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Hello Funeral Goose! How are you?

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Esoteric would be town for that post but I can't townblock them until they explain wtf a zoomer is and why they chose that name

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Not bad, not bad

Why is lunar martian more orange than gamma emerald in your list?

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snap

That's fair

VOTE: funeral goose

Can you say how many scum you wanted to imply you had in your random color list? I know you prob saw diff colors but where was the random scum # supposed to stop?

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Vote funeral goose, cookie monster

The answer is because funeral goose is scum

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We all must vote funeral goose so that we can get our page 2 redflip

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I do remember the <3

You still read like scum to me

<3

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Ur cute goosey

Next quest is figuring out cookie monster

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page 3 catchup:
Well there's between 4-5 town on goose so that's nice for vca

Italiano's cw seems scummy too so I kinda vibe Sam's page 2 take

Cookie monster and in the beg are the alts I don't know

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idrk about samantha or ydrasse yet. well. maybe they feel a little maf but idk, i don't wanna put a lot of confidence in it. that might just be bc ik i'm biased in thinking the quieter players are more maf, but it not always be like that

Sam is already town

i'm biased in thinking the quieter players are more maf

Yet you are voting the player with that has the most posts?

VOTE: Gretchen

bad vote

this is mind numbing but also fsr feels like theatre

This could be a really ai post for ydra later but idk how it swings yet

my early soulread which i do not guarantee to be right is that esoteric and gretchen are Never scum together

VOTE: gretchen

italiano has sated me for now

I mean that's fine. I don't think gretchen enjoys roleplaying this much as scum but that is not *at all* a 100% accurate meta take. Still I'm vibing her takes mossstly except not finding sam faster so far

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^ i’m also just feeling myself draining away already trying to parse gretchens frantic energy

Tbh this could be town indicative for both of you

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seriously i'm town. i wouldn't be playing like this as maf, i'd just be shutting up and letting everyone else do the talking

Ftr this is obviously a lie, but it's not a lie that makes me think gretchen is more likely to be scum. Think of gretchen as lying about self meta in the same way that shoshin was lying about nico's meta in the o ne boon game. It's a self-serv ing lie but the player thinks it is townie because they want you thinking about scum slots more rather than theirs

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seriously i'm town. i wouldn't be playing like this as maf, i'd just be shutting up and letting everyone else do the talking

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SELF-META

Town

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i just don't see maf voting to kill a partner like that straight away bc people like following the crowd

Isn’t that all the more reason to do it? Towncred and all that? I tend to slightly agree that they’re probably not both scum, but I’m also not ruling it out.

+2 scumpoints

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Gretchen is obviously town and anyone voting them should be ashamed for such an awful read.

This narrows alt pool a lot because in the beginning knew gretchen's main in pre-game. If I am right this *miiiiiight* be town indicative but uhhh only committing to 40% accuracy on this read since my althunt here is jot developed yet

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Must every statement be questioned? It is a fundamental, unalterable fact here. Gretchen town claimed in their first two posts; therefore, she is town.

Tread carefully scum, for I am tracking each and every step you make.

Nvm last post this is just town

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I feel like the fact that I know your main should already be ringing in your ears

I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

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Probably one scum in lunar and battle mage just through poe, there's a lot of town in the active posters

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I could be wrong but I'm probably not

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I have ~4 guesses on cookie monster actually and for all of them I'd need more posts for a sense of alignment, if i'm right on any of them I'll be very happy though!

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Ydra why didn't you join me on funeral? J/w

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So it looks like I’m out of my league here. Page 9 was about alternates. I don’t have a clue. How many alternates are there? Is everyone?

There's at least 4

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Nah gamma you were right, also try not to make it so easy to out him

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I also think you should be voting italiano since that is a much more realistic and much likely better cw to yourself than gretchen

According to you right? Fmpov you’re wrong.

This is your towniest posting yet tbh

But you'll notice I did not vote you over the goose, I was more indicating to the goose what I thought he should do

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Ydra why didn't you join me on funeral? J/w

lotta votes early in

Yeah but now gretchen changed so you'd only be putting to f-2; do you think the goose is town or scum?

