Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[Ahsoka]

I am town here.

I had 6 scum games in a row, this was my first town game in a while.

[Ahsoka]

im in a mood right now, where i dont really exist, but im just floating along, but not in a good way

[innocentvillager]

I just don't think it is very prudent to judge a gimmick that was conceived in-game the same as if it were an established alt. obviously changing the gimmick was influenced by game factors, so why should you or Ahsoka or anyone ignore that

what is AI about Klyne's gimmick change to you?

[innocentvillager]

my modded game Mini Normal 2183 just ended with a scum!Flavor conceding at the end, for those of you who want to check that out.

[PageTopAndy]

Hey I'm here but can't provide much content at the current hour but initial reads on the last two pages are IV and VP came off as towny didn't look into the other players yet.

[innocentvillager]

hi pagetopandy!

just curious if you don't mind me asking: why did you replace into this game? i assume you're an alt of someone and you know some of us here?

[innocentvillager]

Spoiler: username/klyne wolf pairing vc?

as others town read

Klick

Has anyone actually expressed a townread on me? I just looked back and couldn't find anyone.

Most of your posts so far have seemed to me like you're more interested in actively shutting down potential reads than developing reads.

Why is that?

ding ding ding

VOTE: Klyne

Vote Count 1.1

Titus

(4): ORAM,

Klick

, Klyne,

MURDERCAT

Klyne

(3):

Titus

, iamausername,

Marashu

Taly

(2):

PlusJOYED

,

Battle Mage

MURDERCAT

(1): JacksonVirgo

PlusJOYED

(1): Taly

Not Voting

(2): clidd,

DeasVail

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Vote Count 1.2

Titus

(5): ORAM,

Klick

, Klyne,

MURDERCAT

, clidd

Taly

(2):

PlusJOYED

,

Battle Mage

PlusJOYED

(2): Taly,

DeasVail

Klyne

(2):

Titus

, iamausername

MURDERCAT

(1): JacksonVirgo

Not Voting

(1):

Marashu

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Vote Count 1.3

Titus

(2): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

Taly

(2):

PlusJOYED

,

Battle Mage

PlusJOYED

(2): Taly,

DeasVail

Klyne

(2):

Titus

, iamausername

Battle Mage

(1): ORAM

Klick

(1):

Marashu

Not Voting

(3): clidd, The Bulge,

Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Notes:

• Taly is V/LA until Sunday.

Hell, most people seem to be leery of my slot so I'd even be fine with votes here so people take sides.

if you insist

VOTE: ORAM

Vote Count 1.4

ORAM

(3):

Battle Mage

,

DeasVail

, iamausername

Titus

(2): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

PlusJOYED

(1): Taly

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Battle Mage

(1): ORAM

Klick

(1):

Marashu

Klyne

(1):

Titus

Not Voting

(3): The Bulge, clidd,

Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Notes:

• Taly and
  Titus
  are both V/LA until Sunday.
  
• Battle Mage
  is V/LA for the weekend.

Vote Count 1.5

ORAM

(4):

Battle Mage

,

DeasVail

, iamausername, The Bulge

Titus

(2): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

PlusJOYED

(1): Taly

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Battle Mage

(1): ORAM

Klick

(1):

Marashu

Klyne

(1):

Titus

Not Voting

(2): clidd,

Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Notes:

• Taly and
  Titus
  are both V/LA until Sunday.
  
• Battle Mage
  is V/LA for the weekend.
  
• Seeking a replacement for ORAM.

Vote Count 1.6

ORAM

(4):

Battle Mage

,

DeasVail

, iamausername, The Bulge

Klyne

(3):

Titus

, Taly, clidd

Titus

(2): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Battle Mage

(1): ORAM

Klick

(1):

Marashu

Not Voting

(1):

Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Notes:

• Seeking replacements for ORAM,
  Marashu
  , and
  Battle Mage
  .

VP Baltar replaces ORAM.

Vote Count 1.7

Titus

(5): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

, clidd, VP Baltar, The Bulge

VP Baltar

(3):

Battle Mage

,

DeasVail

, iamausername

Klyne

(2):

Titus

, Taly

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Klick

(1):

Datisi

Not Voting

(1):

Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Notes:

• Seeking replacements for
  Battle Mage
  and
  Klick
  .

