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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:50 pm

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In post 2320, Finral wrote:@Firebringer - Let's case Oil some more. What are your main reasons for scum reading Oil?
Poor solving
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:51 pm

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In post 2325, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2320, Finral wrote:@Firebringer - Let's case Oil some more. What are your main reasons for scum reading Oil?
Poor solving
Bad interactions
Angle pushing don’t seem genuine
Yeah, that's where I'm at.

I'm at like a 75% they're scum, 25% I'm tunneling.
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:56 pm

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VOTE: Oil

Reinstating my vote after rage stepoff.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:58 pm

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Wowzers y'all.

VOTE: oil

Where my Gamma voters at? Can I get updated thoughts on that slot?

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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:01 pm

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Now that I'm outed, unfortunate, because I absolutely wasn't going to out, but I got lazy and didn't feel like keeping up with a different playstyle, I can explain my Firebringer and Battle Mage town reads more.

Battle Mage got happy when they found out it was me, and Firebringer always sheeps me when they are town, and I think they knew it was me for a while too.

I thought I was going to scumread Firebringer based on the Mastina/Firebringer because initially I thought it was legit TvS on top of it being a genuine personal issue, but the more I went into it, I just couldn't see myself scumreading Firebringer. They just haven't really done anything to push a scum agenda, and this is the exact Firebringer I semi trolled in last year's Team Mafia.

I also correctly town read Firebringer in Xenoblade, and frankly, Fire and I have indirectly seen each other around for like 6 years almost now.

We've got in like 1 big toxic fight in those times, and I was scum, but other than that, I've always felt pretty good about reading them, and I really don't think they try to pocket me as scum, which is inherently what they would have to be doing right now.

Superbowl has been subtly chopping my momentum down, but I could see them doing it as town, but it's something I definitely noted and didn't want to bring up more because I didn't plan on ever legitimately outing.
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:02 pm

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In post 2328, kookiemonster wrote:Wowzers y'all.

VOTE: oil

Where my Gamma voters at? Can I get updated thoughts on that slot?

-j

Johnny, I'm Gamma slot, and have been pushing Oil slot for a while.
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:03 pm

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I still think the Kookie read is too high personally, but I'm not like scum reading them. I'm just not counting out there scum game completely.

I've only seen a handful of games from both of them, though, so I'd rather not meta them.
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:04 pm

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Lets just VOTE: Finral then.

If Johnny had a SR on your predecessor, I am more than happy to see you faded.

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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:05 pm

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In post 2332, kookiemonster wrote:Lets just VOTE: Finral then.

If Johnny had a SR on your predecessor, I am more than happy to see you faded.

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Go for it.

I'm a pretty high town read, though. Even Oil just said I was probably town.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 2333, Finral wrote:
In post 2332, kookiemonster wrote:Lets just VOTE: Finral then.

If Johnny had a SR on your predecessor, I am more than happy to see you faded.

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Go for it.

I'm a pretty high town read, though. Even Oil just said I was probably town.
Oh if we want to brag about being TRed, I think I can as well.

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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:07 pm

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In post 2334, kookiemonster wrote:
In post 2333, Finral wrote:
In post 2332, kookiemonster wrote:Lets just VOTE: Finral then.

If Johnny had a SR on your predecessor, I am more than happy to see you faded.

-Noraa
Go for it.

I'm a pretty high town read, though. Even Oil just said I was probably town.
Oh if we want to brag about being TRed, I think I can as well.

-Noraa
why would you brag about being town read? That's just asking to be night killed or used by scum.
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:10 pm

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I always get misfaded as town now. Scum are afraid of me, and townies are afraid of being fooled by me. The way the world works. :shrug:

I remember when I went years without being misfaded or losing scum games. Those days will never be again.
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:12 pm

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Norra seems to have some personal issue with u
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 2332, kookiemonster wrote:Lets just VOTE: Finral then.

If Johnny had a SR on your predecessor, I am more than happy to see you faded.

-Noraa
And you just still need to learn how to town read me so like, makes sense.
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:13 pm

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In post 2330, Finral wrote:
In post 2328, kookiemonster wrote:Wowzers y'all.

VOTE: oil

Where my Gamma voters at? Can I get updated thoughts on that slot?