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I do love you goose

The problem is cooked goose smells pretty good

<3

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm

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Actually 58 is kinda weird I wonder if I could be wrong on gretchen (alignment wise)

That age old question of 'do we pretend I can sort battle mage or do we just end the day on the guy who has yet to generate a single town indicative read by page 11'

Nah gretchen townie for the hammer lulz probably

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In the beginning probably hammers regardless of anyon's alignment. I don't say that to scaremonger tho. Like the ate is working a bit but I still don't see anything townie from goose

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Why fos sam?

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UNVOTE:

Let me reread this grerchen case

Do not nuke the wagon just not quite ready for speedhammer

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Gretchen scum because 58 tmi's cookie monster? That's the only thing you think is actually scummy, not just trolling right?

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Funeral you said i was trolling and not maf tho. does trolling=maf in your eyes? and i'm not trolling ftr

You are definitely trolling

That's why we love you though

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there is without a doubt 1 mafia in the first four voters of funeral imho
i utterly refuse to believe mafia passes up on a chance to blend in, such as voting a common wagon, they might not vote it because someone might make the same assumption i do but that's crazy layers of wifom
i also refuse to believe that this wagon magically appears out of thin air without mafia interaction

So you think cookie monster scum?

Also this reasoning is poor when 2 players have yet to even post in the game, almost all of this wagon is town

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Why fos sam?

Gut vibe.

I think if you think back to our last day 1 (complrted) this might be more likely to convince me sam is town

Not trying to neg you but that was kinda funny

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I don't think lunar and bm are both scum, I just think saying "there has to be s/s theater already!" is just not a valid argument when scum could have very low activity players, if not bm/ lunar then cookie would be a potential

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If you think funeral is town then would you think cookie monster+gretchen+{one of lunar/battle mage}

I don't buy funeral's sam read at all but the point that 58 is scummy is fair, even if gretchen is town.

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did funeral run away cuz he couldn't handle the heat lmao

Yeah it's nagl especially since I'm not giving him a day if 'gutscum sam' is the depth of thought he's going to give at f-1

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Yeah I'm more asking you to evaluate goose's argument about 58 and whether that is a compelling point about goose/gretchen

Bm/lm are just poe I throw in

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*comelling point about cookie/gretchen

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i thought me being maf meant cookie was town

No if you were scum 58 is more likely to be s/s indicative for cookie than scum white knighting town imo, could go either way, we need more posts from cookie anyway

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I feel like the fact that I know your main should already be ringing in your ears

If this isn't enough then I'm wrong

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i thought me being maf meant cookie was town

No if you were scum 58 is more likely to be s/s indicative for cookie than scum white knighting town imo, could go either way, we need more posts from cookie anyway

hm i don't get it. why?

If you were scum, 58 is an attempted anti-associative that also lets you vote a leading wagon

I still think you're townie for the amount of fun you're having with the roleplay but there are worlds where you flip scum this game for sure

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What does the vd stand for?

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Why do you feel pretty sure in funeral town?

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I would take a look at Hub, Gamma, or Ydrasse if Funeral does flip town.

I mean, I'll never pass by the opportunity to look at Ydrasse

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Tempting. I'm trying to decide if he's:
a) bearded
b) right on Goose and just omgusing the wrong pool
c) scum

his early posting reads scummy but now he's kinda more like, reminding me of unwnd in tenet which makes me think *he thinks* he's right on *something* but people aren't doing what he wants and that's fucking up his reads

still want to see an actual town thought process from Goose tbh, tempted to revote there

I guess with Ydra off I'll get back on Goose so that stays at 5+

VOTE: goose

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hydras aren't allowed in normals right? so in the beginning is just one player?

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These posts are both clearly from a town slot. This just isn't something scum does; scum aren't going to flash a bright neon attention sign on themselves, not this early in the game. Therefore, Gretchen is lock town Day 1 from these posts alone. Anyone pushing here is scum trying to get an easy lim, and I won't stand for it.

