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[PawnsGambit]

If you're voting me and not voting robert then you're defending robert.

[Save The Dragons]

If you're voting me and not voting robert then you're defending robert.

oh honey

[InsidiousLemons]

not asking you to have hard reads, asking you to back up the claims you've already made.

if you'd like to talk about robert as well, go ahead. i'm all ears

p-edit i am actually defending everyone im not voting. i think everyone is town except the person im currently voting, at all times

[InsidiousLemons]

If you're voting me and not voting robert then you're defending robert.

also kind of scummy to miss the daddy on pagetop imo :/

[Save The Dragons]

who is defending robert, can you elaborate? this is the second time you mentioned it and i'm having trouble finding it

can you take another shot at this question

[PawnsGambit]

not asking you to have hard reads, asking you to back up the claims you've already made.

if you'd like to talk about robert as well, go ahead. i'm all ears

p-edit i am actually defending everyone im not voting. i think everyone is town except the person im currently voting, at all times

This is a pretty stupid approach to mafia.

I've already made my case on robert.

[Robert M Hunter]

@robert how serious was your readlist? what do you hope to gain by not voting? also, you're sort of automatically subscribed to any topic you've posted in. you can click "view your posts" in the top left to keep tabs on which threads have new posts (coloured icons instead of greyed-out ones). there's a more specific "subscribe topic" function which i believe gives you emails, that you can find at the bottom left of the page.

Sorry I was so excited about the last part that I forgot the questions.

My reads are dead serious pre-page 12 reads. I haven't decided who to vote for yet.

[Robert M Hunter]

But it's a little concerning how heavily Robert is being defended.

Who is defending me?

Are you condemning me for not being a die hard on day 1?

[InsidiousLemons]

have you caught up to page 18 yet? if so i think you have more than enough to go on to at least vote for someone. you must think at least one of the other 12 players in this game is sus enough to at least pressure, no? c'mon, it's not gonna kill anyone

[PawnsGambit]

But it's a little concerning how heavily Robert is being defended.

Who is defending me?

Are you condemning me for not being a die hard on day 1?

Immediately after I suggested your entrance was scummy there was an immediate backlash. It's called reading the room.

[InsidiousLemons]

not asking you to have hard reads, asking you to back up the claims you've already made.

if you'd like to talk about robert as well, go ahead. i'm all ears

p-edit i am actually defending everyone im not voting. i think everyone is town except the person im currently voting, at all times

This is a pretty stupid approach to mafia.

great point, hadnt thought of that

[Save The Dragons]

But it's a little concerning how heavily Robert is being defended.

Who is defending me?

Are you condemning me for not being a die hard on day 1?

Immediately after I suggested your entrance was scummy there was an immediate backlash. It's called reading the room.

get your hands dirty

name names

[Robert M Hunter]

I am caught up, I read regularly even though sometimes I do not post.

It's entirely my fault, but I have yet to interact with players directly, which is my favored method for evaluating alignments.

Did I miss a

GLADIATE: Bob Hunter

somewhere in Pawn's iso?

[PawnsGambit]

I am not impressed with RMHs entrance as there are an overabundance of scumreads.

I am not impressed with RMHs entrance as there are an overabundance of scumreads.

I mean, he scumread me for a meme vote on the first page of the game... something feels off abot him. I get he just subbed in, but like, being overly critical of posts this early?? it's like he's trying to find the easiest pushes tbh

getting bad vibes from Andante

VOTE: Andante

for the Robert reaction

VOTE: PawnsGambit

let's try it

I'm going to focus here tomorrow with some read updates.

PawnsGambit deserves some pressure here.
Out right refusing to discuss reads and now just ignoring posts to them.
Adding nothing and apparently getting away with doing so?

VOTE: PawnsGambit

New player trying to stay close and call their scum buddy Osuka town the whole time, following in the footsteps, or just trying to buddy to a town Osuka thinking this will protect them?
Regardless attention should be here.

Do you know that osuka is town, by any chance? If so, please let us all know, this would be very useful information.

speaking of useful information, please answer my questions in 405. dodging good faith questions about your reads does not make me confident that you're actively invested in finding scum.

I'm not refusing to discuss reads. I'm merely saying that they are light reads at this point in the game and not to be blown out of proportion.

There would have to be something that makes you think "Oh, Osuka is scum hunting". What is it?

[...]

So to re ask my question and make it clear, at what post did you feel Osuka was scum hunting?

I can tell Osuka is trying to sort people by conversing with a wide variety of players. This to me is genuine scum hunting.

pawniard yet again dodging a point-blank question with a one-line post devoid of any substance. i've been reading osuka as town as well, but your inability to point to any concrete reasons or posts that make you believe so beyond "he talks to a lot of people" is very troubling. a majority of your posts are less than half a line long. you're either town who's too lazy to play the game, or scum who's to lazy to pretend to.

VOTE: PawnsGambit

[Save The Dragons]

why aren't you voting robert?

[PawnsGambit]

Because I think VFP is also scum.

[Save The Dragons]

and me and lemons?

[PawnsGambit]

Lemons more so than you. My solve right now would be Robert-VFP-Lemons

[PawnsGambit]

But there's a small sample size of interactions to base the actual solve upon.

[InsidiousLemons]

438 in a nutshell:
> pawns claims "immediate backlash" upon suggesting robert's entrance was scummy
> asked to post evidence of people defending robert
> the only example of "immediate backlash" included is savethedragons calling andante sus
> also includes green crayons voting for andante 2 pages later without saying anything about robert as a player
> also includes me pressuring robert, for some reason

???

[PawnsGambit]

the backlash is wagoning me rather than wagoning robert.

[InsidiousLemons]

if you're so upset about no robert wagon then why have you never voted robert nor suggested anyone else do it?

[PawnsGambit]

I'm not upset about it. I'm just noting the game dynamics.

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: Andresvmb

i think you should change your definition of the word defending tho

[Robert M Hunter]

Serious question though, why is Osuka trying to control the game?

When I read this, my mind immediately jumped to the possibility of

Andante

-scum being salty about osuka controlling the game. My scum read on this player slot remains unchanged.

Upon seeing more

Anya

posts, I am less confident in my earlier town read; her iso feels like someone spinning her heels.

I still very much like

Asteria

's pointed and fearless presence.

Green Crayons

' posting is opaque to me, for lack of a better word. I would say... it feels like there's an agenda somewhere, but it's being hidden, resulting in voids in the flow of ideas. How poetic was that?

Haschel

is still pretty bad, with the lurking and the no-follow-up idle questions. Along with

Andante

, a top scum read.

I do like

Insidious Lemons

' boldness but there is a case to be made that he could be scum going after the low-hanging fruit. I am not comfortable reading this slot today.

I am so entertained by

osuka

's posts that I would resist voting him even if he confessed.

Surprise, I'm (cautiously still) moving

Pawn

out of the litter box into the kitten drawer. I see a whole lot of attention-grabbing terrible logic and cornered animal lashing out. His bad pushes get backlash but he doubles down like a townie instead of letting go like a good little scum.

Salsabil Faria.

I have formed an opinion on this player slot but it could be the kind of reason that will get me modkilled.

I've grown to like

Save The Dragons

as town so I will move this player from "ambiguous" to "kitten."

My town read of

VFB

is unchanged.

KITTENS
Robert M Hunter MaxTheFox
osuka
Asteria
Anya
VFP
PawnsGambit
Save The Dragons

AMBIGUOUS
InsidiousLemons

SCUMMY RODENTS
Andante
Andresvmb
Haschel Cedricson
Salsabil Faria
Green Crayons