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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:52 am

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In post 1997, Ahsoka wrote:Like worst case scenario, we lose the least active player in the game. We're not endgamed or anything yet.
you said you haven't done the math yet

if we eliminate town:

tomorrow will probably be 2w:1m:2t. Everyone has to hit wolf D5 or wolves win. But even if we hit a wolf, wolves may or may not try to kill the last mafia; if they kill and mafia survive mafia automatically wins in 1:1:1. If wolves don't kill anyone we will have to eliminate the wolf on D6 and eliminate the mafia on D7.

My point is just if we eliminate town today it's a much more uphill battle than a normal f5. If we eliminate mafia we get a normal f5. If we eliminate wolf, we get a much more manageable gamestate with a wolf flip.

anyway it's too late to discuss this theory stuff more, im just saying it's still very important to eliminate correctly today
In post 1999, Ahsoka wrote:why did you take my solve right after I stopped pushing it IV, ugh
flavor, i had it the whole time and i was saying in thread i was "considering it" multiple times, it's not just "your solve"

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In post 1597, innocentvillager wrote:ahsoka how do you feel about:

bulge mafia
username, VPB wolves
In post 889, Titus wrote:VP has no reason to bus a partner yesterday. That eliminates him from being mafia. If he's a wolf, he doesn't give a rats ass if I am executed. In fact, if he's familiar with my play, he'd want that. If Kylne is town, it would be the same thing. So the only viable way this slot is scum is if he feared that Kylne would somehow be executed over me. That position doesn't make sense with galaxii's EoD posting. Given only one possible partnership, I am pretty ok calling this town.
so this was town!Titus's reasoning for, if VPB is scum, he is scum with exactly Klyne here

I don't know if I buy the part where he doesn't care if notpartner!Klyne gets eliminated because there is still more benefit for wolves to eliminate mafia early on. So maybe I will open the VPB wolf pairings to more than just VPB/Klyne.
In post 1601, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 1597, innocentvillager wrote:ahsoka how do you feel about:

bulge mafia
username, VPB wolves
In post 889, Titus wrote:VP has no reason to bus a partner yesterday. That eliminates him from being mafia. If he's a wolf, he doesn't give a rats ass if I am executed. In fact, if he's familiar with my play, he'd want that. If Kylne is town, it would be the same thing. So the only viable way this slot is scum is if he feared that Kylne would somehow be executed over me. That position doesn't make sense with galaxii's EoD posting. Given only one possible partnership, I am pretty ok calling this town.
so this was town!Titus's reasoning for, if VPB is scum, he is scum with exactly Klyne here

I don't know if I buy the part where he doesn't care if notpartner!Klyne gets eliminated because there is still more benefit for wolves to eliminate mafia early on. So maybe I will open the VPB wolf pairings to more than just VPB/Klyne.

Yeah, that's a possible solve, I like that.

I also was stating yesterday VPB and Klyne were likely wolves together, but I kind of liked Klyne's posts towards me. The caps is the only thing that pings me, almost like trying to come off as angry.

But yes, this is my force sensitive, stay calm, account.


VP is giving me a lot of mixed vibes though now which is making me way more unsure than i was a couple days ago. I still feel pretty decent about username being wolf, I think. I think maybe my original solve going into today username/bulge was fine.
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:09 am

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In post 1993, innocentvillager wrote:lmfao omg

yeah i don't want klyne today lol
I'm so confused how you found that screed townie
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:11 am

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Vote Count 4.6
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(2): VP Baltar, iamausername
The Bulge
(2): Ahsoka, Klyne
iamausername
(1): innocentvillager

Not voting
(2): PageTopAndy, The Bulge

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to execute someone.

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(expired on 2021-01-09 19:35:00)
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 2001, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1993, innocentvillager wrote:lmfao omg

yeah i don't want klyne today lol
I'm so confused how you found that screed townie
so you really think klyne/bulge is just wolf-wolf bussing cuz they're cornered?
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:35 am

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Well I have to say I'm a bit concerned that EVERYONE is pro Bulge yeet. And that really does kind of fuck with my solve.

To quote someone I know: "fuck this game"
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:36 am

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I thought you were fine voting with the consensus though? why the paranoia only now?
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:49 am

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In post 2002, Umlaut wrote:
Vote Count 4.6
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(2): VP Baltar, iamausername
The Bulge
(2): Ahsoka, Klyne
iamausername
(1): innocentvillager

Not voting
(2): PageTopAndy, The Bulge

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to execute someone.

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(expired on 2021-01-09 19:35:00)

This split sucks major ass
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:09 am

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In post 2005, innocentvillager wrote:I thought you were fine voting with the consensus though? why the paranoia only now?
It's a big decision mostly. I mean, bulge is in my solve so I need to just trust my gut. I get weirded out when there is no resistance though. That always feels like scum must be comfortable with it.
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:43 am

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I think I was wrong about iv and..........i kinda really like his vp/username solve. I didnt love vpb's AtE these last couple pages at all and I've had minor suspicions of username for a long time (tho admittedly without having looked back over either of their isos before typing this)
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:43 am

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andy mafia looks legit enough
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:44 am

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In post 1982, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1981, innocentvillager wrote:idk I still think you're scum but im still paranoid and getting mixed vibes from you so if you're town i'd like to try and convince you that at least username is likely wolf?
If you want to know my paranoid theory, it is that username really could be a wolf here. I've kind of been watching how he voted around Klyne/Bulge to guage intentions and motivation. He did give a decent explanation for his switch, but that's not outside the realm of faking. (Plus I just haven't had time to closely fact check all his linked posts).

At the end of the day, if the consensus is username, I'm going to vote there. I know my alignment, so he has a better chance of flipping wolf than me.

I do want to respond to your points about Klyne though. I just need to get the time to do that. My work life is hell because of the coup. I'm going to try after my shift today if I get off at a reasonable time.
+partner imo, and username not mentioning vp in his next few posts strikes me as well
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:48 am

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VOTE: iamausername

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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:52 am

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Feel like you were winding up to vote me, tbh
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:57 am

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less confident about you because i havent done any research yet. ive thought you were town for the better part of the game.
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:04 pm

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In post 2008, The Bulge wrote:I think I was wrong about iv and..........i kinda really like his vp/username solve. I didnt love vpb's AtE these last couple pages at all and I've had minor suspicions of username for a long time (tho admittedly without having looked back over either of their isos before typing this)

that was my solve
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:05 pm

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In post 2014, Ahsoka wrote:
In post 2008, The Bulge wrote:I think I was wrong about iv and..........i kinda really like his vp/username solve. I didnt love vpb's AtE these last couple pages at all and I've had minor suspicions of username for a long time (tho admittedly without having looked back over either of their isos before typing this)

that was my solve
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:05 pm

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good to know thank you
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:06 pm

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It's literally been the thing I was pushing all day
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:06 pm

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and as soon as i went off of it, IV switched.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:07 pm

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yea i remember you commenting on that specifically
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:08 pm

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does that change your views on iv at all? i know you said if he's town then youre probably right about vp
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:14 pm

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my read's lowered on IV.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 2004, VP Baltar wrote:To quote someone I know: "fuck this game"
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:28 pm

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Klyne and Ahsoka are absolutely going to pile onto me now. Bulge idk if you're town or mafia, but i beg you to reconsider. executing town here is bad for you either way.

i would beg IV too, but i think he's too far gone into confbias.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:36 pm

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In post 2023, iamausername wrote:Bulge idk if you're town or mafia,
you know i am not wolf tho yea?

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