Micro 1009: Would You Like To Be My Neighbor? [Game Over!]

[Loki Dokie]

Alright, I’m starting to have doubts but it’s mainly on who I think you are and if I’m right, I don’t know why I’m not dead but I want to see how Hopkirk reacts to all of this because if you are who I think you are, you aren’t capable of this kind of emotional range as scum.

[Loki Dokie]

are you trying to justify to me so that post game I won't blame you for being wrong?

The more you try to guiltrip me and manipulate me, the more I’m convinced it’s you.

I think there's nothing I can say to you that would convince you it's not me.

You are an extremely ego-centric person who can't fathom being wrong so any logic, reasoning, or emotional appeal I make to you will just simply be discarded and only convince you further that you are right and I am scum.

You thought you were right in Menagerie even after the cards were flipped and you were shown to be completely wrong about who the scum was.

I'm sure even after this game is over and I am flipped as town you will continue to blame me for this.

That's fine and I don't really care.

I really hate that this is influencing my read on you at all but you sound extremely fake as scum and this doesn’t sound fake.

If I vote wrong, the entire dead thread will be yelling at me.

[Loki Dokie]

It majorly sucks that of the three scummiest players in the game, two were town. :/

[Hopkirk]

I don't feel the need to put the work in to convince either of you of something neither of you wants to believe.

It would be a waste of my time.

If you've decided to kill me, just do it.

so one of you is snowed and the other one is scum.

I won't bother to figure out which one because there's a good chance you both just vote me here.

If you want an actual discussion I'll be happy to entertain you both but as it stands I think town just loses this.

I have one small request however.

If you are town in the neighbor pair.

Let the mafia player vote first.

Here’s what I think. If I vote you, you will try to pocket Hopkirk and convince him I’m scum and the same to me, should he be the one to place the first vote.


I want reads on both me and Hopkirk. Go.

You're probably the townie here because you sound exactly like the way you sounded when you were stubbornly wrong at the end of Menagarie and he's probably scum because he only posted one sentence.

I don’t think he can fake being as genuine as he’s been. It’s extremely difficult to fake being townie for this long without slipping. I think I should have seen at least something off about him by now if he was actually pocketing me but you’re so far not differentiating between us because you don’t want to risk alienating either of us.

?

I already said I think you are the pocketed stubborn townie.

I don't buy this progression on 'i have no idea' to 'i've thought you were the town in the pair from the start'

-missing the quote here where she mentions her TR in you yesterday

Tell me why you think he’s scum here

Well there's 2 of you and one of you is scum.

You sound like a really stubbornly pocketed townie who really believes in what he's saying and can't possibly believe he is wrong.



He came in and posted a one liner about being drunk and then ghosted the thread.



So I don't see how that's a hard choice for me which one I believe is the townie?

(The last quote might have gotten messed up because phoneposting and trying to move quotes around failed)

You're aware what my timezone is, that I work, and that I'm typically going to sleep at or before 12. I also posted like half an hour before I went to sleep and you didn't react so don't act like you were sitting there waiting to interact with me. 'I think you're town because you're posting during the hours I'm aware hopkirk sleeps and he isn't' isn't genuine

[Hopkirk]

I've posted some stuff in the hood where Emily's main posts similar emotional stuff sounding genuine as scum (in the only time I've seen Emily!scum). Can redact those post game if you want Emily?

I think any kill Emily makes here has the same bad endgame for her. Killing me or Loki = in a final 3 with vanders who has just said they're 100% voting her + either me or Loki who both TR Vanders (with me going out of my way to look for meta to help sort Vanders then abandoning a SR on them I don't think she thinks I change my read there). Any lylo has to be a wifom play, which is what she's doing here, and this is the most wifom endgame if she wants someone to reconsider (Loki/Vanders/Emily is possibly winnable without wifom but I think always comes out in an Emily lethal)

I remain virtually lockdown on Loki.

VOTE: Emily

[Emily]

VOTE: hopkirk

good luck loki

i promise not to blame you post game even if you make a mistake.

[Emily]

you posted a one liner about being drunk hopkirk

its classic scum that doesnt want to disturb game state antispew

[Emily]

I don't buy this progression on 'i have no idea' to 'i've thought you were the town in the pair from the start'

the more i talk to loki the more genuine he feels.

I was leaning towards him being town from the start, but I have no reason not to give both of you a clean slate at lylo. it would be unfair to the rest of the game to not approach endgame with an open mind.

[Emily]

It majorly sucks that of the three scummiest players in the game, two were town. :/

think about what a scum needs to do to win

they need to be townie, pocket a townie, get to the endgame

who fits that description?

