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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:08 pm

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Votecount 1.4


bad bear pun count
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[3]LlamaMama:
Flea the Magician, Horsewoman, Marky Mark
[3]Horsewoman:
JacksonVirgo, Toogeloo, Momrangal
[2]JacksonVirgo:
LlamaMama, Nono
[2]Noraa:
DrippingGoofball, Guillotina
[1]no elimination:
no elim


[2] Not Voting:
AGamblingPig, Noraa

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.


The elimination deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-22 12:35:35).
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:19 pm

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Game fact #1

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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:23 pm

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Its dinner time, bear with me
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:23 pm

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[quote="In ]post 188, Guillotina"Curious how you fought the noobtell accusation but not the "attempt at discrediting me" one.

VOTE: Horsewoman[/quote]

Yes, i was attempting to discredit your deep dive because it was dumb. I wasnt trying to discresit you as a person or your slot. I also wasnt discrediting the deep dive because I thought you were onto me - the idea is laughable.

In a couple of hours I will read the game properly and come to conclusions
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:25 pm

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In [url=forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=12421268#p12421268]post 223[/url], Noraa wrote:
In post 201, Marky Mark wrote:in my (limited) experience, newbscum tend to panic when people vote them rather than playing it cool like a more seasoned player. Not sure if you are stretching the truth to fit the facts here or have just had a different experience of playing with new players (entirely possible).
there's another way to think about it.
some newbscum panic but other newbscum KNOW that the people SRing them are right, so they are absurdly calm.
This post is basically saying "some people do one thing, some do the opposite thing i am very smart" c'mon
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:34 pm

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In post 249, Momrangal wrote:I think your read on Nora is off though
Why?
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 253, Horsewoman wrote:[quote="In ]post 188, Guillotina"Curious how you fought the noobtell accusation but not the "attempt at discrediting me" one.

VOTE: Horsewoman
Yes, i was attempting to discredit your deep dive because it was dumb. I wasnt trying to discresit you as a person or your slot. I also wasnt discrediting the deep dive because I thought you were onto me - the idea is laughable.

In a couple of hours I will read the game properly and come to conclusions[/quote][/quote]

Curious again, i never said you did discredit me for any of those things, but if it is in your mind, it's because it's true.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:46 pm

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In post 253, Horsewoman wrote:[quote="In ]post 188, Guillotina"Curious how you fought the noobtell accusation but not the "attempt at discrediting me" one.

VOTE: Horsewoman
Yes, i was attempting to discredit your deep dive because it was
smart
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WAS
trying to discresit you as a person or your slot. I also
WAS
discrediting the deep dive because I thought you were onto me - the idea is
NOT
laughable.

In a couple of hours I will read the game properly and come to conclusions[/quote][/quote]

This is what you are psychologically telling me.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:49 pm

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I don't agree with HW's but it looks like it comes from town.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:29 pm

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In post 209, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 196, Guillotina wrote:
In post 194, Flea The Magician wrote:Also I'll have you know I'm just as fluffy in real life. My queer butt just wants to love, be loved and hug friendos!

And also I will protect those I consider within the boundaries of my inner circle with my life. A truly scary sight to witness a fight or flight instinct be controlled and wielded in such a manner with reckless disregard for all but whom I stand to protect.

But thankfully the world isn't that full of meanies so I don't have to do that ʕ灬→ᴥ←灬ʔ
AtE?

Flea, what do you think about Horsewoman so far?
Not at all, just reflecting on my mannerisms ^_^ I am the universal parent friendo

Horsey is sus, but nothing significant as of yet.
This read is really crappy (jumping on a bandwagon without even pretending to articulate why).
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:29 pm

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In post 258, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't agree with HW's but it looks like it comes from town.
holy fuck what is your joindate is that real?
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:33 pm

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In post 169, Toogeloo wrote:Noraa is a weirdo sometimes.
Pretty bad post! (Calling someone a 'weirdo' doesn't help unless you're trying to read their alignment}
In post 232, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Horsewoman
Pretty late for a naked vote here!
In post 190, Toogeloo wrote:Kill it with Fire!!!
Unvote;
Vote: Flea


Image

damnit....

ok, maybe a little less fire.
This vote is even worse

VOTE: Toogeloo
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:53 pm

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Ok. Horsewoman is definitely scum. She votes Toogeloo for a naked vote instead of me for tunneling her?

