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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:51 am

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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:52 am

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In post 609, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Well that was truly frustrating. I had made a rather detailed post, and somehow my browser decided to have some fun it and tossed it aside. Bah.

To quickly surmise, instead of being a proverbial jack hammer and hitting the same point repeatedly, perhaps acknowledge the answer, detail why it is no good, and ask for the detail you require, perhaps even acknowledging politely that it may be you will not get the answer you are looking for.

As for the role... For now I consider it mechanically confirmed. As an anti-town role and assuming a 2 person faction I would consider this to lower their power for this day phase by approximately 40% - unless that vote is placed upon a slot which has become a viable elimination for the day. As town, it does considerably less damage, I'd estimate around 8% of the towns power has been lost during this day phase.

Given the various claims that only anti-town need fear the game, I am slightly suspicious of the awareness of prizes. Tomorrow will provide more information as to the overall impact of the role on the game. Their dedication to it and perceived transparency so far I find to be town aligned. Their rating of my gif I find to be insulting, but fair.

For today, I would suggest leaving them be and watching them when we have a greater knowledge of their potential, and there are other slots worthy of prodding and poking.

I consider myself well versed in the mechanics and shenanigans of the theme queues. I must confess, I am far from what would be considered a good mafia player and my W/L ratio is abysmal. I do look forward to running game weird shenanigans once again... PenguinPower will be amused to learn I was around at the time of 2of4 newbie setups, and was in one of the initial games of that setup. I have taken a rather long break in the interim.

I mean, when I realises Nancy thought she wasn't answering the question I did explain what I wanted from an answer, but the issue is that after explaining what I was looking for, Nancy still thought she had answered the question meanwhile I thought she was continuing to ignore it which I think led me to explain it again?

You are wrong as it is a 3 person scumteam as per the opening posts. We also don't know whether there is more to S&M's role as the results of the competition could have further implications that are being held back, eg PenguinPower could now be being secretly tracked or something.
Disclaimer: I am not saying that S&M have actually held back information about their role. This is a possibility and nothing more.
In other words, there is potential for the role to have undisclosed scum power to it.

I feel like you might not be too well versed with the possible scope of theme games nowadays so it might be best if you don't base too much on spec
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:57 am

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In post 30, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 21, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:I actually had to check the thread to make sure this wasn’t the newbie queue.
Would you care to be my assistant IC this game? There are several newbies here and I would like to give them a good experience and a good education.
In post 356, PenguinPower wrote:Why would the king claim?
In post 493, PenguinPower wrote:No thoughts on anyone else in the game?

What’s the text supposed to be after the dash for the King?
In post 497, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 494, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Still trying to sort them out.

Just that he seems to be skating by on day 1 with a gimmick and seems to be trying to fly under the radar imho. Its a light scum lean
You realize post restriction may or may not be a thing?

That seems like a very weak reason to have someone at the bottom of your reads.
In post 498, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 495, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Mod confirmed our role was real.
Tbf - mod confirmed koalawang was real. We don’t actually know your role.

Anciliarry: do you have to follow my vote or are you stuck for the day on korina?
cherry picked obviously. The above posts are quite protown and that just doesn't feel like town penguin.

Going through penguins iso, what I've found is that in this game he has a lot of shitposts that seem more purposeful.
I'm not great at looking into shitposts but when the posts are like spread on in a way that they connect but are two different posts, that is generally purposeful.

So in penguin's town game he also shitposts but it doesn't feel purposeful with intent to shitpost. It feels natural and is just
there

but here it feels like he's trying to replicate his town game and knows there's a lot of shitposts so he's like throwing up shitposts everywhere.

he's asking occasionally towny questions to try to replicate a towny trying to advance game state but if you take a look at his posts in other games, he doesn't have these and his shitposts feel more relaxed and natural.

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shitpost vs shitpost analysis:
Town game:
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In post 36, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 17, Pine wrote:VOTE: Penguin

Clearly a bandit.
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In post 39, PenguinPower wrote:Penguins can't be doctors. Just fyi.

Brains are too small.
In post 40, PenguinPower wrote:Image

shit...
In post 43, PenguinPower wrote:VOTE: Bingle
In post 44, PenguinPower wrote:wait...wut?
In post 45, PenguinPower wrote:Where's Jingle?
In post 49, PenguinPower wrote:They can be worms but...

not real worms.
In post 53, PenguinPower wrote:Sorry - it's a habit
In post 58, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 54, Fun and Games wrote:I have townpings on Penguin and Gamma

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Conclusion: nothing is connected or forced is how I'm thinking about it

This game:
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In post 14, PenguinPower wrote:VOTE: mastina
In post 19, PenguinPower wrote:waaaaay too many koala gifs for my liking.