-j

Johnny, I'm Gamma slot, and have been pushing Oil slot for a while.
Not a push, a genuine question. That whole wagon died despite the two confirmed town on it. And having a higher profile player in the slot seems to have scared flea, oil, and Nero off case? I would like to know what's changed.
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 2337, Firebringer wrote:Norra seems to have some personal issue with u
Yeah, I criticized her play in another game, she came after me in the way Nancy used to if I pushed Nancy as scum, and I went to town calling out my issues with her play.

I was blunt, as per usual, but she thinks it was personal.
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 2336, Finral wrote:I always get misfaded as town now. Scum are afraid of me, and townies are afraid of being fooled by me. The way the world works. :shrug:

I remember when I went years without being misfaded or losing scum games. Those days will never be again.
The truth is that you're for some reason afraid to admit that you've made a mistake or that you've played poorly. You have an over emphasis on being accurate when accuracy is a small piece of the pie and you split towns down the center thus creating a silly dumpster fire like we're dealing with now.
Fire is bad for business.
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 2339, kookiemonster wrote:scared flea, oil, and Nero off case?

Nah, Oil and Nero came at me. Flea was even willing to for a bit.

I thought I was going to go down.

Nero pushes me incorrectly as town, though, in a way I've learned to respect.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:16 pm

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Vote: Duunstral
Fire is bad for business.
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 2340, Finral wrote:
In post 2337, Firebringer wrote:Norra seems to have some personal issue with u
Yeah, I criticized her play in another game, she came after me in the way Nancy used to if I pushed Nancy as scum, and I went to town calling out my issues with her play.

I was blunt, as per usual, but she thinks it was personal.
Before I get an apology for asshole behavior towards me, I may do what I wish to do.

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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 2340, Finral wrote:
In post 2337, Firebringer wrote:Norra seems to have some personal issue with u
Yeah, I criticized her play in another game, she came after me in the way Nancy used to if I pushed Nancy as scum, and I went to town calling out my issues with her play.

I was blunt, as per usual, but she thinks it was personal.
Yeah she reminds me Nancy in some ways
In post 2341, Oil Tycoons wrote:
In post 2336, Finral wrote:I always get misfaded as town now. Scum are afraid of me, and townies are afraid of being fooled by me. The way the world works. :shrug:

I remember when I went years without being misfaded or losing scum games. Those days will never be again.
The truth is that you're for some reason afraid to admit that you've made a mistake or that you've played poorly. You have an over emphasis on being accurate when accuracy is a small piece of the pie and you split towns down the center thus creating a silly dumpster fire like we're dealing with now.
Okay this is second time u been fanning flames instead of solving. What is motivating u to pick at stuff instead of push a solve
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 2341, Oil Tycoons wrote:
In post 2336, Finral wrote:I always get misfaded as town now. Scum are afraid of me, and townies are afraid of being fooled by me. The way the world works. :shrug:

I remember when I went years without being misfaded or losing scum games. Those days will never be again.
The truth is that you're for some reason afraid to admit that you've made a mistake or that you've played poorly. You have an over emphasis on being accurate when accuracy is a small piece of the pie and you split towns down the center thus creating a silly dumpster fire like we're dealing with now.
I just talk. I even specifically stated I'm not all that sure. I'm one of the biggest flip floppers on site, but I've also solved more games than most in both individual fashion and high team synergy fashion.

If I think I played poorly, I'll say it.
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 2339, kookiemonster wrote:
In post 2330, Finral wrote:
In post 2328, kookiemonster wrote:Wowzers y'all.

VOTE: oil

Where my Gamma voters at? Can I get updated thoughts on that slot?

-j

Johnny, I'm Gamma slot, and have been pushing Oil slot for a while.
Not a push, a genuine question. That whole wagon died despite the two confirmed town on it. And having a higher profile player in the slot seems to have scared flea, oil, and Nero off case? I would like to know what's changed.
This level of obnoxiousness, which tends to torpedo Flavor Leaf's chances of survival, tends to strongly imply town from him.
Fire is bad for business.
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:18 pm

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In post 2347, Oil Tycoons wrote:This level of obnoxiousness, which tends to torpedo Flavor Leaf's chances of survival, tends to strongly imply town from him.
It's a personality trait not AI.

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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 2345, Firebringer wrote:Yeah she reminds me Nancy in some ways
I grew to love Nancy, so who knows what'll happen. I was never that harsh with Nancy, though, and now I'm afraid of Nancy when I'm scum.

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