarin to kill the pretty obvious town part of the pair. He's promised a lot in predance but never followed through due to wim or whatever.

[OkaPoka]

yeah I do agree the Beeboy is the obvious candidate. It would mean that the scum team has been just disorganized and has no plan to actually win other than hope that town fucks up. They give the agency to us and just bank on a hope and a prayer. Which makes a lot of sense given how predance played out and how it looks like every single elimination was driven by town, scum have been riding on the coattails pretty much every time and playing to breathe water.

But I will do my due dilligence and try and see if it likely that scum are some insidious, cunning group who architected strategy and what not. Probably not tho, I don't know about Pooky/Shelly/Bell but ahh.

[OkaPoka]

oka ive been saying we are final pair for since i think end of first dance. this is not new

i honestly did not expect us to go this far, but leuz/ydrasse getting killed probably forced us into this position and dunn didn't get a good flip so he just ended up unable to last pair.

I'm thinking if you were scum, would you think you could last pair? If you were scum, would you kill beeboy n isis to simplify it and then get bell/gamma to win? Is that more/less likely than you!scum killing ydrasse/leuz and going for the win yourself?

agh

[OkaPoka]

He doesn't contradict the ideas of scum not wanting to cannibalize pooky and with how the day played out, it scum!Fire would play like this.

what u talking about i was the only oone saying tht i think pooky was just thrown under the buss and scum could have saved them but choose not to

the predominant narrative was taylor = town for dancing with bell over pooky; and i was like only one who really disagreed.

in the sense that beeboy!scum would be stealing isis away from pooky by entering the pool and pooky kinda just stopped caring after that.

[OkaPoka]

that is another thing, I do think fire scum would just be more accurate on his reads and busses. Rather than being wrong (and right) he could've just blind sheeped me and made me happier as a result

[OkaPoka]

im telling u with either team of beeboy or me on the scumteam. The scum team is a disorganized mess.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH that is probably true, but i don't know enough about the three confirmed scum bleh i should assume they are disorganized because very few people would even try that hard

[OkaPoka]

I do think fire scum would just be more accurate on his reads and busses.

wow rude.

well fire, you think if you rolled scum and were going to kill of a scum pair, would you either

a) agree with your town dance partner on who is scum and be vocal and get credibility

b) disagree with your town dance partner and potentially frustrate them just to be wrong but right

[OkaPoka]

it is probably beeboy isn't it

so many signs point to beeboy other than my obsession with believing there is some secret goliath evil force and i must uncover a grand conspiracy

and also the fact that i dont want to be the sucker

pedit: sorry fire, not what i meant lmao

i meant since you (and I) "matured" (?) in the rc-era of scumplay, its a very strong strategy as scum to just be right on most of your reads and drive elims that way

[OkaPoka]

and to be clear i was worried you were going to pull that one out of RC's playbook after you begrudgingly hammered both DGB/DD and Maria/Bulge even though you didn't think they would flip scum. you really could've just played an RC-scum game - but then you bussed the wrong person in the pair which idk. idk man

[OkaPoka]

im gonna nom u for a scummy if ur scum going this hard to make me reassured ur town when i was already bought and sold sir.

bro id be throwing as scum right now lmfao, if i saw scum do shit like this i'd think it'd be like hammer-test trolling and there is really no point

*cough cough*

[OkaPoka]

and to be clear i was worried you were going to pull that one out of RC's playbook after you begrudgingly hammered both DGB/DD and Maria/Bulge even though you didn't think they would flip scum. you really could've just played an RC-scum game - but then you bussed the wrong person in the pair which idk. idk man

ohh yeah the classic scum!rc

"well w/e u guys want to lose i give up convincing u [votes out town players]"

classic rc.

yeah exactly the circumstances make sense for an rc!esque style play but the way we got here does not

you've given up so much agency where it doesn't make full sense to think that you are playing an RC game

pedit: well if its beeboy scum you are probably on the dot

[OkaPoka]

im going to ponder other scenarios i guess but im really waiting for some beeboy posts because that's who im leaning towards atm

[OkaPoka]

man this is so hard to compare because by virtue of beeboys pair status and how the suicides happen, there aren't many associatives between beeboy/scumteam because they literally can't exist

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did scum want beeboy - isis / pooky - taylor / shelly - hectic ? kill bell? could make sense given me and leuz were advocating for bell to be yeeted

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yeah that's what im leaning towards as well

but i dont want to be the sucker you know

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its so disorganized but most of the scumteam wouldn't have experience on how to play dances so it would make sense that they kinda got trapped

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honestly the most puzzling comment from beeboy is how he wanted me/fire to be LP because that makes no sense any way you look at it

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Ok I'll be real OkaFire is just T/T and I really don't think anything else past that point actually matters, my reservation on the team was Fire but he sort of has popped off dance 2 so now I am chillinig with the pair.

I am really unsure which one of you would want to just keep me alive which is why I am sort of stuck right now, arguably my main "anchor player" is already dead as well and it would be bold to assume I would defend Bulge there because I uh really wasn't he was the only thing that resembled a scum read I posted.

i guess he doesn't explicitly say so adfasdf

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*click view your posts* -> *sees Epilogue! is red* -> *checks if beeboy has posted yet* -> *sadness*

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*click view your posts* -> *sees Epilogue! is red* -> *checks if beeboy has posted yet* -> *sadness*

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*click view your posts* -> *sees Epilogue! is red* -> *checks if isis has posted but didn't leave* -> *sadness*

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WAIT

YOU MADE ME QUOTE A DIFFERENT THING WTF

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THE TAPES ARE DOCTORED I REPEAT THE TAPES ARE DOCTORED

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ur the listmod so you tell me

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blink twice if mith is holding you hostage

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ahhh i see the PenguinPower coup has been succesful in taking over the ms.net regime

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sadness...