Titus

(5): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

, clidd, VP Baltar, The Bulge

i'm realising now why i have felt no desire to join the

Titus

wagon despite not townreading her at all. i'm feeling some level of bad vibes from every one of these people.

now that i've figured that out, i actually feel a little less reluctance to join - could well be that

Titus

is scum from one faction with the other faction driving her wagon.

I don't follow your logic here, and I don't think it's just because I entirely disagree with the vibes you get from this wagon comp. why does that make you less reluctant to join? what makes you think it is a wagon driven by a single scumfaction?

it makes me less reluctant to join because my reluctance stems from being used to playing games with only one scum faction, in which i would absolutely not want to join a wagon filled with people i find scummy.

i... am struggling to find a way to answer the second question that isn't just restating the exact same thing i already said in that post? if

Titus

is scum, and there are scum pushing her wagon, then obviously it's going to be driven by a single scum faction?

in other news, isn't it fun how i have incited VP Baltar to both argue vociferously that he did not have an agenda in his catchup post and argue vociferously that he did have an agenda, and that having an agenda is pro-town, actually

I'm not seeing this at all?

yeah, looking back now with a dispassionate eye, i must concede that this has less basis in reality than i felt like it did yesterday. i think i got caught up in how absolutely wild i found it that Baltar responded to my accusation of approaching the game with an agenda in mind by saying "yeah, i totally did that" and perceived some things that did not, in actual fact, happen. hm.

i still think Baltar is scum tho. would most definitely prefer him as the counterwagon to

Titus

.

i have been having decision paralysis as to whether this post ends with a

Titus

vote or a Klyne vote for a good thirty minutes but after isoing both of them i'm going with

VOTE: Klyne

ok just click submit already christ

Vote Count 1.7

Titus

(5): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

, clidd, VP Baltar, The Bulge

Klyne

(5):

Titus

, Taly,

DeasVail

,

Datisi

, iamausername

VP Baltar

(1):

galaxii

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Not Voting

(1):

Klick

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:00:00)

Notes:

• Still seeking a replacement for
  Klick
  .

Vote Count 1.8

Titus

(5): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

, clidd, VP Baltar, The Bulge

Klyne

(5):

Titus

, Taly,

DeasVail

,

Datisi

, iamausername

VP Baltar

(1):

galaxii

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Not Voting

(1): ben dover123

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:59:00)

Notes:

• Thank you again to all our replacements!

Vote Count 1.9

Titus

(4): Klyne,

MURDERCAT

, clidd, The Bulge

Klyne

(4):

Titus

, Taly,

DeasVail

, iamausername

galaxii

(3): VP Baltar,

Datisi

, ben dover123

VP Baltar

(1):

galaxii

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:59:00)

ok fine

VOTE:

galaxii

i don't think scum Baltar makes this move here, so i'm actually liking the composition of this wagon a lot. i'm a little concerned that we don't get all that much info even with a scum flip here, but the whole nightkill thing in this setup should give us plenty to work with for D2 anyhow. let's just get this day done.

Vote Count 1.10

galaxii

(6): VP Baltar,

Datisi

, ben dover123, Klyne,

DeasVail

, iamausername

Titus

(2): clidd, The Bulge

Klyne

(2):

Titus

, Taly

VP Baltar

(1):

galaxii

Taly

(1):

PlusJOYED

Not voting

(1):

MURDERCAT

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-12 02:59:00)

[innocentvillager]

the above is just Day 1 vcs centered username's votes. i forgot to put ben dover123 in green. i put me in blue, neat idea i took from FL.

the username/klyne solve has been floating around and i just... don't think it's that likely with how close Klyne was to execution at times and username jumping on, then off, then on and staying there for a long time as opposed to the town!Titus counterwagon. Klyne was at risk to go through at EOD1 if it weren't for VP's flashwagon on galaxii at the end. I really don't think WWs get much incentive to bus their singular partner on D1 because there were still 3 mafia floating around that would not have exempted iamausername from being scum anyway.

