Mini Normal 2214 || Game Over!

[Dwlee99]

I'm inclined to believe all power roles so let's hear the guilty. Please no hasty votes as I want to explain a strategy anyway once the guilty comes out.

if you are town and all of the power roles are truthful the mafia is exactly {sigmund, nero cain, vfp}

I mean, this seems believable but also weird balance-wise so idk.

[T3]

Just look at me johnny interactions from earlier.

[Dwlee99]

Okay so what was happening with the whole "NaHA is probably town but we can't know yet?"

[shiki]

i could also ask t3 what were his intentions with the fake hammer? and did he not find it pauseworthy that minimegabyte also claimed a macho role? but does it really make any sense for them not to be truthful here

like

7 vanilla town
1 macho rolestopper
1 novice macho cop
2 mafia
1 mafia that gets rolestopped i guess?

doesn't actually make sense, does it?

[VFP]

Just look at me johnny interactions from earlier.

I don't see anything other than you saying about on going games?
What am I looking for?

So when I was a Mason with T3, I made it clear some sort of crumb is best and we did this.
T3 also kept a read on me (as I did back). It was a town read that changed into distancing, but there was posting to and about each other.

[Rae]

the macho masons are worthless utility but the good news my guilty is elsewhere.

VOTE: VFP

[shiki]

i could also ask t3 what were his intentions with the fake hammer? and did he not find it pauseworthy that minimegabyte also claimed a macho role? but does it really make any sense for them not to be truthful here

like

7 vanilla town
1 macho rolestopper
1 novice macho cop
2 mafia
1 mafia that gets rolestopped i guess?

doesn't actually make sense, does it?

actually wait rolestopper just functions like a protective, right, that also stops investigations, hm

[VFP]

I assume anya is claiming odd night doc....

qJohnny is town.

Maybe.

[Rae]

hectic must've malded themselves out of the game.

[VFP]

the macho masons are worthless utility but the good news my guilty is elsewhere.

VOTE: VFP

So I'm guessing you are just a traitor.

[Dwlee99]

I think we no lim here but be back in a little

[VFP]

"rolestopper"
as town?
See oska in mini normal 2211. VOTE: mini
Nah.

So with this game it was discussed about the difference with Rolestopper and doc, so this is plausible.

[Rae]

they don't kill me here regardless. they likely have a roleblocker.

[VFP]

I think we no lim here but be back in a little

Isn't someone highly town read here?
What changes on a no kill either?

[VFP]

Scum wouldn't have a role blocker with 4x macho so let's not pretend that this is a thing from your PoV.

[Rae]

sure let's not pretend you're caught. they probably have something to counteract me and roleblocker is my base assumption.

[VFP]

So Rae is confirmed scum (or me, sure).
But as I said it's probably traitor here.

There's also confirmed scum in Rae and the Mason claim at the very least.
Masons having 2 docs regardless if macho is extremely strong.
A role stopper and a cop is not only over whelming for scum to hit right, but this is a lot of town power in a 12p.
Although I suspect a role cop over a roleblocker (since the masons can target the same player) scum would need to be heavily equipped to counter this. I'm not sure what works here with 4 macho claims.
Not to mention a standard rolestopper claim in a mass claim means that the cop gets 3 results unless killed. That makes the roleblocker redundant alone.

[Rae]

i guess macho doctor masons work so they can't just doc each other. it's pretty powerful to have two doctors running around but i still believe it. usually if a cop exists there is something to protect it, the rolestopper more or less fucks with me but im not sure what priority would be if a rolestopper went on a roleblocker.

[Rae]

cop gets 3 results unless killed. That makes the roleblocker redundant alone.

*bbzzzztt* wrong again im novice.

[shiki]

Not to mention a standard rolestopper claim in a mass claim means that the cop gets 3 results unless killed. That makes the roleblocker redundant alone.

well it's a macho novice cop so can't check day one and can't be protected by rolestopper or doctor

[Dwlee99]

Rolestopper implies roleblocker imo. Rolestopper can protect PRs from the roleblock.

[VFP]

So the masons are probably real.
Rolestopper to prevent a rolecop plus protect.

Scum team of 2 with a role cop and just a traitor.
Probably informed somewhere about macho is the game or x machos.

That leaves 2 scum in
Sigmund
shiki
Dwlee
Nero

I'll look at these.

[Rae]

now that the guilty is out i am gonna go read hectic. i was gonna check monkey but then decided i didn't really have a read on hectic and it's almost better to use your investigative that way.

[VFP]

Rolestopper implies roleblocker imo. Rolestopper can protect PRs from the roleblock.

Nah its going to more likely be role cop than roleblocker.
Roleblock doesn't stop the masons for protecting a non macho if they want to stop it.

[Rae]

off the brain does anyone think hectic/sigmund could be theater? that was my immediate thought. i feel like trying now because i wanna secure the dub. you fuckers have awakened the sleeping giant.