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In post 26, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 23, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 19, PenguinPower wrote:waaaaay too many koala gifs for my liking.

Image
this is unacceptable pengy
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In post 65, PenguinPower wrote:i don't like this game
In post 67, PenguinPower wrote:VOTE: korina
In post 69, PenguinPower wrote:oh

it's a real game
In post 184, PenguinPower wrote:Er - sorry. King.
In post 187, PenguinPower wrote:The king is smart.
In post 202, PenguinPower wrote:So hostile
In post 205, PenguinPower wrote:Uh oh, I’ve incurred the wrath


Another very noticeable difference is that penguin is very clearly replying to people more than he did in his first posts in the other game. As in DIRECTLY QUOTING which is like a clear "hello hello I am engaging YOU right now" whereas in the town game there was almost none of that at the beginning


He's missing some of his snarky personality here - its kinda dull here

Town game for reference:

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In post 53, PenguinPower wrote:Sorry - it's a habit
In post 58, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 54, Fun and Games wrote:I have townpings on Penguin and Gamma

~ Games
I do too!
In post 85, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 83, Bingle wrote:For someone who chose to explore: were you given a specific room you found?
Yes.
In post 83, Bingle wrote:I'm going to try to turbopocket PP this game to cut down on him paranoia sorting me as scum, so he's clearly town.
Success.
In post 161, PenguinPower wrote:I will also elim the poster above for no apparent reason.
In post 177, PenguinPower wrote:oooh - a pagetop competition

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In post 181, PenguinPower wrote:This is boring.

Create some wagons pls.
In post 183, PenguinPower wrote:I was speaking in general, not to you. Bingle should vote for the cake.
In post 184, PenguinPower wrote:If Bingle doesn't vote for the cake, he loses his current pocketing of me.
In post 203, PenguinPower wrote:I am disappointed in exactly three players.

Three.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:58 am

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Peguin is trying his ass off to shake me off by discrediting here. He's done it multiple times already...
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:00 am

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And I have a problem with him not thinking I'm scum because he and I have play style clash and given my super scummy claim, he for sure suspects me here if town
he's gonna reply and be like "yeah but ur town game sucks shit so I could see it"
but nah, that's not how play style clashes work.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:00 am

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:yawn:

because your tells are shit and i don't wish to get in a protracted 1 on 1 with you.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:05 am

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Even then, it would still be around a 27% impact in my estimations.

You say nowadays as though this isn't just an alternative account I'm using, and a character I am portraying to ensure no connection is made back.

I have been back on site for a while. :) I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:07 am

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Ah the Nora tunnel begins. Strap in fellows, this could be a shaky ride!
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:18 am

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In post 588, Raya36 wrote:
In post 532, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 529, Superb Subtlety wrote:Ask him what happens if you unvote
You’re right, I wouldn’t be modkilled, however my Koalawang role woud be cancelled.
Actually now I'm starting to doubt S&M. I don't believe this
The king doesn’t either
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:21 am

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VOTE: Penguin Power

Penguin is back on the menu for the King
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

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In post 631, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Even then, it would still be around a 27% impact in my estimations.

You say nowadays as though this isn't just an alternative account I'm using, and a character I am portraying to ensure no connection is made back.

I have been back on site for a while. :) I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
I said nowadays to avoid insulting you if you were an old player because old players have big egos
It was a more tactful way of me doubting your knowledge of the theme queue
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:52 am

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In post 634, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Penguin Power

Penguin is back on the menu for the King
remember when you asked me to answer a question i already answered? good times.

i'd like for you to answer one that you never did.
In post 379, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 245, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 182, WhemeStar wrote:King is wondering if anyone else has no reads like the king.

King is wondering who people scumread
In post 273, WhemeStar wrote:my townreads are scumreading Mastjna so I’m happy with this
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In post 388, PenguinPower wrote:who are your tr's btw?
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:59 am

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Phone posting

@Penguin
Wheme said he had no post restriction when i made my list


I want to go through the Subtle/ SAM discussion in depth more .Today is a busy day so i can not make any promise. I will do it by tommorow

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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:36 am

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In post 635, Superb Subtlety wrote:
In post 631, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:Even then, it would still be around a 27% impact in my estimations.

You say nowadays as though this isn't just an alternative account I'm using, and a character I am portraying to ensure no connection is made back.

