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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:21 pm

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if there's 1 thing I know about lunar martian, it's that they hate claiming as town.
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:29 pm

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These are very quick and light reads to give an idea of where my head is. These are all obviously subject to change depending on what happens...
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Goose - as stated a gut read just from postings and interactions. Also I didn’t like how their wagon came about.

Battle Mage - I played one game with Battle Mage (town) and I read another where he was (scum) and my gut tells me he is town. Hasn’t had the most content, but from what I’ve seen I feel like he’s town.

probably town:

Hub - Not really confident putting Hub here as I’ve never played with them and don’t really know what to look for. Postings and interactions have felt decent, but I gotta go with my gut here and it’s telling me they’re more than likely town.

Lunar - Although Lunar’s activity is lacking, the few posts he has made reminds me of Newbie 2049 where he was town.

null:

Gamma - I have only played one game with Gamma and he was scum. I don’t know what tells to look for from town!Gamma, but should be able to sort the slot better once we have some flips.

Ydrasse - Very similar to Gamma here. I have also played exactly only one game with Ydrasse and she was scum, but don’t know what to look for when she’s town. It’s also a slot like Gamma that I’ll have to wait for flips/reveals. I was leaning town for Ydrasse earlier, but there have been things that pinged me and has had me push her up and down the readslist.

Samantha - Can’t really read Samantha. She scumread me which made me think she was scum, but not sure at the moment.

leaning scum/scum:

Cookie Monster - Cookie’s early “why mes” kind of stand out to me. There also seems to be an overall defensiveness there and not the normal townie defensiveness. I’m gutreading this slot right now.

Gretchen - Has been broadcasting how much of a townie she is and wants everybody to follow suit. Aside from tunneling me haven’t seen very much from Gretchen except the aforementioned let’s all be friends.

In the beginning - My recent interactions have me thinking beginning is more than likely scum here. A lot of inconsistencies and hypocrisies and I feel like he jumped on my wagon. And I did initially think his quick clear of Gretchen was kinda ridiculous.

Zoomer - Earlier in the game I was leaning guttown for Ydrasse so I felt Zoomer’s interaction with her was kinda strange and I thought he was attempting to pocket her. When I called it out he kinda brushed it off with a answer almost like let’s not talk about it. To be fair I didn’t come back to it, but I was somewhat distracted.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:40 pm

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Italiano you should bus Lunar Martian
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:59 pm

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you're kidding Battle Mage. right? i can't actually tell
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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:10 pm

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italiano your town reads are entirely gut while you have specific reasons for your maf ones. do you think there's a reason for that?
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:11 pm

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In post 676, ItalianoVD wrote:These are very quick and light reads to give an idea of where my head is. These are all obviously subject to change depending on what happens...
Spoiler:
town:

Goose - as stated a gut read just from postings and interactions. Also I didn’t like how their wagon came about.

Battle Mage - I played one game with Battle Mage (town) and I read another where he was (scum) and my gut tells me he is town. Hasn’t had the most content, but from what I’ve seen I feel like he’s town.

probably town:

Hub - Not really confident putting Hub here as I’ve never played with them and don’t really know what to look for. Postings and interactions have felt decent, but I gotta go with my gut here and it’s telling me they’re more than likely town.

Lunar - Although Lunar’s activity is lacking, the few posts he has made reminds me of Newbie 2049 where he was town.

null:

Gamma - I have only played one game with Gamma and he was scum. I don’t know what tells to look for from town!Gamma, but should be able to sort the slot better once we have some flips.

Ydrasse - Very similar to Gamma here. I have also played exactly only one game with Ydrasse and she was scum, but don’t know what to look for when she’s town. It’s also a slot like Gamma that I’ll have to wait for flips/reveals. I was leaning town for Ydrasse earlier, but there have been things that pinged me and has had me push her up and down the readslist.

