Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[Umlaut]

Datisi was found dead this morning.

He was a

Townie

.

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Day 3

Vote Count 3.0

Not voting

(9): MURDERCAT, Ahsoka, Titus, iamausername, The Bulge, innocentvillager, Klyne, clidd, VP Baltar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-01-03 03:57:00)

[VP Baltar]

So we should yeet Murdercat today probably and we will see where we are at

[innocentvillager]

classic town datisi dead on day 3 once again

[iamausername]

right now we're at

5

:

2

:

2

assuming mafia don't take risks with the hitlist and a townie dies overnight, a town execution would leave us at

3

:

2

:

2

, which means town wouldn't even have a majority. i think it's still technically possible to win from there, but it would require a whole lot of things to go exactly right. that feels like a real disaster scenario.

a wolf execution today would put us to

4

:

2

:

1

, at which point getting the other wolf would leave us

4

:

2

nightless against the mafia, meaning we could afford one mislim from there. we could also buy a mislim by executing mafia to make it

3

:

1

:

1

, then getting the other wolf to leave it at

3

:

1

nightless.

mafia execution today puts us to

4

:

1

:

2

, from there we can achieve the same result as above by getting both wolves in a row to go

3

:

1

:

1

, then

3

:

1

nightless. alternately, we could finish off the mafia, go to

3

:

2

and then have to take down both wolves in a row.

if we were to go wolf, then town, we'd end up

2

:

2

:

1

, town and wolf must work together to execute mafia, then the wolf has to no kill as mafia win in a

1

:

1

:

1

situation. at

2

:

1

:

1

, we have to execute first the wolf, then the mafia.

if we were to go mafia, then town, we'd end up

2

:

1

:

2

, town and mafia must work together to execute wolf, then same as above.

the tl;dr here is that executing a wolf isn't actually notably better than executing mafia at this point, so:

we should yeet Murdercat today probably and we will see where we are at

[clidd]

Actually, I should reevaluate all of my TRs.

I don't pose a threat to the mafia and maybe part of it is due to my reads.

Pedit: Yeah, true.

[VP Baltar]

Actually, I should reevaluate all of my TRs.

It's funny because I had the same feeling and was like, "am I giving Clidd a free pass?"...but then you say exactly what I'm thinking and I town read you even more.

I think the biggest read I need to reconsider is Klyne as a possible wolf. We are starting to get to PoE territory where he fits.

I think Titus is now pretty firmly in town territory. Clidd and username as well. I would like IV to prove himself today so I can be sure there on the town vibes I was getting yesterday.

That means there is almost certainly scum in Murdercat and Ahoska. The other two are in the leftovers.

[VP Baltar]

Oh lol, if my town reads are right, scum have to be Klyne and Bulge? Maybe the PoE is too tight here.

[Klyne]

CHRISTMAS TIME

I WAS WRONG AND IVE NEVER BEEN SO EXCITED TO BE

[Klyne]

BE SEEING YOU SOON AFTER THE HOLIDAYS

[VP Baltar]

BE SEEING YOU SOON AFTER THE HOLIDAYS

You'll probably be dead by then wolf boy

[Klyne]

IF YOU THINK IM WOLF/MAFIA THEN YOU WILL BE GETTING COAL IN YOUR STOCKING

SAINT KLYNE WILL DELIVER THE HOLIDAY BEATDOWN AFTER HE'S DONE ON HIS SLEIGH

[Ahsoka]

So do we want a Mafia or a Wolf

Murdercat is likely a Mafia
Klyne is likely a Wolf

[Ahsoka]

How many people figured out who I am from the end of yesterday?

[Ahsoka]

@VPB - I agree with Titus town but mainly because I think Klyne is a wolf, and I’ve already stated I think she’s not mafia.

What is your reasoning for town reading Titus?

[Ahsoka]

VOTE: Murdercat

Murdercat/Clidd is possible, but I haven’t interacted with Clidd at all this game.

I feel like I’d scum read Clidd harder, though, if they were scum.

I think Titus is town, who has a correct read on Murdercat. Me town reading Titus more, which her scum read on me helped, I should add, helps my Murdercat read.

[Ahsoka]

If VPB is scum, he’s a wolf probably. The Datisi kill is something that makes me think he might not be a wolf, though, because VPB was so adamantly defending VPB, but Klyne/VPB as a wolf team dictates a Datisi kill, so there’s still the possibility.

Considering I think Klyne is a wolf, I think VPB’s wolf chances go up.

Mafia likely are trying to put Wolves and threats on the Mafia side.

I will say, I don’t know if my instincts for things are as strong in an open setup, but I feel that’s what I would be thinking if I were scum.

[VP Baltar]

Why no mention of IV, Ahoska?

As far as why I am townreading Titus, I expressed more of a town read on her yesterday from her play. A Titus/Datisi wolf combo was the only thing holding me back from more of a full commitment there. With Datisi flipping green, I think Titus' town equity goes up.

[Ahsoka]

I didn’t mention a few people, I believe.

I talked about IV yesterday some, though.

I haven’t talked about Iamausername either, but I liked their post going over the numbers of everything.

[Ahsoka]

Why no mention of IV, Ahoska?

As far as why I am townreading Titus, I expressed more of a town read on her yesterday from her play. A Titus/Datisi wolf combo was the only thing holding me back from more of a full commitment there. With Datisi flipping green, I think Titus' town equity goes up.

I’m fine with this. That’s not something that was on my mind necessarily, but I think Klyne wolf probability makes Titus townie for me, in addition to her pushing Murdercat and myself, which is just kinda weird coming from scum considering Murdercat is someone I’ve been suspicious of since they discredited me on my replace in, which I believe Datisi brought up, and I replied through Datisi.

VPB/Klyne wolf partnering possibility, yeah Titus probably town.

[Ahsoka]

Probably the only one I’m comfortable with calling town in confidence.

Haven’t played Multiball in a while

[Ahsoka]

Why no mention of IV, Ahoska?

As far as why I am townreading Titus, I expressed more of a town read on her yesterday from her play. A Titus/Datisi wolf combo was the only thing holding me back from more of a full commitment there. With Datisi flipping green, I think Titus' town equity goes up.

Why isn’t Titus Mafia for you?

[VP Baltar]

Why no mention of IV, Ahoska?

As far as why I am townreading Titus, I expressed more of a town read on her yesterday from her play. A Titus/Datisi wolf combo was the only thing holding me back from more of a full commitment there. With Datisi flipping green, I think Titus' town equity goes up.

Why isn’t Titus Mafia for you?

Huh? Like why am I not calling Titus mafia? You asked me that already

[VP Baltar]

Oh you mean specifically mafia. You know, I'm not sure actually...I thought I had a reason for ruling that out, but I don't remember now. I probably need to do some rereading to recall why I was thinking she could only be a wolf

[innocentvillager]

V/LA holidays 3 days

will probably still post occasionally

[Ahsoka]

Oh you mean specifically mafia. You know, I'm not sure actually...I thought I had a reason for ruling that out, but I don't remember now. I probably need to do some rereading to recall why I was thinking she could only be a wolf

I was the one saying she probably wasn't a wolf.

I did it because she was off of the scum wagon, and on the counterwagon mixed in with the VCA from Day 1.