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Post Post #3650 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:30 pm

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Could this be a 5-man scumteam setup? Feels too much. My heart won't let go of Gamma, agh
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Post Post #3651 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 3647, unwnd wrote:I also feel the same. I think NPOM's 'Not scum, just bored' is a scumclaim btw
Would be a very good Neap target. Just saying.
In post 3648, unwnd wrote:
In post 3644, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 3641, unwnd wrote:ABR's apathy and giving up sucked so much shit
it’s also possible that it’s just fake because town might be screwed so who cares? do you think he’s town?
No I think he's scum right now, but that goes against what Insano is saying technically.
I admit I'm a little biased there because of my role.
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Post Post #3652 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:35 pm

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In post 2415, SirCakez wrote:
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[Pretentious (9) -
NorwegianboyEE
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Albert B. Rampage
Non lmh (3) - NoPowerOverMe, DrippingGoofball, innocentvillager
Nero Cain (2) - Pretentious, Glitch
Tayl0r Swift (1) - May

Not voting (2) - Non lmh, TheGoldenParadox

(expired on 2020-11-29 10:00:00) remain until day end

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to reach a majority.
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Wagonomics persists that there has to be scum on that Pretentious wagon.
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Post Post #3653 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:36 pm

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In post 3633, DrippingGoofball wrote:it doesn't mean that the recruiter can't be scum.
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Post Post #3654 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:38 pm

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I looked at the other wagons and I found myself getting angry again.

A solid fuck you to any townie who is simply not playing. Do not join games if you choose not to participate.
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Post Post #3655 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:49 pm

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In post 3654, unwnd wrote:I looked at the other wagons and I found myself getting angry again.

A solid fuck you to any townie who is simply not playing. Do not join games if you choose not to participate.
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Post Post #3656 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:53 pm

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I killed Umlaut. I am 2 shot vig but was hoping to keep scum from pinning it to me, so I tried to distance myself from the kill because they would know there was a vig after he died and they didn't target him. They were either stopped, didn't kill, or possibly targeted umlaut as well.

I have one shot left but if I'm on the chopping block then I have to be honest. Had I been honest about SRing umlaut they may have picked up on the fact it was me.

My plan was to target Umlaut last night and ABR tomorrow night but I didn't want to publicize it yet. But here we are.

I think ABR is our best bet. 3 speed hammers on town 3 days in a row is where we need to kill today. I haven't wrapped my mind around all the claims yet though and that may change things once I can fully sort out who has claimed what. Today we need to not speed lynch. I'll be back to evaluate claims more.
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Post Post #3657 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:58 pm

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Lmao, what? Weren't you saying Umlaut was obvious town?
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Post Post #3658 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:59 pm

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I feel intense doubt in that claim, as well
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Post Post #3659 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:14 pm

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LOL
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Post Post #3660 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:15 pm

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So the scum tried to kill IV and I stopped them?
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Post Post #3661 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:17 pm

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Glitch, humor me.

Since the scum's kill failed, according to you, who is scum?

The neighbors have confessed to having targeted IV.
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Post Post #3662 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:21 pm

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@Gamma

What scum roles would result in a negative to a gunsmith?
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Post Post #3663 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:08 pm

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In post 3105, Glitch wrote:
In post 3102, innocentvillager wrote:this almost reads like glitch is like offended that dgb is insulting the kill choice, lol
Umlaut was my top TR, and I expect slots who are heavily TR'd to be on the chopping block. Umlaut had good standing with a lot of players, so why is DGB surprised?? It comes across as scum theater overreacting to try and look town.


Playing scum requires walking a fine line between looking not too scummy and not too towny. If you're too towny then everyone will wonder why you haven't died. If you're too scummy everyone will vote you off.

Umlaut was not balanced like that. Obvtown = not a surprising kill
In post 3118, Glitch wrote:
Vaxkiller is bleeding town as well. That slot is so incredibly town I don't think the scum would have a chance to get a wagon to go through on that slot
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Post Post #3664 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:40 pm

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So you are saying you killed Umlaut and scum didn't have a kill last night?
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Post Post #3665 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:18 am

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In post 3657, Insanoflex wrote:Lmao, what? Weren't you saying Umlaut was obvious town?
Yes, to distance myself from the kill. If they figured out I was the vig today they could easily wagon me for a mislynch because my activity makes me lhf. Add on top of that the fact that there was only one kill and scum have a perfect target if they find out I'm vig. So I made sure to come across clearly as Town reading umlaut, that way they wouldn't Trace it back to me and get me eliminated before I can get my second shot off tonight at ABR. Now that everything is out in the open however, I'm more than happy to shoot tonight whoever we decide as a collective to go for or hold my shot as well. Whichever is best. If I shoot another town tonight then we either lose or are in perpetual lylo.

We just also have to keep in mind the fact that if I hold my shot so that we don't miss Lynch a townie then scum will kill me tonight and the second shot will be wasted. That may be the best option if we don't identify someone prior to the Lynch today that we are very confident is scum.
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Post Post #3666 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:19 am

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In post 3664, NoPowerOverMe wrote:So you are saying you killed Umlaut and scum didn't have a kill last night?
1) scum didn't have a kill
2) scum kill was blocked
3) both scum and I targeted umlaut
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Post Post #3667 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:23 am

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In post 3661, DrippingGoofball wrote:Glitch, humor me.

Since the scum's kill failed, according to you, who is scum?

The neighbors have confessed to having targeted IV.
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Post Post #3668 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:28 am

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I am flabbergasted at the idea of a vig that shot Umlaut and not Nero Cain.
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Post Post #3669 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:48 am

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lol I mean
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Post Post #3670 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:56 am

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jesus what a great fakeclaim if it is, I was wondering what bs they were coming up with in the PT, it’s almost believeable
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Post Post #3671 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 3662, DrippingGoofball wrote:@Gamma

What scum roles would result in a negative to a gunsmith?
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Post Post #3672 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:06 am

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Which thinking about it, ABR’s claim reflects negatively, it’s a super-low-power claim which is a hallmark of scum playing it safe while claiming, and seems like something a mafia doc would claim.
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Post Post #3673 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:49 am

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Does this fit with a mafia neighborizer?
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Post Post #3674 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:01 am

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Too many holes in the neighbor narrative.

It requires that Non Imh, who made only 4 super scummy posts, the last of which was Nov 19, was present at night to recruit another non-entity lurksack, May.

It requires us to believe that a neighborhood consists of 100% confirmed townies - which by definition is not what a neighborhood is. A neighborhood may have scum, which distinguishes it from a masonry.

It requires us to believe that a recruit from this supposed 100% townie neighborhood would vote the recruiter.

It would require us to wrap our heads around a mass claim that was supposed to yield super dooper information, was just a ruse because there was no information.

It requires us to believe that neither vaxkiller nor unwnd know the difference between NO RESULT and NOT VANILLA.

At least one of these two is scum, if not both.
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