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[OkaPoka]

Official Vote Count 1.09

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to end day early.

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Anya

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Dunnstral, Isis, Emily, Morning Tweet, Ydrasse, Infinity 324, Chromium, srckz

Deadline:

(expired on 2021-05-22 02:53:06)

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[Infinity 324]

If the Guillotine responsibility holder dies overnight, what happens? Does it just make this another day with no execution?

Well in that case, great, scum killed the player we wanted to elim anyway

[unwnd]

But why is unwnd talking mechanics he didn't do in Fortress I thought he hated them

It's because it's necessary especially when I disagree in how they're being used.

@Mod

Is the guillotine holder announced as well?

[srckz]

But why is unwnd talking mechanics he didn't do in Fortress I thought he hated them

It's because it's necessary especially when I disagree in how they're being used.

@Mod

Is the guillotine holder announced as well?

Fixed

[OkaPoka]

But why is unwnd talking mechanics he didn't do in Fortress I thought he hated them

It's because it's necessary especially when I disagree in how they're being used.

@Mod

Is the guillotine holder announced as well?

Let me know if this answers the question I am not exactly sure what you mean. If you mean "does whoever prep the guillotine get publicly confirmed in this thread by OkaPoka as prepping the guillotine?", then no.

[Dunnstral]

Why not just let people compulsory decide if they're going to the dungeon? Or set up a plan that we could somehow reach the cop incentive before scum kill us off. You're the one with numbers.

The plan for us to get the cop is the plan where we abandon the tracker and level up instead in hopes of getting the other rewards

The other plan is that we instead use the dungeon to take advantage of the 'no multitasking' rule to try to get two scum in the dungeon/guillotine, but even if only one scum is in the dungeon/guillotine there's still an unspoken second phase to this plan

I don't see how letting people decide where they want to go is a better idea than assigning people locations, it seems worse because then there's no chance of both scum being in the same area, and sure, we can read into that, but it's more reliable to have mechanical data that says two people can't be scum together

[srckz]

If the Guillotine responsibility holder dies overnight, what happens? Does it just make this another day with no execution?

Well in that case, great, scum killed the player we wanted to elim anyway

Why don't we just

Eliminate the player we want to eliminate? If you give scum a hashed out plan against them all they're going to do is play along nicely or find ways to go around it. Town can only vote and maybe get a PR. Scum just kills problems and then your idea of 'well great scum killed the player we wanted to elim anyways' then that's one less town player who could level and potentially get something useful like a cop.

[srckz]

But why is unwnd talking mechanics he didn't do in Fortress I thought he hated them

It's because it's necessary especially when I disagree in how they're being used.

@Mod

Is the guillotine holder announced as well?

Let me know if this answers the question I am not exactly sure what you mean. If you mean "does whoever prep the guillotine get publicly confirmed in this thread by OkaPoka as prepping the guillotine?", then no.

That answered it, thanks

[Dunnstral]

But why is unwnd talking mechanics he didn't do in Fortress I thought he hated them

It's because it's necessary especially when I disagree in how they're being used.

@Mod

Is the guillotine holder announced as well?

What gets announced is whether the guillotine is prepped or not.

The only way the guillotine fails is if the person assigned to prep it just doesn't do so, and then everybody will know

[Infinity 324]

We can only eliminate the player we wanted to eliminate if we prep the guillotine, and if we don't discuss it in thread there's this weird guessing game where we will probably end up with too few or too many players on guillo

It's one less town player whether we eliminate them or scum kills them

[srckz]

Why not just let people compulsory decide if they're going to the dungeon? Or set up a plan that we could somehow reach the cop incentive before scum kill us off. You're the one with numbers.

The plan for us to get the cop is the plan where we abandon the tracker and level up instead in hopes of getting the other rewards

The other plan is that we instead use the dungeon to take advantage of the 'no multitasking' rule to try to get two scum in the dungeon/guillotine, but even if only one scum is in the dungeon/guillotine there's still an unspoken second phase to this plan

I don't see how letting people decide where they want to go is a better idea than assigning people locations, it seems worse because then there's no chance of both scum being in the same area, and sure, we can read into that, but it's more reliable to have mechanical data that says two people can't be scum together

Let's do that then? Everyone just keep leveling up until cop comes around and then we all throw ourselves at the dungeon. Anyone who doesn't agree is scum-claiming. Hell, even force scum to do it as long as we still have numbers.

Alternatively, initial thought was that we could all dungeon tonight and make sure scum

can't

level up. I think the first solution is probably apt though and agree with Isis that Tracker is kinda shit

[srckz]

I think Guillotine should be a volunteer service, not forced

Town might be pissy about it, but scum will be extra pissy

Tweetie has already volunteered and is scumread by a good degree, why not let her?

[srckz]

If she is just saying that as a feint to seem townie

Then if the guillotine isn't prepped we know

Furthermore, if Tweetie dies after claiming she'll do it

We also know

[Infinity 324]

I agree with sending tweet for different reasons

I'd rather force scum to guillo than give them a choice between being pissy and doing the guillo

[srckz]

You know I just thought about it

Why not force the two scummiest players to go the dungeon

They literally cannot multitask, meaning they can't kill and do dungeon stuff right?

[srckz]

So what they get a tracker what are they going to track air

Nobody has PRs

[Infinity 324]

Well they're still more likely town than not, so it's not hugely +EV. I do think the scummy players should be concentrated in the guillo/dungeon if we decide to do a dungeon.

[srckz]

You could even still make 'the person we want to eliminate' at guillotine

That's 3 people forced into inaction

5 townies leveling at a rate of 1. Let's assume scum kills one of the townies

N1: 1+1+1+1+1 = 5
N2: 2+2+2+2 = 8 (More than enough already for the watcher and cop lmao)
N3: 3+3+3 = 9 (Game goes nightless amazing)

[srckz]

Oka didn't really think about if town were to just powergrind and then mechanically force scum into their own death imo

Scummiest people should go to the dungeon tonight, if they survive big whoop they got a tracker
Towniest people should be leveling

[Infinity 324]

5 townies leveling at a rate of 1

I mean this is obviously the ideal scenario but on average there will be 1 scum in this group

[srckz]

As long as we have numbers if we ever decide to go for cop

RNG will favor us, given that it's dicerolled who gets it

[srckz]

@Mod Can scum go to a dungeon and factional kill at the same time?

[OkaPoka]

@Mod Can scum go to a dungeon and factional kill at the same time?

No, one cannot perform two night actions in one night.

[srckz]

There's your answer!!!

[srckz]

Huge brain unwnd breaks the setup and forces scum to either die or give up NKs