Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Alright, alright already, I’m pocketed. Sheesh!

[olaf]

i have found a new purpose in life

[Nancy Drew 39]

i have found a new purpose in life

This make the town stump very happy.

@as will I believe likely Italiano scum flip. but will wait for soul mason PB to bless this wagon that I feel very confident on this and I finally feel I’m playing town stump properly. Titus sounds really deflated, where as she seemed to be pretty gung ho on 5uffering. I can read her like a book.

[Sherlock and Watson]

Just casually observing that it is now page 180 and I patiently await Pink Ball's analysis <3

-S

[Nancy Drew 39]

Just casually observing that it is now page 180 and I patiently await Pink Ball's analysis <3

-S

It was really good to wait because I actually feel really good about this flipping scum. I hated the way I felt when BM was getting run up and when I feel good about a wagon, it’s usually a good sign. Titus’ reaction to Italiano as compared with 5uffering speaks volumes. She isn’t tired, she’s losing one of her babies.

But I think we can still afford to wait but I’m really excited because I feel pretty damn confident on this.

[ItalianoVD]

UNVOTE: ItalianoVD

[ItalianoVD]

I’d rather vote for scum

VOTE: SaraharaS

[Nancy Drew 39]

I’d rather vote for scum

VOTE: SaraharaS

Why is she scum? Not seeing it?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Actually Gamma calling someone an idiot for actually having valid reasons to fos on him is actually 100% nai. But if we keep leashing him to one specific slot and they don’t die, he’s probably town but I’ll think more on that. Just have very good reason not tr Gamma solely based off of toxic AtE. How he votes will be 100% more Ai than his over the top AtE.

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 2 . 24

• ItalianoVD
  ---------- 4 ( SaraharaS(36), Morty and Rick(139), Sherlock and Watson(194), Nancy Drew 39(466), Dunnstral(73) )
  F- 5
  
  
  5uffering
  ----------- 4 ( clidd(94), Gamma Emerald(172), 5uffering(174), War and Peace(39) )
  F- 5
  
  
  War and Peace
  ------- 1 ( Fey(3) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Morning Tweet
  ------- 1 ( Pink Ball(1) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Starcrossed
  --------- 1 ( olaf(158) )
  F- 8
  
  
  SaraharaS
  ----------- 1 ( ItalianoVD(68) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Pink Ball
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Gamma Emerald
  ------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Clidd
  --------------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Toogeloo
  ------------ 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Sherlock and Watson
  - 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Morty and Rick
  ------ 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Fey
  ----------------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Red Eye Knights
  ----- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Dunnstral
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Olaf
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ---------- 5 ( Morning Tweet(162), Starcrossed(69), Red Eye Knights(24), Toogeloo(37), Titus(147) )

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to Flip
Deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-28 00:01:00)

[Titus]

VOTE: Italiano

Let's go. Nancy repost your plan please.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Italiano

Let's go. Nancy repost your plan please.

I see what you’re doing now but I won’t be dissuaded. If this flips scum like I expect, this VC will be telling.

[Titus]

Every VC is telling.

If I don't persuade you, then repost your plan. Iron it out and end the day.

[SaraharaS]

Olaf -- pyro claimed we are a likely pick for scum and that's flattering, but i question that a bit. like, really? i don't think we have more of a chance than anyone else? also we have all been brushing over the fact i think pyro is the real top pick for scum!

you were townreading this slot before
what changed your mind?
is there any reason to scumread me other than thinking my predecessor is likely to be picked?
you've crossed your stars here

i don't have time right now to go back, could you point out where this happened? if i'm reading right then Star changed their thoughts on 'top picks'? i might be reading it wrong.

I just think 5suf has been performative to the point of creating and maintaining an image of how he wants others to see him, but not exactly looking for what works for him in the sense of scumhunting/townhunting. In other words, the way he acts, expresses himself and seems to try to create a connection with other people seems to me to be designed to achieve a certain goal and not spontaneous to help him solve the game. There is a lot of image maintenance that try to emulate a thought process that looks like town on the surface, but that internally looks fake/posed, almost like a wolf in sheep's clothing. I can be confbiasing because my mind keeps repeating that he is scum, but this is the way I see his slot rn.

Regarding Morty, for me he has only fluctuated during the entire game and I miss the more towny posture of Auro/Mastina. I was trying to ignore the slot for thinking they were masons, but if that is not the case, I believe there is a healthy chance that they are scum, although my SR in them is not that strong in context.

i agree with this

Anyway, to give a refresher on my reads

Locktown: Dunn, Batsu, Sherlock, Morty
Townread: Fey, Italiano, REK, W&P
Assumed town: Toog (idr where I got this vibe but I sensed a lot of people TRing him at some point which seems like in BTXV where he kinda became de facto town leader. That’s why I think 5uffering being scum conftown’s Toog, since that reaction is the same one I had in BTXV)
Feels town but could be scum: clidd
Was a townread but not so sure: Pyro/Olaf
TBD: Starcrossed (honestly probably town but I want to talk to Pooky at some point), Sahara
Was a scumread but not so sure: Saudade/PB
Scumread: 5uffering

That’s pretty much where I’m at

I had these a little bit ago, now I’d put it like

Locktown: Dunn, MT, Sherlock, Morty, olaf, Fey (half of the reason she’s locktown is for the night skip)
Townread: Italiano, W&P, Toog (recent play just straight up looks towny), PB
Want to engage with directly: Starcrossed (Pooky head specifically)
Want to be town but is probably scum: REK
Scumlean: Sahara
Scumread: 5uffering, clidd

I think I have 3-4 scum in my bottom 5 rn

the progression on me is really bad. it's based on my 'song lyrics conflicting with my perceived level of confidence.'... i don't know... is that logic is too bad to actually be scum?

smdh
I get mad because I care. I know it sucks but I’m NOT insensitive to your feelings!