[PageTopAndy]

hi pagetopandy!

just curious if you don't mind me asking: why did you replace into this game? I assume you're an alt of someone and you know some of us here?

I don't believe I've played with anyone from this game but I know of the mod so I figured I might as well join this one. I get the impression that you thought that I am an alt of an account that you have played with?

[innocentvillager]

not necessarily I didn’t have a guess or anything like that! I just assumed since you joined yesterday that you created the alt specifically because you wanted to play this game, which is in its late stages, so I assumed it was likely you knew someone here. If it’s the mod that also makes sense lol. Also who has “pagetop” in their name and hasn’t played MS before lol

[Klyne]

GONNA READ CLIDD EVENTUALLY AGAIN

[Klyne]

I am town here.

I had 6 scum games in a row, this was my first town game in a while.

I LEGITIMATELY BELIEVE YOU AND THINK YOURE IN BURNOUT IN GENERAL WITH MAFIA

I DONT HAVE THE ENERGY TO GO BACK INTO PARAGRAPH THIS THIS THIS THIS MODE SO WE'RE BACK TO THIS BABY

WHAT ABOUT ME AND YOU START THE REVOLUTION AND VOTE CLIDD, I ACTUALLY DONT WANNA READ FUCK WORDS

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: klyne

I'm actually ready to do this. Klyne is absolutely a wolf and I'm tired of waiting for him to actually scum hunt.

[PageTopAndy]

I am town here.

I had 6 scum games in a row, this was my first town game in a while.

I LEGITIMATELY BELIEVE YOU AND THINK YOURE IN BURNOUT IN GENERAL WITH MAFIA

I DONT HAVE THE ENERGY TO GO BACK INTO PARAGRAPH THIS THIS THIS THIS MODE SO WE'RE BACK TO THIS BABY

WHAT ABOUT ME AND YOU START THE REVOLUTION AND VOTE CLIDD, I ACTUALLY DONT WANNA READ FUCK WORDS

you okay buddy? what is this about?

[VP Baltar]

I am town here.

I had 6 scum games in a row, this was my first town game in a while.

I LEGITIMATELY BELIEVE YOU AND THINK YOURE IN BURNOUT IN GENERAL WITH MAFIA

I DONT HAVE THE ENERGY TO GO BACK INTO PARAGRAPH THIS THIS THIS THIS MODE SO WE'RE BACK TO THIS BABY

WHAT ABOUT ME AND YOU START THE REVOLUTION AND VOTE CLIDD, I ACTUALLY DONT WANNA READ FUCK WORDS

you okay buddy? what is this about?

It's a schtick he is doing. Don't worry about the caps too much

[innocentvillager]

vp you agree with me that Klyne/username are not partners?

[innocentvillager]

Ahsoka/Klyne also doesn't feel like a real pairing either, for a similar reason (Taly was largely on Klyne d1 on most of the VCs, see my spoilered D1 VCs above)

but it's possibly not as pronounced

Klyne/VPB looking less and less likely lately

leaves Klyne/Bulge, Klyne/clidd, Klyne/innocentvillager as the only real solves with Klyne in it

[VP Baltar]

vp you agree with me that Klyne/username are not partners?

I think generally that makes sense.

[innocentvillager]

it looks like your wolf solve is exclusively Klyne/Bulge then? based on your earlier post too? if not can you update us where you stand on that?

[VP Baltar]

it looks like your wolf solve is exclusively Klyne/Bulge then? based on your earlier post too? if not can you update us where you stand on that?

That's most probable. In this setup, nothing is guaranteed. I'm just most confident Klyne is scum here. He has stopped solving the game.

[innocentvillager]

hmmmm

I will iso them and take a look tmr

[innocentvillager]

gth I don’t buy it but I will try to go in with a clear slate

[VP Baltar]

gth I don’t buy it but I will try to go in with a clear slate

Don't buy what?

[PageTopAndy]

Soooooo any interesting pages or events that would be worth a read?

[VP Baltar]

I led a last minute speed wagon on galaxii mafia at the end of D1.

Username cased Murdercat D2 (I think?), and we successfully yeeted him D3.

There have been a lot of replacements this game, so it's a lot to track.