I have been back on site for a while. :) I am fully aware it is far to early to begin clearing slots on mechanical information, I am aware there is possible drawbacks to create balancing. My own role allows some good shenanigans and I full expect there to be further shenanigans that interact with my role. My loyalty to my reads will be truly tested and tomorrow will bring forward an entirely different gamestate - barring "Koalawang" of course.
I said nowadays to avoid insulting you if you were an old player because old players have big egos
It was a more tactful way of me doubting your knowledge of the theme queue
It is appreciated. I never allowed the ego of my tweenage self to become overinflated. To be frank I was far to nervous and worried about offending people and being bad at the game. I would say I have matured, alas I have not. :mrgreen: The difference now is that I no longer care about being bad, provided I endeavour to make the best efforts I can, enjoy the game, and at least pretend to know what on earth I am doing while earnestly attempting to win.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:49 am

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In post 636, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 634, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Penguin Power

Penguin is back on the menu for the King
remember when you asked me to answer a question i already answered? good times.

i'd like for you to answer one that you never did.
In post 379, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 245, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 182, WhemeStar wrote:King is wondering if anyone else has no reads like the king.

King is wondering who people scumread
In post 273, WhemeStar wrote:my townreads are scumreading Mastjna so I’m happy with this
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In post 388, PenguinPower wrote:who are your tr's btw?
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:13 am

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King thinks Koala Wang is a scum role and can't get over that feeling.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:55 am

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In post 588, Raya36 wrote:
In post 532, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
In post 529, Superb Subtlety wrote:Ask him what happens if you unvote
You’re right, I wouldn’t be modkilled, however my Koalawang role woud be cancelled.
Actually now I'm starting to doubt S&M. I don't believe this
Ask Krazy. He obviously can’t confirm anything about my role to you but ask him what he does to players who ignore post restrictions. Hopefully that will put an end to this nonsense once and for all.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:14 am

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Yeah - what S&M said about the penalty for breaking post restrictions is accurate.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:21 pm

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In post 616, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 614, Noraabear wrote:pretty sure Penguin is scum for even producing content this early just saying.
Unless your name is skitteR, northsidegal, or cheekyteeky don't pretend you can read me.
my name is none of the above and i can read you like a book. you're probably town here because Noraa's meta is backwards - you post less as scum, not more.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:22 pm

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In post 628, Noraabear wrote:Peguin is trying his ass off to shake me off by discrediting here. He's done it multiple times already...
why is Penguin discrediting you scum-indicative? Spoiler: it's not
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:29 pm

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In post 627, Noraabear wrote:
In post 30, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 21, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:I actually had to check the thread to make sure this wasn’t the newbie queue.
Would you care to be my assistant IC this game? There are several newbies here and I would like to give them a good experience and a good education.
In post 356, PenguinPower wrote:Why would the king claim?
In post 493, PenguinPower wrote:No thoughts on anyone else in the game?

What’s the text supposed to be after the dash for the King?
In post 497, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 494, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Still trying to sort them out.

Just that he seems to be skating by on day 1 with a gimmick and seems to be trying to fly under the radar imho. Its a light scum lean
You realize post restriction may or may not be a thing?

That seems like a very weak reason to have someone at the bottom of your reads.
In post 498, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 495, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Mod confirmed our role was real.
Tbf - mod confirmed koalawang was real. We don’t actually know your role.

Anciliarry: do you have to follow my vote or are you stuck for the day on korina?
cherry picked obviously. The above posts are quite protown and that just doesn't feel like town penguin.
what? Penguin looks town so must be scum. gotcha
In post 627, Noraabear wrote: Going through penguins iso, what I've found is that in this game he has a lot of shitposts that seem more purposeful.
I'm not great at looking into shitposts but when the posts are like spread on in a way that they connect but are two different posts, that is generally purposeful.

So in penguin's town game he also shitposts but it doesn't feel purposeful with intent to shitpost. It feels natural and is just
there

but here it feels like he's trying to replicate his town game and knows there's a lot of shitposts so he's like throwing up shitposts everywhere.
ah, U-turn, so now Penguin's posting is not pro-town, it's just "shit"? how generous. but more importantly, since when did voting for someone because they are playing to their town-meta become a thing? baffling

I'd say all null and par for the course with noraa
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:31 pm

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can someone give me a list of claims and mech stuff? not my forte
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:33 pm

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In post 460, Korina wrote:so, question: why town godfather?

like, coroner for dog makes sense, since you bury a body in a hole, and dogs dig holes, so it'd make sense i'd dig up our last elim, but how does someone who appears innocent while being scum make sense for a snow leopard?
seems to make perfect sense to me flavour-wise. snow leopard - looks cute and cuddly, but liable to maim you without provocation. incredibly apt for noraa - was this pre-loaded?
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:34 pm

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tired, will get properly stuck in here tomorrow
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:41 pm

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In post 634, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Penguin Power

Penguin is back on the menu for the King
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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