Well it really does hurt me but if I dare even make the slightest hint to you along those lines, you will probably make some comment about it being a chore to play with me or something, so what would you honestly have me do? You really have absolutely no clue how deeply your words not just about Noraa but something else you said to me privately affected me. I was in tears in both cases, I just only told you about this. So thanks for forcing me to to broadcast my hurt feelings to everyone in the entire fucking MS community.

guys i'm... running low on these. i feel like i've needed to use a whole lot this game (but not been able to due to not being here .) reading 80 pages was a bit draining for more than just the amount of words (though mainly the amount of words).

Okay I am finally here now; sorry for the long, long, looooooooooooooooonggggg delay, but, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

I, uh. Don't think it's within my capabilities to read 174 pages.

Thank you Mastina.

Thank me after I catch scum, not before.

I have a pool of nine names, even if I was setup speccing correctly that's 5 too many.

I am very paranoid on Olaf. Maybe W & P should check Toog or Olaf? Starcrossed and/or REK is fine too.

Italiano can vanilaize Clidd, which should presumably confirm both as telling the truth about their roles? I think it’s possible that Italiano’s role is in lieu of a vig but we won’t know that before we mass claim.

Vig should probably be on Italiano because of his role.

vig on italiano is bad right? if we want to kill him then we'd do it when he can't potentially remove a power role (since we have claimed power roles) - alternatively could target scum so they can claim to have been targetted so they don't need to claim or something. it feels really dangerous to bring into night unless it's town

sherlock making some really good points
that tinfoil reason to think Saudade was town is good
also it sucks that this game is devolving into be toxic to be townlocked

i feel like a lot of it has to be fake which... really sucks
like 5uffering's rep there, some of Gamma's stuff recently, and Italiano's selfvoting thing all feel so AtEee and like... they're probably not all scum, but i def feel scum saw some stuff earlier like when we all started TRing Saudade (or i did at least) and decided they needed to get in on that...

I’d rather vote for scum

VOTE: SaraharaS

Why is she scum? Not seeing it?

i think there's a page on the wiki Italiano's been looking at: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... d_You_Suck

[Pink Ball]

Scum have emotions too

So you think Gamma could be scum doing this?

It's an alternative that I'm considering but I don't really care right now

[Pink Ball]

Ok, I'm off of work and fully focused on this, fucking finally!

My methodology for my magistral catch up: Out of the 15 alive players, 11 are town and 4 are scum; I'll get a minimum of 8 townreads, probably 9, give little to no explanation why they are town but you're very welcome to ask why they are town, and a minimum of 1

correct

scumread, probably just one 'cause I willl focus mainly in that scumread and give all the reasoning you will need to get why that slot is scum.

[clidd]

Toxicity is not beyond the reach of scum!Gamma, but I think it would be breaking limits if she behaved that way as scum.

The Italian AtE seemed towny to me, but he is not helping himself if he is town here.

The 5suf exit is potentially tactical, I didn't see a single emotional ping that I considered genuine in his last set of posts that justified a possible frustration for town!5suf.

[Pink Ball]

early pings are battle mage seems towny, even though i think i'm biased to townread his non-filtery style. ircher's first posts do feel a lil stilted + agree 82 says something and nothing in a scummy way. his following posts... i suppose his tone is throwing me off a bit, it's strange!

i haven't read everything, but ya sure VOTE: war and peace

~mitsuha

Off to a good start: Starcrossed is town

[Pink Ball]

Oh whoops wasn't supposed to quote that oh well there it is I read the entire ISO not that just single post I promise

[clidd]

Well.. We just need to wait for PB now.

They will have a solve.

pedit: lol

[Pink Ball]

Never thought I would say this with confidence but then again, I have gotten really good at this game: Dunnstral is town

[Pink Ball]

If both Fey and Batsunami are town, which there's a high chance of being the case, Pyro/olaf could be a great slot to start a scumcase

[Pink Ball]

Fey would be the purest nullread of all if it wasn't for the claim.

Fey I'm a little disappointed with you skipping the night because you wanted another day to play and not really doing a lot. Reading your ISO gives me a skim of what you think about some slots, but you focused on too few of them to be relevant. This day could've been a good chance to determine other slots, like Morty and Rick, Sherlock and Watson, Gamma, Sarah, clidd...

Maybe before accusing the game of stagnating, you could do us a favor and talk about those slots too?

[ItalianoVD]

I’d rather vote for scum

VOTE: SaraharaS

Why is she scum? Not seeing it?

Of course not, she’s in you blind spot.

[ItalianoVD]

i think there's a page on the wiki Italiano's been looking at: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... d_You_Suck

That’s cute. But I’m not voting you simply because you are voting me, I’m voting you because out of all the people in Nancy’s townbloc you are the least town to me. Personally I don’t feel your read on me I was reached honestly. You kinda picked a couple things out of my iso and scumread me for it instead of actually trying to sort me. You came in with preconceived notions and just sorta locked on with no indication you’d change.