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uhh so guys you think beeboy has read the game or nah because lmaoooooooooooooooooo in most cases id feel bad with this emotion post but in this case it is very humorous

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beeboy why are you being so tough on yourself

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why are you so sad beeboy D:

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That awkward moment when I lost the game for town.
I really thought you guys were waiting for me to hammer ngl.

I'll post in the morning if I don't I'll take responsibility for the loss.
I don't have a guess as to which one of Fire or Oka is scum ngl :V

well it looks like you are blaming yourself a lot here

why do you feel like this? why do you feel like a sinner in the halls of christ? tell me your sins

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oka r u the real sinner here?!?!

we r all sinners in the hands of an angry god

well beeboy, i am interested, do you blame yourself for dunn dying then? what exactly are you blaming yourself here for

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Well one of you is just scum memeing about tihs here....
I don't feel bad for you since I did just carry you.

well let's start here then: what were you expecting to happen once you survived intermission?

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Well one of you is just scum memeing about tihs here....
I don't feel bad for you since I did just carry you.

well let's start here then: what were you expecting to happen once you survived intermission?

I hit a point where I didn't expect to live past intermission :V
My hypothetical plan involved me pre intermission already having a really solid base which tbh i never even did for myself.

I was like "ima just die, bulge is super scummy and a lynch is wasted before I even tried to read it". This is around when I checked the thread to try hard the first time because I didn't really have time to play before dgb and dr drew posted.
I did 100% have time to try hard after that and I just chose not to for the reason listed above.

I didn't tell Isis this, I sat down, defended Dunn, pushed Bulge thought I was grabbing scum on an exit frag, and then getting killed.

yeah but that was 120 hours ago, you still caught off guard? whats up what has been poppin.

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Why aren't I dead

so when you made this post beeboy what was the next thing you did ? gimme your mindset. were you like why aren't I dead oh well idc later ~ or what was happening

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beeboy ignore fire, just me n you, rapid fire question and answer go go go

if you want to repent this is the way to the lord

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isis is here, let us dance across the stage for her

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Why aren't I dead

when you made this post what the next thing you did? what was your mindset?

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why did you think akarin was scum?

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ooh-la-la

How did you clear me and fire from the PoE?

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and that made you comfortable enough to put us at last pair territory?

what happened to me being a noise poster? did something significant about my posting habits change for you to go from marking me as a scummy noise poster to "good energy"

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im befuddled beeboy

im absolutely befuddled

these were the reasons you wanted me and fire to be the last pair? why weren't you like it should be me/isis

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AGH

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Isis I'll never forgive myself if I throw this game.

And although every dead person is probably screaming at their top of their lungs that its beeboy, every sign points to him, and every bird sings its beeboy. My heart is just not in it to kill beeboy you know? I'm just so baffled to the point where, maybe beeboy is just town here and fire's played a fine scum game. I want to talk to you but honestly, is beeboy just town? He makes so little sense when he has to make sense, he is clearly efforting but doesn't know what to do, I mean it would just be ridiculous for him to be scum right?

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beeboy is putting in the minutes to respond, but its really obvious he has no idea what is happening to the point where maybe he's just town lmfao just fucking end me this game man

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I can't function in mylos help

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Oh thank god

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Im so sorry fire beeboy was so cute and yeah that was about it

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The consequences of that micro game is far reaching fire

My confidence in playing lylos have never been the same

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The consequences of that micro game is far reaching fire

My confidence in playing lylos have never been the same

i have zero regrets. It was a priceless joke.

PTSD INTENSIFIES

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Anyways thank the lord for isis, i was probably going to continue to case everyone for the next 24 hours and come to no conclusion

And bless fire for not leaving me even in my doubts

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Also thank you to the rest of the playerlist for getting me this far. In my six years on site ive been in lylos like three times as town and this might be the most memorable that wasnt because i was being trolled.

And thank you fakegod for essentially creating an institutional game. 4 scum is probably balanced, and once upon a time 3 scum was too. We can all speculate as to why but its interesting to have the dance datapoints when thinking about it

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Beeboy in his few posts was very charming i agree

I am interested in an alt timeline where he hyperposted d2

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Fire the prophecy held true, third time was the charm lmfao

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@fakegod do u think pairing with IC as scum is good plan? i still think its bad because it eventually leads to scenario where its like IC is alive and everyone goes "umm why is this a thing"

I think it's not a good plan right now because literally every time IC pair survived was when it was paired with scum lol

When will scum teams become brave enough to let IC-town pair survive Intermission????

Also, Scum-Scum pair is a power move I endorse

Yesssa gimme the secret pts

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Idk why i quoted that

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Leuz - ydra pt not accessible?

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What does scum have to do at this point besides post more

I'm glad town won (because that's a majority win) but it seems the minority people feel unpopular and it seems like it gets to people

there are a lot of things scum can to do to win besides "post more" (and just posting more isn't enough to win) but at the bare minimum if scum is going to win in a dance game because of their play and not letting town implode, they need to be in a top town read pairing and part of that burden is to be in the upper % of posters

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let me into the pt leuz

LET ME IN

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you guys know that the highlighter is black right?

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Shelly you did well

My first dance was brutal and i rolled scum. I was so bad i got unanimously bussed lmao. I was flailing and got choked down within like 48 hours

This is a brutal setup if you signed up not knowing anything, especially as scum