Do you think I came into endgame with any prep whatsoever? I replace into this game and lol-hammer my own teammate before 24 hours has passed? like come on nothing I have done makes any sense if I am scum.

[DkKoba]

Vote Count 4.1

Hopkirk

(1): Emily

Emily

(1): Hopkirk

Not Voting

(1): Loki Dokie

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to eliminate.

Day 4

ends in (expired on 2021-06-03 17:49:21)

Mod notes:

Final day!

[Loki Dokie]

I've posted some stuff in the hood where Emily's main posts similar emotional stuff sounding genuine as scum (in the only time I've seen Emily!scum). Can redact those post game if you want Emily?

I think any kill Emily makes here has the same bad endgame for her. Killing me or Loki = in a final 3 with vanders who has just said they're 100% voting her + either me or Loki who both TR Vanders (with me going out of my way to look for meta to help sort Vanders then abandoning a SR on them I don't think she thinks I change my read there). Any lylo has to be a wifom play, which is what she's doing here, and this is the most wifom endgame if she wants someone to reconsider (Loki/Vanders/Emily is possibly winnable without wifom but I think always comes out in an Emily lethal)

I remain virtually lockdown on Loki.

VOTE: Emily

But all of those posts are based on your contention that Emily is Pooky and I know she isn’t.

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: hopkirk

good luck loki

i promise not to blame you post game even if you make a mistake.

Hopkirk has made an entire case in our PT why Pooky is scum but I know that’s not the case, so I’m sorry you put all that work into meatcasing Pooky but Emily isn’t him.

[Hopkirk]

might as well ask Emily to confirm if it's Pooky since you've mentioned it in the main thread

most of what i mentioned still applies. only stuff reliant on it being Pooky is the meta that the ATE stuff wasn't outside their scummeta

[Loki Dokie]

Pooky would never call me or anyone else for that matter, an “ego-centric person”. Pooky regardless of alignment would stick to the perceived flaws in my reasoning. Pooky has an extremely unique playstyle and I think I would immediately recognize it.

[Hopkirk]

can you say who you think or know it is in the QT?

[Hopkirk]

i am not allowed to explain why= pooky but i guess see if denied or not

[Loki Dokie]

might as well ask Emily to confirm if it's Pooky since you've mentioned it in the main thread

most of what i mentioned still applies. only stuff reliant on it being Pooky is the meta that the ATE stuff wasn't outside their scummeta

A metacase on a player not in this game isn’t really useful, especially when I have seen zero evidence that he even has a single alt.

If Pooky were Emily and scum, I’m very sure I would be dead not Vanders because from Emily’s pov if scum, killing Vanders over either of us is seriously bad play because we’ve been both been hard tr each other the entire game. Don’t you think she’d have a much better chance trying to convince either of us it’s Vanders?

It just seems way too easy if she’s scum here and if I hard tr you the entire game, why not bus Flow?

You also express extreme dissatisfaction with this game but you also hate playing scum, so you are never not going to do that if scum.

Where are all of the readslists and sorting that you did in your towngames?

It’s been primarily me in the main thread trying to figure out the game.

[Loki Dokie]

can you say who you think or know it is in the QT?

It’s a player in Menagerie.

[Hopkirk]

1- it's not a case, it's refuting that it's outside of that player's range. literally nothing i can say if idk who it is which is why secret alts can be dumb
2- i think i'd be the worst player to kill, otherwise i can see other as being a similar level of bad for Emily
3- can you rephrase?
4 - not sure what you mean. i've only gotten annoyed with Bug's play. don't think that's likely to come from scum me
5 - a lot of stuff felt a lot more obvious here. i think i have a lot more solving in team mafia than most towngames. my effort is going to be based on whether i think i need to effort and most of the votes seemed like no brainers
6 - i think i've been trying to figure things out and did, but was just wrong on some of them

[Loki Dokie]

I probably won’t be responding much in here anymore. I’m sure you understand why.

[Loki Dokie]

So, I strongly encourage to make the remainder of your cases in the main thread. I won’t be responding to anything in here that’s specifically game related.

[Loki Dokie]

I probably won’t be responding much in here anymore. I’m sure you understand why.

So, I strongly encourage to make the remainder of your cases in the main thread. I won’t be responding to anything in here that’s specifically game related.

I mixed up this thread for the hood again.

[Hopkirk]

the only thing i'm posting in the hood is related to secret-alt-identity

[Hopkirk]

everything else i've posted in here too right?

[Loki Dokie]

everything else i've posted in here too right?

Yes, my mistake.