I think the bright neon signs is NAI. If Gretchen is scum, it would be more for the way they positioned cookie monster. I'm intrigued by your confidence on the slot tho

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Yes, and the randomized reads list is a problem. Less so who is in it and moreso how you colored it; the coloring doesn't really make sense. You go from green to orange to purple to red. How is anyone supposed to interpret that whatsoever?

unless I'm mistaken, I think Goose said the colors make no sense because they're actually colorblind so I'm kinda bracketing the colors thing for now, I do think the overall thought process of "let's make a lulz list" is a bit awkward in a scummy way so even without the issue with the colors it's still kinda ???

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what the....low activity players? the game opened today

I meant based on the game at that point

I do think you're at least 55% town now tho!

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samantha97

Ydrasse / esotericzoomer / Gamma Emerald

In the beginning

Gretchen / Battle Mage / ItalianoVD

Cookie Monster

Funeral Goose

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Not posted yet: Lunar Martian

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Think I'm like somewhere around here

Idk it's page 16, stuff is still moving around a lot

this doesn't like, look like a correct reads list to me yet, helps me organize my thoughts a bit tho

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You should be but your cookie monster post bothers me too much, if it wasn't for that I'd have you as high town

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Funeral conftown then.

can you actually expand on this thought? I don't totally get the connection you're making

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haha if that is a legit crumb, it is not a good crumb. currently i am minded to recommend people just...don't crumb. unless you can make it super discreet and clever but also go all-in with it (i.e. no cop-outs).

PS: That wasn't a cop crumb

Yeah

No one should crumb power roles

It tends to just confuse the gamestate

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Battle Mage you can't be vanilla townie and masons with me at the same time

Gotta make up your mind! :3

Although maybe it's too soon go make that joke, last time we were masons it didn't go well

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idr the name and tbh I don't even want to talk about it, that was one of the two most toxic games I ever played in, this is already a much better game

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I'm slowly reading up. Don't like Gretchen, and I don't buy the act of both saying "keep me alive I'm very good" and then not seeming to know some really basic stuff. Not going to be voting until I get caught up since 17 pages is a lot of time for wagons to get into the danger zone.

this is a funny post in like a 5d chess kinda way

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ohhhh were we the lucha dragons?

Spoiler:

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this is gonna be one of those games where I end up playing "which scum am I townreading for stupid reasons" really fast

pedit: I am it on this account, but I don't care if you mix it up since I was "he/they" on that account and still accept "he" on my main, but on this account I'm a psychedelic cat and I don't think anyone *really* knows what gender the cheshire cat is, not really. Disney's Wiki uses "he" but can you really trust them? I don't

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Question of the

day

hour

next fifteen minutes: Why did ITB check whether Cookie Monster had signed up for newbie queue games?

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bearded would be goose is scum and his 3 man poe was town, which differs from b in that in b he is correct on goose. Bearded = wrong on every single read

I'm not sure what takes you think we're differing on but I'm okay saying you're probably scum for that take :3

this did feel like a game where scum hadn't posted yet

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Hub are you scum this game

be honest

your vibes are off

nope! what vibes are you feeling are off?

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it was this game gamma -- viewtopic.php?f=56&t=82624

I was Cena and Savage, I... honestly don't even remember who I was hydraing with too lol

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Oh that was because I was wrong on your main, I thought you were someone else that would definitely hammer someone at f-1 d1

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Cookie low because no townpings yet

@gretch -- I just liked him saying 'wrong' over omgusing.

F for 'flip'

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gretch uhh please don't multiquote entire isos plz

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Cookie I guess I would say has not made any posts yet that I'd say are consistently town but they still may very well be town

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VOTE: lunar

Cookie monster has shown us the way

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zoomer! do you think being hypocritical is a maf thing? i don't think it is and i think cookie is a hungry townie

Hungry Townie looking forward to chomping on all the mafia

Locktown

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VOTE: funeral goose

fyi I'm kinda chill with the italiano wagon but am thinking of going for cookie monster myself

I could see something like italiano/Itb/cookie

and no change in vote

This is a pretty good argument but it'd be a lot more damning if the game had been going more than 48 hours. I think tonally gamma is town but this is definitely one way to solve gamma just not, like, this soon? Idk

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Like he's stayed on FG because FG is leading wagon. Gamma is still using his vote even if he is solving elsewhere in the game?

