Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[Ahsoka]

Well, I'm townreading absurdly your style, something I feel I shouldn't be.

Well, it is correct, for what it is worth. Your read. Doesn't mean much right now, but yeah.

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 3.1

MURDERCAT

(1): Ahsoka

Not Voting

(8): The Bulge, clidd, VP Baltar, Titus, innocentvillager, MURDERCAT, iamausername, Klyne

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-01-03 03:57:00)

Notes:

• I hope everyone had a wonderful day yesterday!
  
• I am extending all prod timers by 24 hours for players who haven't posted since dawn, due to the holiday.
  
• innocentvillager and MURDERCAT are both on declared V/LA.

[clidd]

Well, I'm townreading absurdly your style, something I feel I shouldn't be.

I take back this.

[clidd]

Playing with is much more comical than I normally would post, but when I am searching for scum, I do what must be done.

Jesus, how did I not see that.

[Ahsoka]

It would be a bit

humorous

if you did know why.

[innocentvillager]

Honestly, I'm lost here. It is the first time that I play a multiball and I have no idea if the fact that scum can do genuine scumhunting is distorting my reads.

Yes it actually is quite different if you don’t know what to look for. It’s harder to call stuff “fake content” for example, because scum can actually create real content, and scum want to solve too. That is why I don’t trust many of my reads as much as I would in a normal game. I’ve never been multiball scum either so I don’t what I’m looking for other than the knowledge that my reads could very well be shit. Maybe The Bulge can help shed some light on what it was like to play multiball scum vs normal scum vs multiball town? Idk

Just as an example, one scumtell I thought of is that scum will tend to be more postury and maybe stick out less to appear solvy while town won’t show it as much since they are less focused on survival (until they get wagoned maybe). But I have no idea if this is a real tell for example.

Another reason I think you are town is because of the fact that you have been trying to do your normal towngame and are doing some good re-evaluations of your scumhunting style into the game. You would have to have completely faked this progression/realization as scum because you would already know how different it is the second you started bullshitting content, and I don’t think that is the approach scum!clidd goes for.

VP Baltar feels like his town self but I am still paranoid it is just his wolf self trying to find mafia and I am not sure how to distinguish what part of him is uniquely town. Datisi I felt stronger on as town, but it kind of had to do with the way he was saying things, like he wasn’t afraid to put all his true thoughts out there even if the progressions looked weird

For your MC read, I also got a towny tone towards the beginning, but if the townpings are related to “genuine solving”, I think it’s important to realize that is not a true multiball town ping thing

idk, just my 2 cents

[VP Baltar]

Who are your best guesses at scum, iv?

[innocentvillager]

{clidd}
{VP Baltar, Titus}
{Ahsoka, Klyne, username}
{MC, The Bulge}

very roughly

[VP Baltar]

Username that low. Spicy. Tell me more.

[innocentvillager]

idk he was kinda scummy as town last time I played with him and didn’t feel like this really, feels more like aggro town this game so I’m slightly conflicted

[The Bulge]

it's the most wonderful time of the yeeeeeear

sorry gang, busy time for parcel couriers. I should make more use of the v/la function in the future.

[clidd]

Yeah, IV is very likely town. I sympathized a lot with 1405.

[clidd]

VOTE: MURDERCAT

[The Bulge]

Oh you mean specifically mafia. You know, I'm not sure actually...I thought I had a reason for ruling that out, but I don't remember now. I probably need to do some rereading to recall why I was thinking she could only be a wolf

I think the general consensus was that if Titus or Klyne were mafia then the galaxii flashwagon would not have happened the way it did.

[The Bulge]

Honestly, I'm lost here. It is the first time that I play a multiball and I have no idea if the fact that scum can do genuine scumhunting is distorting my reads.

Yes it actually is quite different if you don’t know what to look for. It’s harder to call stuff “fake content” for example, because scum can actually create real content, and scum want to solve too. That is why I don’t trust many of my reads as much as I would in a normal game. I’ve never been multiball scum either so I don’t what I’m looking for other than the knowledge that my reads could very well be shit. Maybe The Bulge can help shed some light on what it was like to play multiball scum vs normal scum vs multiball town? Idk

in brassherald's Masons&monks my basic mindset/strategy wasn't really any different from any other scumgame; I simply pretended to be town. it just happens to be a lot easier to do that in multiball because you're only pretending to

be

townie, you don't have to pretend at all to

do

townie things. the main difference in multiball scumplay, imo, comes later in the game when you have to identify the remaining townies. as our numbers dwindle I'm trying to keep an eye out this game for things I was doing in later stages of m&m, like appealing to strong townies, feigning aimlessness, laying anti-associatives, etc.

[The Bulge]

VOTE: MURDERCAT

interested in hearing your process here. what turned you?

[The Bulge]

also I know I haven't been present this past week but Ahsoka is avoiding my slot big time

do I know your main? (not phishing, y/n is fine)

[clidd]

VOTE: MURDERCAT

interested in hearing your process here. what turned you?

I think it was a set of things.

I believe that rereading his iso with the knowledge that the things I saw as towny were superficial, the final figure is very different from what I had captured previously.

[clidd]

And I'm skeptical about the fact that I'm still alive (I was the slot who was most townreading him).

[The Bulge]

any particular reason you can think of that you didn't catch whatever it is you're seeing now on the first time around? what is your experience with multiball?

[clidd]

It was probably because I ignored the fact that scum can be genuine in scumhunting. I imagined that the cognitive burden of being scum was independent of that. But now I'm having a hard time finding who is scum (considering that my scumhunting process had pointed to DV as scum, but he was town). I have no previous experience with multiballs.

[clidd]

I mean, MC was a big tr to me before, but right now he did nothing to maintain this and with the reevaluations that I'm doing in other slots, he is also getting closer to being scum for poe.

[clidd]

By poe*

[Klyne]

CHRISTMAS IS..OVER

AND JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

EVERY TIME I THINK ABOUT THIS GAME IT'S LIKE THIS

"........."

[Klyne]

Why the sam hell did Titus shoot up in townreads? The game hasn't changed that much people