Micro 1016 | Newbie Game But Not Really | Town wins

[Korina]

Multiple people have said we should massclaim but I fail to see how that is helpful on D1. This could be my naivety with what defines bastard, but I don't have a solid reason to believe this game is bastard.

I don't want to play "guess the liar" D2 when scum has made the kill they need.

Korina, you have

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players in your PoE. Present a thought on why each other player in the PoE aside from Vax needs pressure.

Subject: Micro Queue (Players and Mods)

Is it possible your game has any mechanically bastard roles or mechanics?

Yes

Is it possible your game has any procedurally bastard dynamics?

Yes

Description:

This is a bastardized Newbie Game. As such, this game is extremely bastard. Balance and a game that's actually mafia are both not explicitly guaranteed.

I highly recommend not signing up to this if you're actually a newbie.

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This game is bastard plain and simple.

[Korina]

Additionally, we all know that our actual roles are different from what we're told, so having all that information out on day one would help us solve the game from there. I die tonight because I'm confirmed town, so nobody has any reason to fear from being killed tonight, unless I'm heavily pocketed by scum, and the team is literally just {Luke, NM}.

Additionally, the reason why everyone else should have pressure applied is because none of y'all—including you—have done nothing memorable thus far. Give thoughts on the last seven pages, will you?

[Free Money Free Tea]

Claim was a joke.

[Korina]

Is that all you have to say?

[Vaxkiller]

Fake cop is worried...

[Pickles]

I’m just waking up and it’s very hot outside.
Skimmed the new content though.
FMFT seemed to be in meme mode during claim.
So I’m not surprised it’s redacted.
Vax, I assure you, host explicitly said it’s bastard.

Now I gotta die for a few odd hours until dark.
Then I’ll be back.

[Cupcake Butterfly]

Oh

... Thanks for the quote, Korina.

My thoughts? Not much I feel the need to say.

There are only 3 situations ever where I've seen scum out-of-the-gate go into mechanical solve as well as dominate the thread with their own PoE as if it were stream of consciousness, and did so successfully. Korina does not fit either scenario or vibe like a piece in a puzzle would. So I'm feeling good about them.

I agreed with criticism on Vax but I will need to reread the past pages now that I'm more informed about the setup. I like their vote on me.

I have to leave, but I will return with more thoughts if asked politely, and with the appropriate Cupcake Butterfly GIF attached to it.

[Korina]

Fake cop is worried...

What do you mean by this?

Oh

... Thanks for the quote, Korina.

My thoughts? Not much I feel the need to say.

There are only 3 situations ever where I've seen scum out-of-the-gate go into mechanical solve as well as dominate the thread with their own PoE as if it were stream of consciousness, and did so successfully. Korina does not fit either scenario or vibe like a piece in a puzzle would. So I'm feeling good about them.

I agreed with criticism on Vax but I will need to reread the past pages now that I'm more informed about the setup. I like their vote on me.

I have to leave, but I will return with more thoughts if asked politely, and with the appropriate Cupcake Butterfly GIF attached to it.

Any thoughts on the rest of the players in the game? On anything that has transpired thus far?

[Korina]

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea

I do not like the fact you posted solely to say your claim was a joke, when there was another thing we asked you about. So, I shall ask you again: Why is your vote on Lukewarm in Post #37 serious?

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We are also going to try to compose our thoughts a little bit more instead of spam posting.

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I feel that we can give Vax a pass for now, since they claimed Cop, and seem to be intent on producing content. They feel like they could be scummy town.

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I will also ask this once again of everyone:

@everyone, what is your opinion on starting a mass-claim now?

[Korina]

@mod can you confirm that there is at least one player with a non-town win-condition, and provide a sample vanilla role PM for both town and mafia?

[Lukewarm]

So, I am not sure what to think about FMFT.

Because if he is T3, then I am not as concerned by his short posts, like 177. But T3's post (that have since been deleted) seemed like they were basically saying that his claim in FMFT's claim in post 40 was a serious claim. I wish the mod did not delete them, because now there are some people who saw them and some people who didn't, so we are working with different sets of info

[Korina]

@Vax, if we start mass-claim now, who do you want to claim after you?

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@FMFT - can you confirm that you are not an alt of T3?

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@Luke - I think we just move on with the day. While you are here, do you mind saying what your thoughts on a mass-claim is?

[Korina]

Move on with the day meaning we just dismiss the entire thing with T3, unless the two accounts are related.

[Lukewarm]

@Luke - I think we just move on with the day. While you are here, do you mind saying what your thoughts on a mass-claim is?

I am not sure how much it would help. I have never played a bastard game, but in normal games mass claiming is generally pretty bad.

If you think that it would help, I guess I am not totally against it, but I am not clear on the benefits.

So ambivalent I guess

[Free Money Free Tea]

eh rip this alt anyways,

It actually wasn't an altslip, I clicked on the wrong tab but yes, I am my alt.

[Vaxkiller]

I want Free Money tea to claim

[Free Money Free Tea]

I'm vt :/

[Vaxkiller]

shit i meant cupcake

[Vaxkiller]

no way there are vt's in this game tho

[Vaxkiller]

Maybe you will die and come abck as a zombie or something.

[Free Money Free Tea]

I noticed something about my role pm. My role is called a "vanilla" townie as opposed to just a vanilla townie.
Hm.

[Free Money Free Tea]

to clarify. I am t3. That actually wasn't an altslip, I clicked on the wrong tab. Because I'm being asked I'm claiming my main.

[Korina]

I'm actually fine with mass-claiming since I've thought about it. The entire setup is basically just gonna be figure out what the roles do, so coordinating actions would play a big factor into solving IMO.
The only drawback is that scum knows exactly what they're up against, but the benefits to it seemingly outweigh the cons at this point.
I die tonight regardless, either due to a doctor actually being CPR doctor and killing me, or scum just strongman killing me, or whatever

@FMFT, pick someone else to claim. I want whoever claimed last to pick the next person to claim, preferably who you think is scum. I want to leave Luke/NM for last in all honesty as well.

[Korina]

Basically, what we got to when we thought about starting mass-claim:

Pros of mass-claiming today:
- Scum are locked into a claim for the rest of the game.
- More information for the town.
- Can solve actual roles.

Cons of mass-claiming today:
- Scum know the entire setup.

[Korina]

Also, why was your vote on Luke serious? You keep not answering this.