Samantha - Can’t really read Samantha. She scumread me which made me think she was scum, but not sure at the moment.

leaning scum/scum:

Cookie Monster - Cookie’s early “why mes” kind of stand out to me. There also seems to be an overall defensiveness there and not the normal townie defensiveness. I’m gutreading this slot right now.

Gretchen - Has been broadcasting how much of a townie she is and wants everybody to follow suit. Aside from tunneling me haven’t seen very much from Gretchen except the aforementioned let’s all be friends.

In the beginning - My recent interactions have me thinking beginning is more than likely scum here. A lot of inconsistencies and hypocrisies and I feel like he jumped on my wagon. And I did initially think his quick clear of Gretchen was kinda ridiculous.

Zoomer - Earlier in the game I was leaning guttown for Ydrasse so I felt Zoomer’s interaction with her was kinda strange and I thought he was attempting to pocket her. When I called it out he kinda brushed it off with a answer almost like let’s not talk about it. To be fair I didn’t come back to it, but I was somewhat distracted.
This is a scumclaim.
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:13 pm

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In post 471, esotericzoomer wrote:Saying gretchen is locktown for these posts is pushing it. It looks like you're trying to push a too scummy to be scum narrative, that's an objectively flawed towntell.
It really isn't. You're oversimplifying my position on the matter.
In post 471, esotericzoomer wrote:That's L-2, there's no reason he should be on L-2.
And? RVS wagons are of that size aren't unusual. Something has to get the game talking; you act as if you've never seen a wagon grow that large so early (when on the contrary, it's not unusual at all).
In post 471, esotericzoomer wrote:If you weren't so oblivious to clear jokes
You can't hide the stiltedness of the comment by claiming it was a joke. Joke or not, it was 100% stilted, and that's a solid ping.
In post 483, esotericzoomer wrote:can we get more reasons to read players rather than their 'vibe'
What an out of place comment! Who is reading players based on vibe?
In post 491, Cookie Monster wrote:there are players who I think are acting scummy and that is
Lunar and Samantha
Meh, samantha gets a pass for day 1.
In post 499, esotericzoomer wrote:this is literally what you have been doing
Hypocrisy is not a scum tell.
In post 507, Cookie Monster wrote:Okay so you’re saying that maybe I should give them a chance? Because honestly I can see where you are aiming from but to me I have given who I think is scum and while maybe previous to that I wasn’t giving reads but that’s because I didn’t have any of I don’t have any how can I give them?
Cookie reads pretty genuine here. She can be town for now.
In post 513, Gretchen wrote:gamma felt the need to express he was cool with the italiano wagon. he also said he might vote for you. but! he voted for neither bc he was voting for funeral and it was important for funeral to remain a counterwagon to his partner in crime, italianoVEEDEE. DUN DUN DUN
I kinda buy this. I'd flip Italiano first (for hopefully obvious reasons).
In post 514, esotericzoomer wrote:p-edit: Nice shade, not defending lunar nor have I ever.
Yeah, you are. You're chainsawing Cookie here.
In post 514, esotericzoomer wrote:I don't think hypocrisy is a scumtell per se or a thing only maf do, it's just scummy.
"I don't think it's scummy, but it's scummy." Make up your mind.
In post 521, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was good to make the move but I wanted to see whether others would follow, which is why I posted that second quoted post
Or... You could be a leader and just vote.
In post 530, ItalianoVD wrote:I’m here guys. I’m catching up now.
Aka filler. You don't need to post that if you have been gone for less than 8 hours.
In post 531, Funeral Goose wrote:I knew that wasn't a hammer but I was at E-1 and since the game was still in the early stage I didn't want anyone to lolhammer.
I would argue this is one of the scummiest posts you've made all game so far.
In post 532, ItalianoVD wrote:*snip*.
Why are you spoilering your posts? Are you that afraid of slipping?
In post 532, ItalianoVD wrote:Well I already told you I was confused and frustrated with all the alternates.
I still don't understand why this is so important to you. Just pretend the alternates are newbies (but perhaps with more experience); you can't use meta on them, but you don't need to.
In post 538, ItalianoVD wrote:I’m wondering why this information was relevant.
I'm wondering why this information wasn't relevant especially given your obsession with alternate accounts.
In post 538, ItalianoVD wrote:Wouldn’t have anything to do with her avatar would it?
No. Anyone who reads based off of avatars is silly.
In post 538, ItalianoVD wrote:They could ask?
Useless response to a question that didn't require one. Definitely shows what Italiano's priorities are this game.
In post 540, Funeral Goose wrote:In short, Gret wanted to get on my wagon since it already had a few votes and just tried to justify it with weak and contridictory reasons.
Bleh post. You can gain some scum points.
In the beginning...

