Mini Theme 2194 : Draft Mafia | Endgame

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what does mastina being obvtown have to do with the fact that she hard townreads me and is not a threat to me in any way lol.

I never shoot somebody who hard townreads me, its completely counter to my wincon as scum.

[MathBlade]

what does mastina being obvtown have to do with the fact that she hard townreads me and is not a threat to me in any way lol.

I never shoot somebody who hard townreads me, its completely counter to my wincon as scum.

ObvTown by definition is a threat.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

people who want to vote you out are a threat.

people who are hardtownreading you are not a threat.

[MathBlade]

Then if you’re town, we fundamentally play differently. Locktown/ObvTown is much more a threat than someone scumreading me. The latter can be removed by play but the former is harder.

NPOM’s vote is ugly AF

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm talking about my scumplay

[MathBlade]

I have a work meeting and as am I

I am town but my scumplay is to generally remove cohesion rather than threats to me or myself. If town can’t coordinate it wouldn’t matter who scumread me (see Boonskiies)

But I think scum you kills Mastina here unless something really hinky is going on here

[NoPowerOverMe]

I trust mathblades obviousl reads as far as I can throw them.

[Gypyx]

Votecount 3.1

We brought pizza (1) BBmolla
Not_Mafia (0)
Mathblade (1) NoPowerOverMe
Toogeloo (0)
NoPowerOverMe (2) Shadowslug
Flea The Magician (0)
mastina (0)
BBmolla (1) Mastina
PookytheMagicalBear (0)
willow1 (0)
Shadowslug (0)

Not Voting (6) : We brought pizza - Not_Mafia - Toogeloo - PookytheMagicalBear - willow1 - Mathblade

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to anahilate someone, day 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2021-03-15 04:51:47)

[NoPowerOverMe]

@mod I am voting

[Gypyx]

fixed

[Gypyx]

Replacing willow1

[Toogeloo]

I'm waiting on mastina.

[Not_Mafia]

What takes effect first, the NK or the packs moving?

[Gypyx]

the nightkill

[mastina]

Fair warning: I REALLY don't feel like posting right now (I've been, for a while, rather badly depressed and it affects my motivation to play and the amount of effort that I put in), but given that I'll be V/LA this weekend for the sake of a different community, I kinda feel like I have to post here, so.

Btw I blocked Mastina last night as she had 0 votes on her and was scared of either her being a deep wolf or the night kill. I don’t think Mastina actually does the kill here so gonna lock her in as town since her reaction was good.

Jailkept* lmao

lol i also protected mastina

Well that means I'm pretty much conftown.

Given that scum killed me last night, I wonder who that makes be scum?

Who was I pushing yesterday?

Subjectively, {BBMolla, Flea, Pizza, Not_Mafia, Gamma}.
Again I'd like to stress that I prefer voting Molla, for good reason.

(So it's not Flea and not Gamma who is now MathBlade but that leaves you three possible names with three scum slots. This notably doesn't mean that all three are scum, it's possible only 1-2 are scum, but if I was the nightkill it's guaranteed there WAS scum in there.)

Given this info, Molla should be our elimination today because who else would want me dead?
Pizza wouldn't want me dead since I was one of their main defenders.
Not_Mafia wouldn't want me dead because I was one of his main defenders.

BBMolla is literally the only slot who has reason to want me dead, so with me being basically confirmed as the nightkill last night, that means Molla is basically confscum.

[mastina]

Mastina also confirmed what I did pass her which is a bodyguard. (Or if it upgraded something better)

Not a bodyguard, a different protection, but also not a 1/2x doctor, either.

There is more than one gift giving role?

I can say I started with an inventor role. I did not use it on N1 so it was passed along.

So I repeat my statement; there are in fact multiple, incredibly similar if not identical, overlapping roles.

Pooky is town. I used a 1-shot Cop ability on him night 1. He should have gotten a gift from me last night with one of the inventor powers I picked up on Night 2.

Incredibly useful result to have.
OBJECTIVELY CLEAR OR CLOSE TO:
{Pooky, mastina}
HAS AN INCREDIBLY TOWN CLAIM:
{Mathblade, Toogeloo} (Toog would almost certainly have no reason to claim a cop clear on Pooky here if Toog were scum)
HAS A CLAIM LOOSELY LOOKING TOWN:
{willow1}
OBJECTIVE REMAINDER:
{We brought pizza, Not_Mafia, NoPowerOverMe, BBMolla, shadowslug}
In those 5 names, there's three scum.

Subjectively I feel like shadowslug is more likely to be town.
Subjectively, I feel like {Not_Mafia, NPOM} are not scumbuddies due to their D2 interactions.

I'm not absolutely sure Pizza is scum here via the poe, but I AM fairly confident that Molla and NPOM are scum here, especially Molla.

I'm not seeing the mastina love tbh. She seems edgy to me.

This looks like scum trying to make up for the failed nightkill btw.

[MathBlade]

Calming down I disagree with some of Mastina’s Toog has no reason to do that posts but I also kinda see I am getting a bit moonlogicky and will need to make a case there and if I can’t I am probably tunnelled.

Mechanically though I just don’t see 2 inventors and 2 protectives going off. That just doesn’t sit right.

For now going to go where I agree with Mastina

VOTE: NPOM

[NoPowerOverMe]

Mastina isn't conftown.

The possibility exists that MathBlocked mastina's kill and Pooky is lying about doctoring Mastina.

I'd say town!mastina is a strong possibility though.

[MathBlade]

Mastina isn't conftown.

The possibility exists that MathBlocked mastina's kill and Pooky is lying about doctoring Mastina.

I'd say town!mastina is a strong possibility though.

Then you’re voting me because?

If you’re thinking I am town and Pooky is lying voting Pooky makes sense
If you think I am scum, then me blocking my own kill makes no sense

Kinda starting to think Mastina’s right here and you’re just full of shit when I quit tunnelling Pooky

[MathBlade]

Then if you flip scum if I die, Mastina can look into the whole two inventors bit which I doubt is accurate.

If Mastina dies then Pooky has a reprieve until and unless I can prove my theory but it’s still gnawing at me.

I figure whoever gave the second invention of it exists can say they did and not say what then Pooky would be almost certainly town and it would be a comedy of coincidences.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't believe you still think I'm scum after Tooges already claimed a cop check on me

how tunneled can you be dude

@Mastina hope you feel better dear!

[MathBlade]

I can't believe you still think I'm scum after Tooges already claimed a cop check on me

how tunneled can you be dude

@Mastina hope you feel better dear!

He did, I just think there’s shenanigans and if I am wrong and there is a second inventor that fired tonight I will back off and we can elim NPOM and be on our merry way.

The number one rule though when mechanical claims don’t line up is you don’t trust prior mechanics either. You start from what you know:

I know I jailkept Mastina.
I know your passing on shots of doctor is shit.
We know there are too many inventions.

If you’re town, then you know either Toog is a scum inventor or scum!inventor gave invention to BBMolla
If you’re scum then we know bus driver or redirector exists and/or Toog is full of shit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why would scum even bus driver me on night 1 lolol

[MathBlade]

why would scum even bus driver me on night 1 lolol

Don’t know that yet.

I start where the evidence is and then figure reads around it.

Asking the why when we don’t know the what is weird.

Could be redirector or Godfather or Toog crumbed so you did something.

I am not sure of that but I really would like to have this resolved with facts rather than guessing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

toog crumbed an investigation of me on d1 and I saw it?

thats your explanation lol?

im not asking you for guesses

im asking if you can even plausibly come up with a scenario in which scum me psychically figures out town!tooge is going to invest me and I bus drive myself to avoid it