She is afraid to cast that vote on me because she knows im town and im right.



Luckily for HW, Noraa will get my vote if she does not tell me what “shading” Mark did. Ts ts ts.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:40 pm

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In post 119, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 118, Nono wrote:VOTE: jackson
Fancy explaining your train of thought?
mark's vote was a "poke" vote,, that's fine, the way jackson jumped on it, took it seriously felt bad, imo, excited, imo
jackson's weird, apparently, can't make up my mind

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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:48 pm

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it's scummy city xD
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:52 pm

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hard to read, don't wanna read, w/e

sus of llama votes,, agreed with llama
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:55 pm

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VOTE: flea
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:01 pm

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In post 96, Guillotina wrote:Ok. Are you new to the forum or pretending to be new to the forum?

This is the same line of thought that ran through my head and it was a pleasant surprise to see someone else. This tell takes such a specific scenario for it to take place that it rarely happens and because it rarely happens, it remains something that remains a solid scum tell.

Downplaying ones experience is specifically scum because on a subconscious level, that kind of post does make a person reactively want to go easier on you. It's something I've only ever gotten to use to tag scum a handful of times and it was a tell I identified way back in 2012.

Because such a post reactively makes people want to take it easier on you, it's something someone who is new the a forum but not new to the game and draws scum will use but something that someone in the same scenario yet draws town will use because scum want to hide under the radar.

What is far more likely to happen is that a player being new to a forum but not new to the game and drawing town to play in such a way that overexaggates their actual ability cuz pride.

It is one of the strongest yet one of the weakest tells because it's "stupid" and "circumstantial" and all kinds of speculation because the tell is deep seeded in sub conscious psychology so it's difficult to even prove

Ey!

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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:06 pm

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In post 246, Guillotina wrote:
In post 245, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 244, Guillotina wrote:Town: JacksonViggo, Mark

Null: Flea

Scum: Horsewoman, LlamaMama, Noraa
This is about where I’m at as well although I don’t think all three of those are scum together, I think at least one is though if that makes sense.
Yah i dont think I'm actually God of mafia and found 3 wolves in day 1. But those slots need to get sorted.

Horsewoman is obvscum! I'd yeet her first.
I wouldn't say you were a God of Mafia if they actually were as obviously many have come to the same conclusion, although considering we both independently landed on the same scum-reads, I don't think they're as accurate as we see from face-value and I would bet some mo=ney that at least one of the three is scum-pushed in some form. If I had to say right off my head I would say that Llama and Horse are probably not scum together but I would think at least one would be from what we have right now. Noraa being scum doesn't really affect Llama/Horse being Mafia I don't think, I'll have a look back on interactions after flips happen if they seem necessary.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:07 pm

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In post 249, Momrangal wrote:I think your read on Nora is off though
Can you explain how it's off and who's exact read on Noraa is off?
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:07 pm

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In post 255, Guillotina wrote:
In post 249, Momrangal wrote:I think your read on Nora is off though
Why?
Its to my understanding that Nora is a cutesy overly excited kind of player... Like a puppy but in this game it doesn't seem over the top, and it feels like there's a level of focus and seriousness there. It's almost like she needs to actually some thinking in the game, and not make plays to redirect town votes, and plays, and cause havic.

There is something happening to cause this subtle shift in play at a subconscious level and it's that thing at that level that gives me my read on her
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:08 pm

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I MEAN IF YOU WOULD JUST LET ME POST IT, IT DOESN'T EVEN CONCERN YOU
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:08 pm

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In post 260, Horsewoman wrote:
In post 258, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't agree with HW's but it looks like it comes from town.
holy fuck what is your joindate is that real?
Kinda hard to fake it if it was lmfao
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:09 pm

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In post 262, Guillotina wrote:Ok. Horsewoman is definitely scum. She votes Toogeloo for a naked vote instead of me for tunneling her?

She is afraid to cast that vote on me because she knows im town and im right.



Luckily for HW, Noraa will get my vote if she does not tell me what “shading” Mark did. Ts ts ts.
That basis for lock-scumming Horse is kinda weak. Just because you SR them doesn't mean town!them would SR you back.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:10 pm

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That being said I do think Horse is scummy, I am not saying they aren't, I just think that specific piece of logic is wrong.
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