Mafia 83 - Game Ended Scum Win!

[Jebus]

And I never voted myself :s

[Yaw]

Yeah, that looked weird when I saw it a second time. I just saw it was at 5 with two votes not counted first time around. Better to be safe.

Ok, so lynch-2, I think. Start defending.

[MafiaSSK]

The votecount has been fixed

[Yaw]

Mod:

Out of curiosity, who is being replaced? Might be relevant, in case it takes a while to fill the spot. Thanks.

[MafiaSSK]

Mod:

Out of curiosity, who is being replaced? Might be relevant, in case it takes a while to fill the spot. Thanks.

Reclusion

[qwints]

I third or fourth the request for a Jebus claim.

[alvinz95]

Ugh, crap internet. 12 am now so post tomorrow if the internet works. Stupid comcast

[Battle Mage]

claim. now.

BM

[qwints]

Still waiting on a Jebus role claim...

[Jebus]

What's the use in claiming in a normal game when the votes are on me?

Option 1: I claim townie. I still get lynched.
Option 2: I claim a power role (Doc/Cop). There's some hesitation, I still get lynched.

But since you seem to insist, I claim Doc.

[qwints]

unvote

Jebus, I don't like your predicative play if you are a doc, but I'll respect the claim for now. I also would like to advise against any doc counter-claiming at this point. I think we need to leave Jebus around for a day or two at least.

[hasdgfas]

unvote

for now and

vote:alvinz

[Yaw]

Unvote

. Reread coming.

[iamausername]

Option 1: I claim townie. I still get lynched.

If you were a doctor, how would this be an option? Why would you even be thinking about "options" for claiming?

I know that, as a general rule, you don't lynch claimed docs on D1, but I really want to make an exception here.

[Battle Mage]

My vote stands. If you were a Doc, and you were forced to claim, getting lynched would be your LAST worry. Why do you not think you will get NKed?

I think it's more likely you are a townie than a Doc. And more likely you are scum than a townie.

BM

[Xtoxm]

Uhh..Hi guys. Post.

Got internet at uni now, so hopefully should be able to start playing properly again!

Still V/LA officially for now.

[Mana_Ku]

I also am against lynching a claimed power role, but I won't change my opinion about that like some other players.

I won't give it, but I can understand why Jebus isn't worrying about him being a NK right now.

BTW Happy B-day BM and a happy welcome back to Xtoxm although he's still officially V/LA

[Yaw]

Rereading Thoughts:

alvinz95 -- Still way under what I'd expect for participation, both in terms of number of posts and content. I can wait for that big post we're promised today, but there had better be something good in there.

BM -- Frenetic, but I've heard that's normal. Has good content, though. That said, do I have to explain why lynching a claimed doc on day 1 isn't a good idea? I think Jebus's logic and play so far have been absolutely scummy as well, but surely waiting for tomorrow on this one can only help. Oh, and I still don't have a clue what the hell he saw in that post that in any way implicated Cow.

chaz -- No objections to his logic or posting amounts so far, but he doesn't vote. At all. That kind of extreme hesitation worries me -- it shows me he's not willing to put his money where his mouth is.

cow -- Lots of posts. All but one are one-liners. Really unfairly targeted by Jebus and Netman. Doesn't mean he isn't scum, but solidifying the alignment of one of the other two would make that a lot clearer.

iam -- Posting's a bit on the low side, but was one of the first people on Jebus for contradictory statements. Don't like that he's willing to lynch a claimed doc day 1, but he at least provides a rationale for it.

Jebus -- I think the issues here are pretty much established. While I know I've been saying you don't lynch a claimed doc day 1, if absolutely necessary to get a lynch before deadline I'd support it. Lynch is better than no lynch, and that claim was just fishy enough that I could see a viable rationale for it. I'd rather look elsewhere at the moment, though.

killa seven -- 6 posts total. No content. I see what people mean about chronic lurking, because this is ridiculous. Either scum for lurking, or deserves to be lynched mercilessly until he decides to actually play the games he signs up for.

Mana_Ku -- Lots of positive, fawning posts about other players that are really raising my scumdar right now. Problem is, there are so many possible connections I'm not sure where to begin on who she might be scum with.

Gnome -- Also a poor vote count. Same as killa seven, but with admittedly more content. Which makes post 109 suitably ironic. I think I'd go for killa seven over him as I know Gnome's at least capable of better...though on the other hand that makes his lack of participation worse.

Netman -- Really bad logic overall. Admits he's way more concerned with the optics of how he looks to the town than in finding scum. Has gone back to lurking once the pressure left him and went to Jebus (no posts in this game since Tuesday).

Tovarish/qwints -- Nothing from the former. The latter hasn't been great either, but has had a lot less of the game to post in. Lots of one-liners, so I'd really like to see more content to be able to judge anything.

Reclusion -- Really do not want to see her replaced. She's been contributing in really positive ways. Comes off as pro-town to me so far.

Xtoxm -- Lots of posts, but not much content. A lot of one-liners. Tried to push suspicion on Cow twice with no reasoning. Unwilling to back it up with a vote. (Still, even if he were at the top of my list, I don't think it's fair to run up a bandwagon on someone who's V/LA with an upcoming deadline.)

So, lots to choose from. I think Netman has the big trifecta of scumminess, though.

Vote: Netman

[Jebus]

Option 1: I claim townie. I still get lynched.

If you were a doctor, how would this be an option? Why would you even be thinking about "options" for claiming?

I know that, as a general rule, you don't lynch claimed docs on D1, but I really want to make an exception here.

It'd be an option so that I'm not a night-kill target, though it leaves me more likely to get lynched.

And I'm not worried about being night-killed because I can protect myself.

[qwints]

?? Since when can a doc self-protect?

[Yaw]

*ears perk* Well,

that's

not standard. Count me in as someone who wants an explanation.

[hasdgfas]

Option 1: I claim townie. I still get lynched.

If you were a doctor, how would this be an option? Why would you even be thinking about "options" for claiming?

I know that, as a general rule, you don't lynch claimed docs on D1, but I really want to make an exception here.

It'd be an option so that I'm not a night-kill target, though it leaves me more likely to get lynched.

And I'm not worried about being night-killed because I can protect myself.

Oh, really? Please, go on. Is there an explanation behind how or why you can self-protect?

[Xtoxm]

I don't think it's fair to run up a bandwagon on someone who's V/LA with an upcoming deadline

LOL I couldn't disagree more!!! But yeh you rock.

Self protecting doctor...? Heh.

Try to check stuffs proply in the morning...

[Jebus]

I assume I can, my role PM doesn't say I can't...

If it's not standard, then I guess that's how I'm used to having that played.

Asking MafiaSSK for clarification on that...

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

I honestly can't recall ever seeing a self protecting doc in any game I've ever been in, so I'd say it's definitely a non-standard role, if that's what you actually are.