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snap

That's fair

VOTE: funeral goose

Can you say how many scum you wanted to imply you had in your random color list? I know you prob saw diff colors but where was the random scum # supposed to stop?

The first scum are the bottom 5, starts at Gretchen

Goose still wrote this post which is in the top 5 of scummiest posts this game and still not a bad wagon, maybe even a good d1 flip since it means outing no power

The vt claim is like, alright, but there's a real chance FG was just hoping the d1 wagon would go away on its own. He hasn't done anything town indicative.

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VT all the way.

I havr FOS on Gret and Sam. Gamma and HUB town. The rest are still null.

Actually idk, 68 isn't bad maybe, I do like the me+gamma takes and I can see the gretchen take, and I guess I can't fault being 3/4 even if I don't like the sam push

I just don't think goose did anything that means the people that stayed on the wagon are scummy.

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VT all the way.

I havr FOS on Gret and Sam. Gamma and HUB town. The rest are still null.

wait. why'd you think you were dead here?

He didn't?

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Yeah the fos on gretchen is still the best post. I'm curious about ydra thinking gretch/goose was s/s theater since that was also ydra's towniest post/group of posts

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also focusing on whether I outed his main when he's at like l1 was very scummy too

He's had several very scummy/awkward posts. Curious who the actual main is if it's really not bell, but it like... doesn't matter, there's no main where I'd be like 'oh ok well this iso is clearly town now'

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Spoiler: For Ydrasse and Sam

Funeral Goose has changed his signature to death, death, goose to secretly signal to Gretchen that he's a traitor!

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Alright I am convinced you're not Bell and now I'm much more curious about your main.

Also that was an inside joke, not a serious accusation, hence the directed spoiler tag

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Yeah I don't really mind if Gretchen flips scum lol

For a second I was confused because I couldn't even remember for a moment who you were pushing. Do you think Gretchen is scum like trying to destabilize townblock or what do you think of her recent play? Given how inspired you seem about the push you don't seem to be pushing it all that hard?

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Spoiler: For Ydrasse and Sam

Funeral Goose has changed his signature to death, death, goose to secretly signal to Gretchen that he's a traitor!

Not you too man. You of all people should know what I'm trying to do here. You and Gamma are like the only people in this game I look up to. You're super cool and you've got a really cool mouth. You didn't do what people expected you to do. You wanted to push a wagon and you went for it. I admire that. I just want to follow my dream like you did. Once you listen to me, Funeral Goose, you'd know its a dream worth following.

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Really tempted to give the goose a daypass for this post lmao

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I don’t know what’s going on, but I feel something must come of this. If not for just reactions.

VOTE: Gretchen

I would take a look at Hub, Gamma, or Ydrasse if Funeral does flip town.

Huh this is a more confusing thought process than I thought. My bearded comment was about the gamma/hub/ydra pool on a funeral greenflip, not the gretchen vote which is more idk

You could even be 2/4 which would actually be above rand, although I think of those 4 you'd be at most 1/4. Actually maybe idk if it's not too early a reads list might help me follow your thoughts more

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Like even if gretchen is scum can we not do gretchen day 1 because gretchen is clearly having alot of fun and I enjoy her posts even though she's dropped into my poe a little bit

I probably had two town at the bottom of my poe but I'm okay with my lunar vote rn.

New readlist tomorrow after donuts

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hub. i'm surprised i've slipped further down for you after recent posting, why's that? italiano is fairly obv maf

More goose and cookie went up, and while lunar went down still means the lower poe drops a slot

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what’s with the lunar wagon?

dunno
tempted to hop on it because it's the purest looking one out of all of them but i'd rather give lunar some time

VOTE: Lunar Martian

totally

Second heavy townping from this slot :3

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i could go for lunar but i don’t have a strong read there. looked over the few amount of posts and the wagon seems like... path of least resistance to get elimmed given the lack of content

or scum is bussing. but eh? it just doesn’t feel useful when lunar is scarcely here

He was agreeing with so much I said I thought he was parroting me, then turned around and sussed me because he thought our takes were too different lmao

That was such a weird post that it needs some vote-based investigation

also this post is kinda scummy from you ydra

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Ohhh nooo is ydra scum

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You're kinda shading the wagon without really defending Lunar and then you vote the newbie queue player who wants to chomp the mafia

I'm worried ydra!