I prefer the abbreviation "beginning".
Please don't abbreviate my username to INB.
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:17 pm

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Mini Normal 2193 Official Vote Count - 1.15


Lunar Martian
(5): Cookie Monster, Happy Unbirthday Boon, esotericzoomer, Battle Mage, samantha97
ItalianoVD
(3): In the beginning, Gretchen, Lunar Martian
Cookie Monster
(2): Gamma Emerald, Ydrasse
Gretchen
(2): Funeral Goose, ItalianoVD

Not Voting
(0):
None.


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

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: (expired on 2021-02-14 17:00:00)
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:37 pm

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VOTE: Lunar

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death, death, goose.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:45 pm

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In post 677, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:Italiano you should bus Lunar Martian
Sure
VOTE: Lunar Martian
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:51 pm

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great just missed it
so why did we vote this out
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:09 pm

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we had literally a full 8 days
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:17 pm

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bc italiano is maf and was scared i'd get him voted out today. pls kill him tommorow if i don't survive the night. thanks
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:22 pm

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i really mean that post. i'll be mad after the game if i die and you don't get italiano day 2. i quoted his whole iso bc his whole iso was maf lmao. so uh don't overthink this and literally just kill him for that hammer alone. like, he's not the type of player to randomly hammer like that, there's some clear maf agenda and survivalism behind it. possible partners are Gamma as explained already, and also hub for pretty much going on all wagons except for italiano's. oh and also battle mage

italiano/gamma/hub/battle mage is my thesis
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:50 pm

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In post 678, Gretchen wrote:you're kidding Battle Mage. right? i can't actually tell
i'm about as serious as can be in these circumstances...

it's page 28 in a mini game. I don't think Lunar is the sort of player to joke around about their role as town, so they are probably scum. The elim was quick, but I'm relatively sanguine(?) about it.
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Day-elimmed by majority - 4

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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:52 pm

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if it flips town, I guess I'll revisit some of my reads given wagon composition
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:55 pm

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did lunar claim something?

I do think Italiano quoting my post which was made before F1 as a pretext to hammer without claim is certainly a choice lol

I wanna say "hyperscummy" but I'll probably just revisit that read day 2

I think Gretchen's weird posturing around the hammer and the PoE there is also very scummy though
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:56 pm

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hmm I actually quite liked Gretchen's stuff of late. She's growing on me!
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:59 pm

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Yeah she has that effect on people

but putting you me + gamma in a PoE is probably three town which is below rand for her day 1

I'll hold off on saying whether the italiano read is good or bad after flip
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:04 pm

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unless you dead?
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:07 pm

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If I die tonight, then none of these people should be flipped tomorrow: Cookie Monster, esotericzoomer, Gamma Emerald, Funeral Goose, samantha97, Battle Mage
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:10 pm

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excellent, I'm going to NK you then :lol:
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:13 pm

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pretty surprised I woke up to a lynch but also glad this day didn't drag super long
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:14 pm

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hey samantha - can i count on your support tomorrow? ;)
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:14 pm

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you're a double voter for the game, so I have to

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