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You seem to be defending Lunar a bit here...

This seems like a fair question, not a scummy preflip to me?

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Oh wait cookie might still be a stealth alt

And @esoteric -- it kinda is a fair question because if you *seem* to be defending someone without arguing the slot is town and *clearly* defend a slot then the defense can come off as scummy

Like if cookie is like 'oh ima push lunar' and ur like 'ur argument is bad' then that can seem scummy because cookie doesn't like... always need perfect reasons to push someone? If nothing else he still needs to sort lunar right?

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You're talking about hypocrisy but not scum motivation -- yeah, ydra, I'm worried lol

Cookie being new or not (maybe she's not) doesn't matter, I'm just not sure I believe you think it's actually scummy

Like what is your read of Lunar?

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Esoteric and Ydrasse can be Town.

clock is ticking

this brings back my first thought on gretchen: if this isn't not_mafia I'm voting them

What happened between this and your last post?
Italiano, Gretchen, and Sam are early scumleans.

Tempting. I'm trying to decide if he's:
a) bearded
b) right on Goose and just omgusing the wrong pool
c) scum

his early posting reads scummy but now he's kinda more like, reminding me of unwnd in tenet which makes me think *he thinks* he's right on *something* but people aren't doing what he wants and that's fucking up his reads

still want to see an actual town thought process from Goose tbh, tempted to revote there

I guess with Ydra off I'll get back on Goose so that stays at 5+

VOTE: goose

bearded? HUB is another player who I'm mildly suspicious of. Our takes are very very different on things, which is kinda surprising at this early stage.

He agrees with me on ydra town (at the time), esoteric town, italiano scum (at the time), gretchen problematic, and disagrees with me on ... Sam? And him being wrong about sam is enough that we have "very very different" takes so much that he is 'mildly suspicious of me' -- if you agree on 4/5 reads, what is he disagreeing with me on so much that he is concerned by?

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438 just feels fake to me

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if you guys wanna flip the slot that wants to chomp the mafia over like lunar martian this game then this is gonna be a rough time

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also, why does "wanting to chomp mafia" mean anything?

If you were mafia, would you want to chomp mafia? I think not

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Italiano, Battle Mage, and Samantha are all Mafia.

I have a guilty on Lunar Martian

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Italiano you should bus Lunar Martian

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did lunar claim something?

I do think Italiano quoting my post which was made before F1 as a pretext to hammer without claim is certainly a choice lol

I wanna say "hyperscummy" but I'll probably just revisit that read day 2

I think Gretchen's weird posturing around the hammer and the PoE there is also very scummy though

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Yeah she has that effect on people

but putting you me + gamma in a PoE is probably three town which is below rand for her day 1

I'll hold off on saying whether the italiano read is good or bad after flip

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If I die tonight, then none of these people should be flipped tomorrow: Cookie Monster, esotericzoomer, Gamma Emerald, Funeral Goose, samantha97, Battle Mage

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You have a very curious brand of productive wifom but OK! :3

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Part of me is kinda hoping that Gretchen is panicking and trying to spew herself as unaligned with a Lunar redflip but another part of me recognizes that the hammer was super weird and it's day 1 on an unclaimed slot so Lunar is probably a miss, statistically speaking

but I can dream that beautiful dream.

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Happy Unbirthday Battle Mage!

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oops sorry thought you were done didn't meant to ninja

Happy Unbirthday lendustus!

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Happy Unbirthday Boon: a good N1 kill in most universes for a couple reasons

I'm friends with HUB

damn I'm pocketed <3

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Goooooooosseeeeee!!!!!!

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